No, it doesn't necessarily need more actions.
Changing the product's price? that's an update
Changing its on-hand quantity? That's an update
Changing it's availability? That's an update.
You may opt to have two controllers for your products... one for the public
pages where the products are
Persist that information to some other storage engine on your server, per
user. The database is the first place I'd think of. Using database sessions
removes the session limit.
However, look into Memcached, MongoDB, CouchDB, and other options. They're
pretty cool.
Also, maybe have someone else
Thanks for the link Zt Di.
@selected_state = state_id.to_i works.
This is because state_id = params[:state][:state_id] returns a string.
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I am trying to implement a fairly simple REST controller which I am
then interfacing with ActiveResource. The problem I am having is when
the validation fails, the errors are not being returned to the model
on the ActiveResource style in a way I can access.
I am running Rails 2.3.4
Hi everyone,
I'm new to rails, and I've got my application up and running. Now I'd
like to add a function that I haven't been able to find information
on.
Basically, I start with a form that asks the user to input the number
of widgets of some type they have.
For example ( is a
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Hello
I have a problem accessing remote git repository located
on Linux machine in my local network.
I performed the following steps:
- firstly setup the remote repository on my Linux machine:
$ mkdir /root/projects/test/.git
$ cd /root/projects/test/.git
$ git init —bare
Initialized empty
When I told some web developer friends that I was going to try to
learn Rails while taking a year off before college (when I would have
very little internet), they were a little concerned, saying that it
was almost essential to get advice from more experienced developers to
really understand the
I'm making some changes on Redmine Project on my local, I need to
alter appearance, so I changed application.css, then I realized that I
need changes in only some views, so let application.css to be same,
but I copy my modified version to applicationNewIssueForm.css and I
added
%=
SciTE is a wonderful ide, unfortunately it does not take well to input
in its output panel. While the output panel can handle plenty of shell
commands, in general it was not implemented in SciTE to handle many
input situations, not just the ones that ruby presents.
After spending many cumulative
On Oct 1, 6:27 am, Greg King rails-mailing-l...@andreas-s.net wrote:
I'm rails a newbie:
I have a form setup where users selects datetime, the datetime serves
the purpose of allowing the user to specify when the entry expires. In
efforts to filter entrys that have an earlier datetime than
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 11:45, Shaun Pearl
rails-mailing-l...@andreas-s.net wrote:
Thanks :) The link is greatly appreciated! But I was hoping for a
solution from within rails really, mainly for my learning purposes, I
apprecaite doing it that way isn't really going to cause any harm, but
2009/10/1 Robert Walker rails-mailing-l...@andreas-s.net:
Mauricio Szabo wrote:
But if you require 'open-uri':
require 'open-uri'
= true
open(http://example.com/;).read
= HTML\r\nHEAD\r\n TITLEExample Web Page/TITLE\r\n/HEAD \r
\nbody \r\npYou have reached this web page by
2009/9/30 Zak Strassberg moomoothe...@gmail.com:
When I told some web developer friends that I was going to try to
learn Rails while taking a year off before college (when I would have
very little internet), they were a little concerned, saying that it
was almost essential to get advice from
Hi All...
Is any one have ever used communityengine plugin?
If yes than tell me the best site that provides the complete information
about implementing the same...
Thanks all..
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I would need to be able to upload images to an external URL
I know S3 is an option but there are better image hosts out there for my
requirements and one in particular I would like to make use of.
I'm thinking that I could use asset_host to determine the url and path
but I can't seem to make
Hi,
What's the correct way of writing a form?
I do the following:
%= form_for ... %
p
%= f.label :whatever %
%= f.text_field :whatever %
/p
%- end -%
Then I do some CSS to have all the labels aligned, and all the input
fields aligned. The problem happens when a field is not valid, Rails
Brian Hogan wrote:
Hope that helps some.
It does. Thanks :-)
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Ok I found a fix: put that in an initializer:
ActionView::Base.field_error_proc = Proc.new do |html_tag, instance|
span class=\fieldWithErrors\#{html_tag}/span
end
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I am experiencing a very painful problem. When I upload a file to my
rails app which uses paperclip, using Safari, the upload fails with a
the server unexpectedly dropped the connection error. Using FF it
works perfectly well.
What's going on? Am I the only seeing that weird behavior? How to
Hi
You have to understand any ajax fashioned link One example
link_to_remote
http://api.rubyonrails.org/classes/ActionView/Helpers/PrototypeHelper.html#M001645
read it..Now also have a look at
insert_html
On 01 Oct 2009, at 11:45, Fernando Perez wrote:
I am experiencing a very painful problem. When I upload a file to my
rails app which uses paperclip, using Safari, the upload fails with a
the server unexpectedly dropped the connection error. Using FF it
works perfectly well.
What's going
hi everybody,
I have a rails application and i want to use amchart, step by step,
extracting data from my postgres database..
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corrected since. Did the problem come back? Is it another bug in Ruby?
I run: ruby 1.8.7 (2008-08-11 patchlevel 72)
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I've got 2 different servers, list of gems,version of ruby are the same,
difference only in unit test execution process on one server all works
fine but on the other i have such kind of error (whire running unit
tests)
NoMethodError: undefined method `use_ssl' for #Net::HTTP **net:80
Hi All:
I need to upgrade my ROR application and in the maintenance period i
want all the pages(actions) to redirect to a maintenance(html) page.
I tried several options in .htaccess but it looks as if .htaccess is not
even getting used.
Any help will be highly appreciated.
TIA,
Priya Saini
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On Oct 1, 6:27�am, Greg King rails-mailing-l...@andreas-s.net wrote:
I'm rails a newbie:
I have a form setup where users selects datetime, the datetime serves
the purpose of allowing the user to specify when the entry expires. �In
efforts to filter entrys that have
Aaron Broad wrote:
Super improved:
require 'date'
require 'rubygems'
require 'active_record'
module RubyToJadeXML
def jadexml
self.strftime(fmt='%FT%T.000')
end
end
DateTime.class_eval do
include RubyToJadeXML
end
You don't need class_eval to reopen a class. Just use
Fernando Perez wrote:
Hi,
What's the correct way of writing a form?
I do the following:
%= form_for ... %
p
%= f.label :whatever %
%= f.text_field :whatever %
/p
%- end -%
Then I do some CSS to have all the labels aligned, and all the input
fields aligned. The problem
ryan8720 wrote:
Hi everyone,
I'm new to rails, and I've got my application up and running. Now I'd
like to add a function that I haven't been able to find information
on.
Basically, I start with a form that asks the user to input the number
of widgets of some type they have.
For
Is ROR a good fit if I want to edit and expand on a developed script
like RoundCube( http://roundcube.net/ )? I'm planing to edit it for my
business as an order/transcript application.
If anyone is interested this link is what I want to make.
http://handoff.wordpress.com/
Hi
How to extract the youtube videos based on the key to
the web page using ruby.So that what are the steps i have to
take attaching videos to web page.
Regards
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Sonix wrote:
Is ROR a good fit if I want to edit and expand on a developed script
like RoundCube( http://roundcube.net/ )? I'm planing to edit it for my
business as an order/transcript application.
RoundCube is written in PHP, not Ruby. You could certainly write
something equivalent in
Hi,
In order to customize my app in a web admin page, I'd like to create an
@application object that will be fetched from DB and hold various
customization values, it will be fetched for each request.
I'd like to add some files using that web admin and paperclip. Adding
4-5 has_attached_file
If that's ruining your design, then your CSS has problems.
Nope. It is extremely common, to see forms created with p tags to
separate each input. A div inside a p tag is not allowed by html
standards, look for the internet, plenty people have this div problem.
But you are right with tables,
Fernando Perez wrote:
If that's ruining your design, then your CSS has problems.
Nope.
Yup.
It is extremely common, to see forms created with p tags to
separate each input. A div inside a p tag is not allowed by html
standards, look for the internet, plenty people have this div
Hi,
On Wed, 2009-09-30 at 23:15 -0700, metdos wrote:
so let application.css to be same, but I copy my modified version
to applicationNewIssueForm.css and I added
%= stylesheet_link_tag applicationNewIssueForm %
to views which I want to change.
Unfortunately appearance of my views are not
I understand that the default Rails routing matches URLs with the
form:
/controller/action/id.format
Default values exist for each of the parts to the right of the
controller. I also understand that the default format is html. So,
for example, the URL:
/blog/read/23
would route a request to
I just started Agile last night, and it seems good. Head First Rails
was really good in getting me interested and not overwhelming me. Does
Agile cover details about tests? I don't really understand how they
work/how you build them, etc, and I can't look them up...
On Oct 1, 3:30 am, Colin Law
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 4:58 PM, doug ddjol...@gmail.com wrote:
I understand that the default Rails routing matches URLs with the
form:
/controller/action/id.format
Have you read this?
http://guides.rubyonrails.org/routing.html
Default values exist for each of the parts to the right of
Zak Strassberg wrote:
I just started Agile last night, and it seems good. Head First Rails
was really good in getting me interested and not overwhelming me. Does
Agile cover details about tests? I don't really understand how they
work/how you build them, etc, and I can't look them up...
On Oct 1, 10:13 am, Zak Strassberg moomoothe...@gmail.com wrote:
I just started Agile last night, and it seems good. Head First Rails
was really good in getting me interested and not overwhelming me. Does
Agile cover details about tests? I don't really understand how they
work/how you build
Model.find(:all, :conditions = {:time_field = (from..to)})
On Sep 30, 7:02 am, Newb Newb rails-mailing-l...@andreas-s.net
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Colin Law wrote:
2009/9/30 Brijesh Shah rails-mailing-l...@andreas-s.net:
Hi Colin
Conversion is required because passing value is string not datetime ...
On Oct 1, 2009, at 8:28 AM, Marnen Laibow-Koser wrote:
Aaron Broad wrote:
Super improved:
require 'date'
require 'rubygems'
require 'active_record'
module RubyToJadeXML
def jadexml
self.strftime(fmt='%FT%T.000')
end
end
DateTime.class_eval do
include RubyToJadeXML
end
You
Rob Biedenharn wrote:
On Oct 1, 2009, at 8:28 AM, Marnen Laibow-Koser wrote:
end
end
DateTime.class_eval do
include RubyToJadeXML
end
You don't need class_eval to reopen a class. Just use class
DateTime,
same as if you were defining from scratch.
Yes, the effect is the same.
Hi all...
The linux box I am working on I do not have root access to, and given I
am at a government site all hope of that is lost.
I have installed the mysql gem as follows:
env ARCHFLAGS=-arch x86_64 gem install mysql --
Hi Emmek,
I never found anything really convincing to handle that, but facing the
same problem I found some workaround.
So first to get a slug, I use the plugin ActsAsUrlParam
http://github.com/caring/acts_as_url_param
I use it on a page model that uses a custom acts_as_tree (with dotted
Emmek on Rails wrote:
I have a model Page in my application that acts_as_tree. I want this
model to keep whole structure of website.
Then I would strongly suggest awesome_nested_set instead of
acts_as_tree. It makes it possible to use the DB *much* more
efficiently.
I have some root
Hello
I have a strange problem with this code:
%unless (@students.empty? and params[:commit].nil?) %
%=test%
%= render :partial = 'results' %
% end %
Even though in some cases @students.empty? returns false and params
[:commit].nil? returns true (or the opposite), it displays the test
and
Marnen Laibow-Koser wrote:
Emmek on Rails wrote:
I have a model Page in my application that acts_as_tree. I want this
model to keep whole structure of website.
Then I would strongly suggest awesome_nested_set instead of
acts_as_tree. It makes it possible to use the DB *much* more
That error looks more like a mysql gem and ruby 1.9 compatibility
issue.
Have a look at this site http://isitruby19.com/mysql that talks about
issues with Ruby 1.9
On Oct 1, 9:41 am, Cris Shupp rails-mailing-l...@andreas-s.net
wrote:
Hi all...
The linux box I am working on I do not have root
On Oct 1, 6:00 pm, Yiannis istoseli...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello
I have a strange problem with this code:
%unless (@students.empty? and params[:commit].nil?) %
%=test%
%= render :partial = 'results' %
% end %
[snip]
The only way it worked was this:
% unless @students.empty? %
%
Hi
I am new to this group, i heard that this is a dedicated group with
java script experts.
if this is true then i want to be part of this.
Please make me your friend.
-Satya
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How do you manage that? IE 5, 6 and 7 don't support the table
element :P. If I had my choice, I'd use them too, but until IE 6 and 7
finally die... I can't do it!
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Fernando Perez wrote:
Hi,
What's the correct
Thank you for the clarification!
On Sep 29, 4:52 pm, Greg Donald gdon...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 3:41 PM,kitty00yanl...@gmail.com wrote:
I don't know if Debian is better or CentOS is better.
99% of the software you find inside will be the same. Every Linux
distro uses the
Thank you for the suggestion!
I do prefer Debian as a server.
On Sep 30, 3:05 am, Leonardo Mateo leonardoma...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 10:41 PM,kitty00yanl...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
I am trying to decide which Linux OS to use to implement rails server.
I don't know if
Change it to || (or).
Try this in IRB:
puts Render unless(true false) # Prints Render
puts Render unless(true || false) # Does not print
puts Render unless(false || true) # Does not print
puts Render unless(true || true) # Does not print
puts Render unless(false || false) # Prints render
Hi, I have a game that I need to make a small backend game management
server so that gamers can play against each other.
My game is turn based and very little data goes across only 2 players
per game but many games can be going on at once. Kind of like chess
rooms. As you can imagine, events are
On Oct 1, 4:06 pm, Satya satya...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi
I am new to this group, i heard that this is a dedicated group with
java script experts.
This is a group about rails. There are many other groups dedicated to
javascript and/or libraries written in javascript but this isn't one
of them
On 01 Oct 2009, at 19:00, WyattBiker wrote:
Hi, I have a game that I need to make a small backend game management
server so that gamers can play against each other.
My game is turn based and very little data goes across only 2 players
per game but many games can be going on at once. Kind of
I'd say there's probably something wrong with your session table
schema - is id declared as an autoincrement field?
--Matt Jones
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I am getting the following error using sqlite3. If I ran the same query
directly in sqlite3
Quoting Yiannis istoseli...@gmail.com:
Hello
I have a strange problem with this code:
%unless (@students.empty? and params[:commit].nil?) %
%=test%
%= render :partial = 'results' %
% end %
unless both conditions are true, render the partial
the equivalent is:
if
Josh Infiesto wrote:
How do you manage that? IE 5, 6 and 7 don't support the table
element :P.
Of course they do.
If I had my choice, I'd use them too, but until IE 6 and 7
finally die... I can't do it!
Nonsense.
On Oct 1, 5:48�am, Marnen Laibow-Koser rails-mailing-l...@andreas-
Best,
Hi all,
Today I have the following:
%= select( x, Y, { = ,FOO = F ,BAR = B}) %
Now I have to test each item in the hash against a determined condition
and display only if the test returns true.How could I do that?
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Have you read this?
http://guides.rubyonrails.org/routing.html
Yes, I have. However, because of your referral I have taken a fresh
look. It is still none too clear to me. Here is what I get:
The respond_to block allows us to assign separate action code and a
separate response to each
Doug Jolley wrote:
Have you read this?
http://guides.rubyonrails.org/routing.html
Yes, I have. However, because of your referral I have taken a fresh
look. It is still none too clear to me. Here is what I get:
The respond_to block allows us to assign separate action code and a
Rafael Roque wrote:
Hi all,
Today I have the following:
%= select( x, Y, { = ,FOO = F ,BAR = B}) %
Now I have to test each item in the hash against a determined condition
and display only if the test returns true.How could I do that?
Hash#select() .
Best,
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since rails added timezone support and integrated tzinfo, is there a
difference in usine TimeZone vs Tzinfo::Timezone?
Is there a relationship between the two? Looking at the API docs there
is more functionality in the latter.
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This might be more of an HTML question but it could be because of an
interaction with Rails that the solution I use right now is not
working.
I have tried several ways to jump/scroll to a certain row in a large
table, I tried an event like div id=event#666 and use
http://website#section#666
Marnen Laibow-Koser wrote:
Rafael Roque wrote:
Hi all,
Today I have the following:
%= select( x, Y, { = ,FOO = F ,BAR = B}) %
Now I have to test each item in the hash against a determined condition
and display only if the test returns true.How could I do that?
Hash#select() .
Hello, I have this simple blog Post, I just want to jazz it up a bit
with paragraphs, and bold faces, thought that wasn't too much to ask
for. But when I enter the following in the text area
strongYou won't believe this!!/strong
and save submit it, and then display it in the show action,
OK I am back with some better data.
I have Apache2.2 set up with a VirtualHost for the Rails site and
loading fcgid not fastcgi. Apache is sending all requests to the base
URL to dispatch.fcgi and the Redmine site checks the db and loads very
slowly without any CSS or Javascript. The Redmine
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 10:45 PM, kashyap ckkash...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi All,
I am working on a POC that I'd like to show a group of 10 to 15 folks.
I was wondering if sqlite would do for db with about 20 people hitting
on the application. Does sqlite locking the entire db while writing
Oops! Yes indeed I need an or instead of and, how I missed
that?? :) Thank you all for your help and the advices!
On Oct 1, 8:31 pm, Jeffrey L. Taylor r...@abluz.dyndns.org wrote:
Quoting Yiannis istoseli...@gmail.com:
Hello
I have a strange problem with this code:
%unless
What version of Rails are you using? I seem to remember discussion of
auto-escaping by default in v3, but to my knowledge and testing this
is not the case as of 2.3.4.
Check to make sure that your data is not html-escaped in the database.
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Have you read this?
http://guides.rubyonrails.org/routing.html
Yes, I have. However, because of your referral I have taken a fresh
look. It is still none too clear to me. Here is what I get:
The respond_to block allows us to assign separate
You're just using the wrong syntax. Use id=event666 and link to it
like http://some/url#event666
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I installed ImageMagick 6.5.6 and all seems to be installed ok.
I downloaded ImageMagick 6.5.6
I entered
$ ./configure
and everything seems OK. When I enter
$ identify -version
I get
Version: ImageMagick 6.5.6-6 2009-09-30 Q8 OpenMP http://www.imagemagick.org
Copyright: Copyright (C)
Rafael Roque wrote:
Marnen Laibow-Koser wrote:
Rafael Roque wrote:
Hi all,
Today I have the following:
%= select( x, Y, { = ,FOO = F ,BAR = B}) %
Now I have to test each item in the hash against a determined condition
and display only if the test returns true.How could I do that?
kashyap wrote:
Hi All,
I am working on a POC that I'd like to show a group of 10 to 15 folks.
I was wondering if sqlite would do for db with about 20 people hitting
on the application. Does sqlite locking the entire db while writing
manifest itself in such scenario?
From what I understand,
John wrote:
[...]
other Rails apps ( simple hello world works in
present config)
Then perhaps this *is* a Redmine issue.
well, here's my logic: a simple hello world rails app works, but it
doesn't have complex routes or stylesheets or javascript files,
It *does* have stylesheets and
John wrote:
OK I am back with some better data.
I have Apache2.2 set up with a VirtualHost for the Rails site and
loading fcgid not fastcgi. Apache is sending all requests to the base
URL to dispatch.fcgi and the Redmine site checks the db and loads very
slowly without any CSS or Javascript.
I've had some problems with Debian and Ubuntu in what comes to the
version of the rubygems package. Usually it's outdated and if you need
too new gems versions you will have problems.
Install rubygems manually, always, period.
I think Apache + Passenger is the best choice.
Nginx +
require 'net/https'
... or else sounds like maybe ruby wasn't compiled with SSL support.
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I've had some problems with Debian and Ubuntu in what comes to the
version of the rubygems package. Usually it's outdated and if you need
too new gems versions you will have problems.
Install rubygems manually, always, period.
I don't seem to recall any problems on
2009/10/1 JohnDel istoseli...@gmail.com:
Oops! Yes indeed I need an or instead of and, how I missed
that?? :) Thank you all for your help and the advices!
I think Jeffrey is right, unless with complex logic is just too
difficult for most of us to get our brains round easily. I avoid it
Is there any way around this situation? Is there some way to keep the
instantiated class alive so it can be used in subsequent actions?
Sure, for the non user-specific parts, you can lazy-load and cache:
class Expensive
def self.share_me
@some_val ||= expensive_calculation
end
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Marnen Laibow-Koser
rails-mailing-l...@andreas-s.net wrote:
I'll try that sometime. For the second time in this thread, though: why
is Nginx better? Just speed?
It's the fastest I've ever used.
Resource usage?
It uses the least memory of anything I've tried
2009/10/1 Matt mattbog...@gmail.com:
Hi
This might be more of an HTML question but it could be because of an
interaction with Rails that the solution I use right now is not
working.
I have tried several ways to jump/scroll to a certain row in a large
table, I tried an event like div
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Colin Law clan...@googlemail.com wrote:
I think Jeffrey is right, unless with complex logic is just too
difficult for most of us to get our brains round easily.
You just insulted thousands of Perl programmers.
But seriously.. it's just the opposite of if.
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Looking around it seems like TimeZone is the calss to use at least for
storing timezones to make time displays in user's local zone.
On Oct 1, 2:49 pm, tashfeen.ekram tashfeen.ek...@gmail.com wrote:
since rails added timezone support and integrated tzinfo, is there a
difference in usine
2009/10/1 Matt mattbog...@gmail.com:
I have tried several ways to jump/scroll to a certain row in a large
table, I tried an event like div id=event#666 and use
http://website#section#666
I inserted the div with the even before the tr and after it, both
did not work
I've started using this
2009/10/1 Greg Donald gdon...@gmail.com:
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Colin Law clan...@googlemail.com wrote:
I think Jeffrey is right, unless with complex logic is just too
difficult for most of us to get our brains round easily.
You just insulted thousands of Perl programmers.
But
I currently have a page controller that gets html content from the DB
and then renders it. is there a way to use ERB to pre process the
html and make it rhtml? allowing me to post more dynamic content..
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I just tried with 1.8.7. Same results. It is not a 1.9 issue.
Cris
heimdull wrote:
That error looks more like a mysql gem and ruby 1.9 compatibility
issue.
Have a look at this site http://isitruby19.com/mysql that talks about
issues with Ruby 1.9
On Oct 1, 9:41�am, Cris Shupp
Matt wrote:
Hi
This might be more of an HTML question but it could be because of an
interaction with Rails that the solution I use right now is not
working.
I have tried several ways to jump/scroll to a certain row in a large
table, I tried an event like div id=event#666 and use
Greg Donald wrote:
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Marnen Laibow-Koser
rails-mailing-l...@andreas-s.net wrote:
I'll try that sometime. �For the second time in this thread, though: why
is Nginx better? �Just speed?
It's the fastest I've ever used.
Resource usage?
It uses the least
spokra wrote:
I currently have a page controller that gets html content from the DB
and then renders it. is there a way to use ERB to pre process the
html and make it rhtml?
I suppose so, but this is a bad idea from a security point of view.
It's too easy for someone to put into the DB a
Hi Jemminger, I am using 2.3.2
On Oct 1, 12:31 pm, jemminger jemmin...@gmail.com wrote:
What version of Rails are you using? I seem to remember discussion of
auto-escaping by default in v3, but to my knowledge and testing this
is not the case as of 2.3.4.
Check to make sure that your data
oh yes and the database is mysql that comes with instantrails 2.0
On Oct 1, 12:31 pm, jemminger jemmin...@gmail.com wrote:
What version of Rails are you using? I seem to remember discussion of
auto-escaping by default in v3, but to my knowledge and testing this
is not the case as of 2.3.4.
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