Re: should rsync also be called ssync?

2001-03-01 Thread tim . conway
D] 303.682.4917 Philips Semiconductor - Colorado TC 1880 Industrial Circle Suite D Longmont, CO 80501 [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 03/01/2001 02:56:02 PM To: Tim Conway/LMT/SC/PHILIPS@AMEC cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]@SMTP Subject: Re: should rsync also be called ssync? Classification: On Thu, Mar

Re: should rsync also be called ssync?

2001-03-01 Thread Dave Dykstra
On Thu, Mar 01, 2001 at 01:54:04PM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > We're having a debate in which some are advocating changing a > long-established and respected utility name, with the sole purpose of > placating ignorant, inflexible-minded fools. Did anybody notice this? Not changing. Just a

Re: should rsync also be called ssync?

2001-03-01 Thread tim . conway
We're having a debate in which some are advocating changing a long-established and respected utility name, with the sole purpose of placating ignorant, inflexible-minded fools. Did anybody notice this? Tim Conway [EMAIL PROTECTED] 303.682.4917 Philips Semiconductor - Colorado TC 1880 Industria

Re: should rsync also be called ssync?

2001-03-01 Thread Dave Dykstra
On Thu, Mar 01, 2001 at 06:31:49PM +1100, Andrew Tridgell wrote: > > It would also ease confusion as everybody begins to think "r* means > > bad security". > > I think this argument is a little weak. There are 143 commands > starting with r on my system. Only 2 or 3 of them suffer from the rsh >

Re: should rsync also be called ssync?

2001-02-28 Thread Andrew Tridgell
> It would also ease confusion as everybody begins to think "r* means > bad security". I think this argument is a little weak. There are 143 commands starting with r on my system. Only 2 or 3 of them suffer from the rsh style security problems. I don't think anyone is going to abandon rm and rou

Re: should rsync also be called ssync?

2001-02-28 Thread Martin Pool
On 28 Feb 2001, Dave Dykstra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That's very much not the case around here yet. Most people use only the > intranet and are just starting to get aquainted with ssh because of a > push by corporate security. It's going to take quite a while before > people to transition

Re: should rsync also be called ssync?

2001-02-28 Thread Dave Dykstra
On Wed, Feb 28, 2001 at 11:04:56AM +1100, Martin Pool wrote: > > Dave Dykstra wrote: > > >How does everybody (especially Martin and Tridge) feel about the idea of > > >rsync defaulting to "-e ssh" if it is invoked under the name ssync? Around > > >here everybody is being told they should stop usi

Re: should rsync also be called ssync?

2001-02-28 Thread Philip Hands
Martin Pool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If Debian (say) changed the default to be ssh, then they'll break > scripts by anybody still using rsh. (On the other hand, people > shouldn't be doing that.) Conversely, if standard builds don't change > the default, then there's not nearly so much poi

rsync should use ssh by default (was Re: should rsync also be called ssync?)

2001-02-27 Thread Martin Pool
> On the whole, I think the time when people should be using rsh is long > past, and it's about time to add a --with-default-rsh=[ssh] option to > configure. This is my idea of the patch. Note that this would make ssh the default for 2.4.7, unless you specify otherwise at configure or run time.

Re: should rsync also be called ssync?

2001-02-27 Thread Martin Pool
(cc'd to Phil Hands as the Debian package maintainer and so presumably somebody who worries about compatibility/integration issues.) On 16 Feb 2001, Michael James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >How does everybody (especially Martin and Tridge) feel about the idea of > >rsync defaulting to "-e ssh"

Re: should rsync also be called ssync?

2001-02-16 Thread Dave Dykstra
On Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 10:38:19AM +1100, Andrew Tridgell wrote: > I actually like the name rsync :) > > I'd be very happy with a configure option that sets the default remote > shell, and I don't mind a argv[0] check that knows about the name > ssync, but I'd prefer for the package to still be c

Re: should rsync also be called ssync?

2001-02-16 Thread Ashwin Mansinghka
The potential problem is the ssh binry location still differs from one unix variant to another and also depends on the compilation time flags. Unlike rsh which over the time has found a standard location, "ssh" still needs finds place in many places. Then again by default ssh has to be used with

Re: should rsync also be called ssync?

2001-02-15 Thread Michael James
>How does everybody (especially Martin and Tridge) feel about the idea of >rsync defaulting to "-e ssh" if it is invoked under the name ssync? Around >here everybody is being told they should stop using r* commands and start >using the s* equivalents so it seems a natural changeover. If there is

Re: should rsync also be called ssync?

2001-02-15 Thread Andrew Tridgell
I actually like the name rsync :) I'd be very happy with a configure option that sets the default remote shell, and I don't mind a argv[0] check that knows about the name ssync, but I'd prefer for the package to still be called "rsync" as I think the name is well enough known that a change at thi

Re: should rsync also be called ssync?

2001-02-15 Thread Robert Scholten
Good idea - I'm in favour, although it'll take me a year or two to stop calling it rsync. On Thu, 15 Feb 2001, Dave Dykstra wrote: > How does everybody (especially Martin and Tridge) feel about the idea of > rsync defaulting to "-e ssh" if it is invoked under the name ssync? Around > here every

should rsync also be called ssync?

2001-02-15 Thread Dave Dykstra
How does everybody (especially Martin and Tridge) feel about the idea of rsync defaulting to "-e ssh" if it is invoked under the name ssync? Around here everybody is being told they should stop using r* commands and start using the s* equivalents so it seems a natural changeover. If there is gen