[sage-devel] Re: limits in SAGE

2007-09-30 Thread Mike Hansen
Hey Ondrej, While the correspondence is not exact, this should be enough to work: sage: e = x*y sage: type(e) sage: e._operands [x, y] sage: e._operator sage: e = exp(y) sage: e._operands [exp, y] sage: type(e) sage: var('z') z sage: f = x+y*z sage: f._operands [x, y*z] sage: (y*z)._operands

[sage-devel] Re: bug report: Maxima had to be restarted.

2007-09-30 Thread Mike Hansen
This is due to maxima's interactive questioning. (%i3) limit((sin(2*x)/x)**(1+x), x, 0); Is x positive or negative? positive; Is sin(2 x) positive or negative? positive; (%o3) 2 I don't know if there is anything we can really do about this other than show a

[sage-devel] limits in SAGE

2007-09-30 Thread Ondrej Certik
Hi > sage: limit((sin(2*x)/x)**(1+x), x=0) > --- > Traceback (most recent call last) BTW in SymPy: In [1]: from sympy.series.limits2 import compare, mrv, rewrite, mrv_leadterm, limit In [2]: limit((sin(2*x)/x)

[sage-devel] Re: Plotting free modules

2007-09-30 Thread Timothy Clemans
On 9/30/07, Justin C. Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Sep 30, 2007, at 10:10 PM, Timothy Clemans wrote: > > > > > That is a feature that has been in SAGE since the calculus module was > > added. > > How does this relate to the calculus package, or are you just noting > the release when

[sage-devel] bug report: Maxima had to be restarted.

2007-09-30 Thread Ondrej Certik
$ ./sage -- | SAGE Version 2.8.4.1, Release Date: 2007-09-09 | | Type notebook() for the GUI, and license() for information.| -- sage

[sage-devel] Re: Plotting free modules

2007-09-30 Thread Justin C. Walker
On Sep 30, 2007, at 10:10 PM, Timothy Clemans wrote: > > That is a feature that has been in SAGE since the calculus module was > added. How does this relate to the calculus package, or are you just noting the release when it first appeared? > In typing that in a notebook I found out that the

[sage-devel] Re: Plotting free modules

2007-09-30 Thread Justin C. Walker
On Sep 30, 2007, at 10:14 PM, Mike Hansen wrote: > >> sage: Z4=FreeModule(ZZ,4) >> sage: P=Z2.plot() >> sage: P.show() >> >> Bug? Feature? > > Yeah, I think the units on the axes are a bit off ;) You're right. At first I thought the .25 related to the rank, but I got the same thing for rank

[sage-devel] Re: Plotting free modules

2007-09-30 Thread Mike Hansen
> sage: Z4=FreeModule(ZZ,4) > sage: P=Z2.plot() > sage: P.show() > > Bug? Feature? Yeah, I think the units on the axes are a bit off ;) --Mike --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group,

[sage-devel] Re: Plotting free modules

2007-09-30 Thread Timothy Clemans
That is a feature that has been in SAGE since the calculus module was added. In typing that in a notebook I found out that the sage: prompt is no longer valid. On 9/30/07, Justin C. Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This seems kind of odd to me. Try this at home: > > sage: Z4=FreeModule(ZZ,4

[sage-devel] Plotting free modules

2007-09-30 Thread Justin C. Walker
This seems kind of odd to me. Try this at home: sage: Z4=FreeModule(ZZ,4) sage: P=Z2.plot() sage: P.show() Bug? Feature? Justin -- Justin C. Walker, Curmudgeon-At-Large Institute for the Enhancement of the Director's Income Experience is what you get when you don't get what you w

[sage-devel] Re: SAGEIDE version .02 released

2007-09-30 Thread Ted Kosan
tboothby wrote: > I realize that the answer to this is probably a resounding "NO!", but: are > you >planning to support the debugging of Cython code? If people think that the approach JpyDbg uses for Python debugging would work with Cython, I might be interested in supporting Cython debugging

[sage-devel] Re: SAGEIDE version .02 released

2007-09-30 Thread boothby
I realize that the answer to this is probably a resounding "NO!", but: are you planning to support the debugging of Cython code? On Sun, 30 Sep 2007, Ted Kosan wrote: > > SAGEIDE version .02 has been released and it can be obtained here: > > http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/tkosan/sageide

[sage-devel] SAGEIDE version .02 released

2007-09-30 Thread Ted Kosan
SAGEIDE version .02 has been released and it can be obtained here: http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/tkosan/sageide_dist.02.zip Here is a screenshot of SAGEIDE: http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/tkosan/sageide0.png The installation instructions are very simple: INSTALLATION INSTRUCTIO

[sage-devel] Re: Mathematica and Free Software in Mexico

2007-09-30 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sep 28, 12:58 pm, Robert Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It would be nice to know the name of the author of this article - how > strange that it isn't included in the rant, and all I get from > exploring is "tirinanana?" Hi. I wrote it. Er, the "tirinanana?" thing is very inside joke. I p

[sage-devel] Ticket #766 (duplicate method)

2007-09-30 Thread Justin C. Walker
I just created this. While browsing source, I noticed that an_element_impl() appears to be defined twice in structure/ formal_sum.py. It's easy to fix, but I have a 50% chance of being right. Justin -- Justin C. Walker, Curmudgeon-At-Large Institute for the Absorption of Federal Funds ---

[sage-devel] Re: Slow linear algebra over (fraction fields) of polynomial rings

2007-09-30 Thread Mike Hansen
Patches attached to http://www.sagetrac.org/sage_trac/ticket/764 . sage -testall passes, but the test for hash(P) in multi_polynomial_libsingular.pyx needs to be changed for 32-bit machines since I don't have access to one. --Mike --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to

[sage-devel] Re: Slow linear algebra over (fraction fields) of polynomial rings

2007-09-30 Thread William Stein
On Sep 30, 2007, at 12:33 PM, "Mike Hansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 9/30/07, Martin Albrecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> On Sunday 30 September 2007, John Cremona wrote: >>> I agree with this (but the documentation should be very clear). >>> It's >> >> +1 >> >> Martin > > sage:

[sage-devel] Re: Slow linear algebra over (fraction fields) of polynomial rings

2007-09-30 Thread Mike Hansen
On 9/30/07, Martin Albrecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sunday 30 September 2007, John Cremona wrote: > > I agree with this (but the documentation should be very clear). It's > > +1 > > Martin sage: PolynomialRing(ZZ, 'x') Univariate Polynomial Ring in x over Integer Ring sage: PolynomialR

[sage-devel] Re: Slow linear algebra over (fraction fields) of polynomial rings

2007-09-30 Thread Martin Albrecht
On Sunday 30 September 2007, John Cremona wrote: > I agree with this (but the documentation should be very clear). It's +1 Martin -- name: Martin Albrecht _pgp: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x8EF0DC99 _www: http://www.informatik.uni-bremen.de/~malb _jab: [EMAIL PROTECTED

[sage-devel] Re: Slow linear algebra over (fraction fields) of polynomial rings

2007-09-30 Thread John Cremona
I agree with this (but the documentation should be very clear). It's the same in Magma: > Type(PolynomialRing(RationalField())); RngUPol > Type(PolynomialRing(RationalField(),1)); RngMPol John On 30/09/2007, William Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 9/30/07, Mike Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED

[sage-devel] Re: first talk at SAGE Days 5 -- Computing with the Birch and Swinnerton-Dyer Conjecture

2007-09-30 Thread John Cremona
Wish I could be there! Fine by me if you want to give the same in Bristol. John On 30/09/2007, William Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > See the file bsd.pdf here: > > http://wstein.org/talks/20070930-stein-bsd/ > > for the first SD5 talk, whi

[sage-devel] first talk at SAGE Days 5 -- Computing with the Birch and Swinnerton-Dyer Conjecture

2007-09-30 Thread William Stein
Hi, See the file bsd.pdf here: http://wstein.org/talks/20070930-stein-bsd/ for the first SD5 talk, which is on "Computing with the Birch and Swinnerton-Dyer Conjecture". -- william -- William Stein Associate Professor of Mathematics University of Washington http://

[sage-devel] Re: Slow linear algebra over (fraction fields) of polynomial rings

2007-09-30 Thread Mike Hansen
> Wait! This would an explicit intentional design choice, not a bug. > I think it should be possible to create ZZ['x'] but as a multivariate > polynomial ring instead of a univariate polynomial ring, > since there are certain things one can do with multivariate > polynomial rings that don't make

[sage-devel] Re: Slow linear algebra over (fraction fields) of polynomial rings

2007-09-30 Thread William Stein
On 9/30/07, Mike Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > There is something *extremely* fishy about the base ring here! It's > > a *multivariate* polynomial ring: > > Here is the culprit: > > sage: type(PolynomialRing(ZZ, 1, 'x')) > 'sage.rings.polynomial.multi_polynomial_ring.MPolynomialRing_po

[sage-devel] Re: Slow linear algebra over (fraction fields) of polynomial rings

2007-09-30 Thread Mike Hansen
> There is something *extremely* fishy about the base ring here! It's > a *multivariate* polynomial ring: Here is the culprit: sage: type(PolynomialRing(ZZ, 1, 'x')) while sage: type(PolynomialRing(ZZ, 'x')) I've created a ticket: http://www.sagetrac.org/sage_trac/ticket/764 and will post