On Wed, 8 Mar 2006, Daniel Stenberg stipulated:
On Wed, 8 Mar 2006, gl wrote:
After Linus was about to commit one of my patches, it turns out the project
leaders are not willing to accept contributions under
a pseudonym. This may be normal in the GPL world, but for someone from the
On Wed, 15 Mar 2006, Bluechip wrote:
http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/pub/Main/DataSheets/mas35x9f_2ds.pdf
No part of this publication may be reproduced, photocopied, stored on a
retrieval system, or transmitted without the express written consent of
Micronas GmbH.
Then this should be removed.
Errm, or ask for permission?
express written consent of Micronas GmbH.
Daniel Stenberg wrote:
On Wed, 15 Mar 2006, Bluechip wrote:
http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/pub/Main/DataSheets/mas35x9f_2ds.pdf
No part of this publication may be reproduced, photocopied, stored on
a retrieval system, or
On Wed, 15 Mar 2006, Bluechip wrote:
How exactly is it unlicenced?
http://www.mp3licensing.com/royalty/
Björn pointed this out. You refused to respond (to that too).
they haven't sued anyone yet
Then The Rockbox-Three are probably safe then :)
Why would anyone sue one of us even if
How exactly is it unlicenced?
http://www.mp3licensing.com/royalty/
Björn pointed this out. You refused to respond (to that too).
Well, first off, I have already apologised for
not reading the full thread-to-date before I replied.
The above was in reply to a post made BEFORE Bjorn's
We are clear and that has not changed. We haven't been made aware of
any trademark infringements to my knowledge. Now when you've brought
it up and I checked around I can only _assume_ that you are talking
about our use of the name 'Bejeweled'. Is that so, or can you please
clarify? You
Bluechip, as far as I see, you're wasting your time here.You clearly stand nothing to gain, as you have made it completely clear that you aren't going to reveal your real name, and the rockbox team have made it just as clear that this is a requirement for the acceptance of your code.
The only
They have. Which questions do you think aren't answered?
How about the legalitites of including an unlicensed MP3 codec?
How exactly is it unlicenced?
http://www.mp3licensing.com/royalty/
they haven't sued anyone yet
Then The Rockbox-Three are probably safe then :)
Or the legal
I started this thread, let me try to close it.
Almost everybody who replied to it found at least some aspect of the 'no
anonymous contributions' policy undesireable or flawed - yet the leads
aren't even responding to the points and questions raised. So basically
it's 'take it or leave it'
I won't pretend to hold any influence in this project, but from my
experience, an email address is more 'real' online than a name. As
people have said, a name can be faked. An email address is
functional, and so, is much more likely to be accurate.
...and should there be
I honestly have a very hard time agreeing with either side in this discussion.So here are a few of my views:I believe that the Rockbox project can, as it wants, demand a 'real' identity for its submitters. I don't really see a problem with that. They want a submission from a name attached to a
I honestly have a very hard time agreeing with either side in this
discussion.
I'm suprised to hear you say that, because I completely agree with
everything you've said.
--
gl
Honestly, to me, it's entirely their choice what conditions they want to put on whether or not someone's code can be committed.The *only* problem I have with all of this is that it wasn't already in the CONTRIBUTING document. Apparently it's been discussed in the past, but I either wasn't on the
On Fri, 10 Mar 2006, Paul Louden wrote:
Very wise word written!
So, my perspective is that they should be allowed the identify of their
choice as long as the chosen name is not in some way intentionally (or even
hopefully accidentally) offensive to others, and that they're willing to
stand
Maybe an easy way to come out of this endless discussion is the
following solution:
- Ask the rockbox founders to change the policy to We only give cvs
write access to people with real names, and an e-mail address we can
verify.
- And: Everybody is responsible for what he or she commits to CVS.
-
Neon John wrote:
When one spends months in daily contact
with lawyers one tends to get a good education on the subject matter
at hand.
OK, you can go back to playing internet.lawyer now.
Sorry, perhaps I shouldn't have asked you to support the legal advice
that you've dispensed here, but
On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 12:23:41 -0500, Michael E. DiFebbo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Neon John wrote:
When one spends months in daily contact
with lawyers one tends to get a good education on the subject matter
at hand.
OK, you can go back to playing internet.lawyer now.
Sorry, perhaps I
It's not a matter of disrespect.
It's a matter of opining.
If nobody ever discussed anything,
If nobody ever stood up for what they believed in,
Nothing would ever change.
It takes a strong man to know he's wrong,
It takes a stronger man to admit it.
I would like to think we have strong leaders.
Subject: Re: Signing off.
gl wrote:
After Linus was about to commit one of my patches, it turns out the
project leaders are not willing to accept contributions under a
pseudonym. This may be normal in the GPL world, but for someone from the
Windows / BSD license world, this seems utterly
Hi,
Interesting discussion.
For clarity, is there an official policy on contributors and what is to
be accepted into the project's sources? I haven't seen one so far.
Until there is an official policy that has some legal weight (presumably
with some kind of agreement that must be entered
there is an official policy.. thats whats being argued about.. and it
doesnt need legal backing at all... like you rightly ssay, its someone
elses ball. if they dont want other ppl to play its their choice
On 09/03/06, Cam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
Interesting discussion.
For clarity, is
Jonathan
there is an official policy.. thats whats being argued about.. and it
doesnt need legal backing at all... like you rightly ssay, its someone
elses ball. if they dont want other ppl to play its their choice
If there's a policy, let's see it, let the policy makers defend their
Cam wrote:
For clarity, is there an official policy on contributors and what is to
be accepted into the project's sources? I haven't seen one so far.
Yes there is a policy. Part of it is written down in the docs/CONTRIBUTING
document in CVS. Part of it is not written down anywhere, and says
On Wed, 08 Mar 2006 20:01:25 +0100, Tomas Salfischberger
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
Neon John wrote:
Even though I use my real name in places like this I don't think I'd want it
plastered all over the net in software.
Maybe I don't understand the privacy in software madness, but your
Neon John wrote:
I have a number of reasons why I don't want my real name associated
with software. The major one being that since I live in the Lawyer's
Paradise, I don't want the risk of some prick not liking the way my
code works and coming back years later and suing me. Yes, I know the
Ray
They don't have to explain their choices to anyone and you're in no
position to demand that they do. They have no obligation to you or
anyone here. This is their choice to make and they've made their
decision. A little respect shown towards their wishes now goes a long
way...
I look
On Fri, 2006-03-10 at 00:03 +, gl wrote:
Bjorn, what about the point that Rockbox is most likely 'real software,
written by real people with many fake names'? If you cannot enforce the
accuracy of a given name, then why try?
It's a form of social trust (or due diligence, if you like
you ppl are forgetting that the project is based in sweden.. so us law
means sweet F*ck all..
also, doesnt sweden have like the worlds best copyright laws? (i.e
bassically none?)
On 10/03/06, Michael E. DiFebbo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Neon John wrote:
But I repeat, this is all an irrelevant
Jonathan Gordon wrote:
you ppl are forgetting that the project is based in sweden.. so us law
means sweet F*ck all..
also, doesnt sweden have like the worlds best copyright laws? (i.e
bassically none?)
But (1) there are Rockbox contributors who are located in the U.S. and
therefore subject
quality contributions to survive.
So, as the decision is apparently final I'm signing off. I guess my various
patches and WPS will either remain private, or will be released
independently at some point. Although if they're not going to get to CVS, I
don't really see the point.
I think you
quality contributions to survive.
So, as the decision is apparently final I'm signing off. I guess my
various patches and WPS will either remain private, or will be
released independently at some point. Although if they're not going
to get to CVS, I don't really see the point.
I think you guys
On Wed, 8 Mar 2006, gl wrote:
After Linus was about to commit one of my patches, it turns out the project
leaders are not willing to accept contributions under a pseudonym. This may
be normal in the GPL world, but for someone from the Windows / BSD license
world, this seems utterly bizarre.
Hi,
Neon John wrote:
Even though I use my real name in places like this I don't think I'd want it
plastered all over the net in software.
Maybe I don't understand the privacy in software madness, but your
name has been recorded all over the rockbox mailinglist archives. Those
archives are
On Wed, 2006-03-08 at 13:33 -0500, Neon John wrote:
Unfortunately you're not the first developer run off by this petty
power ploy. I certainly hate to see it but there is little I can do
as a user other than express my displeasure.
If you care about this issue so strongly, I think the most
for a project that
requires quality contributions to survive.
So, as the decision is apparently final I'm signing off. I guess my
various patches and WPS will either remain private, or will be released
independently at some point. Although if they're not going to get to
CVS, I don't really see
sigh
What a shame.
Guys, what about this In reflection we cannot afford to lose good
coders. The problems between us and BC run deeper than anything that
was published online. Let's face it, we simply clash at some
undefinable core level. The rule put in place at the moment of that
crash
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