The first bunch of SAGE dependencies entered the Debian NEW queue (the
queue of packages waiting for review from the Debian ftpmasters before
they are uploaded to Debian unstable) tonight; by tomorrow I expect that
that the remaining SAGE dependencies will enter the Debian NEW queue.
I am
2008/6/4 Robert Bradshaw [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
But right now we've already got enough on our plate trying to get the
changes we have pushed through. (Any help on this front would be
greatly appreciated.)
Robert,
Can you be more specific about how others can help with this?
John
On Jun 4, 1:32 am, David Joyner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I would like to learn a bit about Blender too. If you have a book you'd
recommend, please let me know.
I've played around with blender and it's amazingly cool if you
understand how it works (the UI), but this takes some time. I don't
According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lattice_Boltzmann_methods
the packages
http://www.lbmethod.org/openlb/
and
http://www.physics.ndsu.nodak.edu/people/wagner/LB.html
are GPL'd. The first is GPLv2 but SAGE is licensed GPLv2+,
and the second is licenced under the GPL but doesn't say which
On May 30, 10:03 am, mabshoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On May 30, 10:06 am, Dr. David Kirkby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I managed to get quite a way building 3.0.2 on my Solaris laptop
before there were any issues at all, but with 3.0.3.alpha0 things have
not gone so smoothly. However,
On Jun 4, 5:13 am, mabshoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello folks,
with malb's libSingular fix we are down from 120+ segfaults to about
100 doctest failures, none of them segfaults. While that does not look
like much of an improvement nearly all of those errors are caused by
the following
Robert,
Thanks for the elaboration. I hope that this follow-up is not too far
off topic and I don't want to distract you (or any of the Sage
developers) from your main tasks. I wrote this mostly as notes and
questions to myself - but if you or anyone else have some time or the
inclination to
On Jun 4, 2008, at 7:07 AM, Bill Page wrote:
Ok (and thanks also for the clarification, David). There are of course
two different uses of object here: 1) object of some category, 2)
Python object. All Python objects have a 'type', i.e. belong to some
Python class.
So in Sage 3.0.2 I
Here's my attempt to build sage 3.0.2 on Solaris (SPARC).
The build process reports gmp_aux.h is not found, I checked and there
is no such file. However, this in itself does not cause the build
process to stop, but it later stops when various things are
undefined.
See below.
The system in a
Just found this:
http://www.ohloh.net/projects/sage
Sage seems to have 5 users and 173 contributors :-)!
Jaap
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Dr. David Kirkby wrote:
Here's my attempt to build sage 3.0.2 on Solaris (SPARC).
The build process reports gmp_aux.h is not found, I checked and there
is no such file. However, this in itself does not cause the build
process to stop, but it later stops when various things are
undefined.
On Wednesday 04 June 2008, Jaap Spies wrote:
Just found this:
http://www.ohloh.net/projects/sage
Sage seems to have 5 users and 173 contributors :-)!
Is this relevant:
http://www.ohloh.net/projects/sage/factoids/473513
?
Martin
--
name: Martin Albrecht
_pgp:
On Jun 4, 2:06 pm, Dr. David Kirkby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Here's my attempt to build sage 3.0.2 on Solaris (SPARC).
The build process reports gmp_aux.h is not found, I checked and there
is no such file. However, this in itself does not cause the build
process to stop, but it later stops
On Wednesday 04 June 2008, Jaap Spies wrote:
Just found this:
http://www.ohloh.net/projects/sage
Sage seems to have 5 users and 173 contributors :-)!
Jaap
Another thing (this is a funny tool to play with :-))
Few source code comments
Sage: Open Source Mathematics Software is written
On Jun 4, 12:51 pm, Dr. David Kirkby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Jun 4, 5:13 am, mabshoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello folks,
Hi David,
with malb's libSingular fix we are down from 120+ segfaults to about
100 doctest failures, none of them segfaults. While that does not look
like
Well, I have seens the same problem on other Solaris boxen and we do
not explicitly just /dev/random, but we do so via GNUTLS. We might
patch GNUTLS slightly on Solaris, but up to know it isn't 100% clear
to my why this happens.
Yeah, patching the random number generation of the SSL
On Jun 4, 2:56 pm, Francois [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
SNIP
Hi,
Hi Francois,
It looks like gmp_aux.h is generated during make setup3 which is
completely skipped on sun, from the skpg-install script:
do_tune()
{
if [ $UNAME = SunOS ]; then
return
fi
do_make setup1
On Jun 4, 3:08 pm, Martin Albrecht [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Well, I have seens the same problem on other Solaris boxen and we do
not explicitly just /dev/random, but we do so via GNUTLS. We might
patch GNUTLS slightly on Solaris, but up to know it isn't 100% clear
to my why this
William Stein [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Sage Enhancement Proposal: Change comparisons that involve
elements of the symbolic ring to return True or False if both sides
of the symbolic comparison are constants and the comparison can
be definitely determined.
I'm not sure what symbolic
On Wednesday 04 June 2008, Timothy G Abbott wrote:
The first bunch of SAGE dependencies entered the Debian NEW queue (the
queue of packages waiting for review from the Debian ftpmasters before
they are uploaded to Debian unstable) tonight; by tomorrow I expect that
that the remaining SAGE
Curious. I show up as a contributor at least 3 times. William shows up at
least 10 times... I think I saw you (Martin) in there at least twice. It seems
that many of us don't configure .hgrc on every machine we use...
On Wed, 4 Jun 2008, Martin Albrecht wrote:
On Wednesday 04 June 2008,
On Jun 4, 5:29 pm, Martin Albrecht [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Wednesday 04 June 2008, mabshoff wrote:
SNIP
Yes, what could go wrong? ;)
Seriously: What I meant above is that we ought to see on Solaris only
if switching to /dev/urandom as an entropy source does fix the
infinite
On Wednesday 04 June 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Curious. I show up as a contributor at least 3 times. William shows up at
least 10 times... I think I saw you (Martin) in there at least twice. It
seems that many of us don't configure .hgrc on every machine we use...
Yes, and sometimes
Hi
I just read the installation readme and built my own application to
start the sageserver:
Just start the Apple-ScriptEditor and enter the following code:
tell application Terminal
do script /Applications/sage/sage -notebook
end tell
Well, that's all. Now only save the script as a
On Jun 4, 6:13 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi
Hi Kai-Philipp
I just read the installation readme and built my own application to
start the sageserver:
Just start the Apple-ScriptEditor and enter the following code:
tell application Terminal
do script
On Jun 4, 12:13 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi
I just read the installation readme and built my own application to
start the sageserver:
Just start the Apple-ScriptEditor and enter the following code:
tell application Terminal
do script /Applications/sage/sage
The first bunch of SAGE dependencies entered the Debian NEW queue (the
queue of packages waiting for review from the Debian ftpmasters before
they are uploaded to Debian unstable) tonight; by tomorrow I expect that
that the remaining SAGE dependencies will enter the Debian NEW queue.
On Jun 4, 2008, at 1:32 AM, John Cremona wrote:
2008/6/4 Robert Bradshaw [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
But right now we've already got enough on our plate trying to get the
changes we have pushed through. (Any help on this front would be
greatly appreciated.)
Robert,
Can you be more specific about
Hi Dave,
I know one issue with NTL that pops up when people use either csh or
tcsh as a login shell and I got a likely fix that will be in Sage
3.0.3.
SNIP
Cheers,
Michael
It's not that
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:[~] $ grep drkirkby /etc/passwd
Dear Michael,
I am glad that you have made some progress.
I am copying this to sage-devel since the questions you ask are about
how to use Sage and not about this particular problem (which is to
compute integral points on elliptic curves, if anyone on sage-devel is
reading this).
2008/6/4
First, I really think this web site looks much better, and mature. Great
job!
I asked my roomate, Alan, to review it, since he's quite a bit into web
app. development. Here are his comments:
* in general: less pages, dont hide things 3 pages deep. everything on
the site could be edited down
Everyone keeps saying they don't like the blue.
Well, I *do* like the blue!
Just my 2 cents :-)
david
On Jun 4, 2008, at 1:40 PM, Clement Pernet wrote:
First, I really think this web site looks much better, and mature.
Great
job!
I asked my roomate, Alan, to review it, since he's
On Jun 4, 2008, at 4:07 AM, Bill Page wrote:
Robert,
Thanks for the elaboration. I hope that this follow-up is not too far
off topic and I don't want to distract you (or any of the Sage
developers) from your main tasks. I wrote this mostly as notes and
questions to myself - but if you or
nitpicking issues. (some are more subjective than others, feel
free to ignore any of the suggestions below)
main page:
Python based = Python-based
Next to the download button, shouldn't be a space between 3.0.2 and
the comma; and I don't see the need for a colon after Version
On Jun 4, 2008, at 8:40 AM, Dan Christensen wrote:
William Stein [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Sage Enhancement Proposal: Change comparisons that involve
elements of the symbolic ring to return True or False if both sides
of the symbolic comparison are constants and the comparison can
be
Some more.
Development page:
The proclaimed mission is = Our mission is
Let's be consistent with create vs creating. It's different here
from the main page. I think creating is better.
In the enumerated list, I would prefer n-dashes (ndash;) instead of
hyphens.
There is the IRC channel =
On the main page, why not put the mission *first*, and then
afterwards put Sage is...
Also, under Library, I don't know what works means. Maybe that
works in deutsch, but it doesn't work in english :-). Do you mean
like projects that use Sage, or tools built on top of Sage, or
something
On Jun 5, 1:10 am, mabshoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jun 4, 2:56 pm, Francois [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
SNIP
Hi,
Hi Francois,
It looks like gmp_aux.h is generated during make setup3 which is
completely skipped on sun, from the skpg-install script:
do_tune()
{
if [
On Jun 4, 9:30 pm, Francois [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jun 5, 1:10 am, mabshoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
SNIP
gmp_aux.h exists without the tuning, but I am not sure why we skip the
tuning on Solaris. I will certainly see if I cannot reactivate that.
As I mentioned in the other email
On Jun 4, 2008, at 9:02 AM, mabshoff wrote:
On Jun 4, 5:29 pm, Martin Albrecht [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Wednesday 04 June 2008, mabshoff wrote:
SNIP
Yes, what could go wrong? ;)
Seriously: What I meant above is that we ought to see on Solaris
only
if switching to /dev/urandom as
On Jun 4, 9:39 pm, Robert Bradshaw [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Jun 4, 2008, at 9:02 AM, mabshoff wrote:
SNIP
Aside from that it would be good with somebody with deeper Solaris-
internals fu than me could enlighten me if /dev/random is the
preferred source of randomness. On linux at
In: http://modular.math.washington.edu/msri06/work/kohel/msri_magma.pdf
A Brief Magma Tutorial by David R. Kohel gives this example:
--
The parent structure of a tuple is more important than in the case
of sequences or sets.
C := CartesianProduct(Integers(),RationalField());
t :=
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 3:03 PM, Bill Page [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In: http://modular.math.washington.edu/msri06/work/kohel/msri_magma.pdf
A Brief Magma Tutorial by David R. Kohel gives this example:
--
The parent structure of a tuple is more important than in the case
of
Thanks, just went through your remarks, very good comments. I used
about 90% of them ...
On Jun 4, 8:19 pm, David Harvey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On the main page, why not put the mission *first*, and then
afterwards put Sage is...
This first page first sentence problem will never be
Notice that the parent of t[1] is incorrect in the 2nd case.
This is a bug. I've opened a ticket here:
http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/3368
and assigned it to Mike Hansen :-)
This was never the intended functionality of CartesianProduct? -- it
is different than the
On Jun 4, 8:35 pm, mabshoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jun 4, 9:30 pm, Francois [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jun 5, 1:10 am, mabshoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
SNIP
gmp_aux.h exists without the tuning, but I am not sure why we skip the
tuning on Solaris. I will certainly see if I
On Jun 5, 12:56 am, Dr. David Kirkby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Jun 4, 8:35 pm, mabshoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
SNIP
Hi David,
I don't believe the problem I was experiencing is anything to do with
the shell, or how it is called. As Is said, I'm not using csh or tcsh
as a login shell,
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 6:07 PM, William Stein wrote:
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 3:03 PM, Bill Page wrote:
Is there any interest in also implementing the Co-product constructor?
Yes.
What about Record and Union constructors?
I don't know what those are (at least what Record is).
Records
On Jun 5, 11:05 am, mabshoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jun 5, 12:56 am, Dr. David Kirkby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Jun 4, 8:35 pm, mabshoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
SNIP
Hi David,
I don't believe the problem I was experiencing is anything to do with
the shell, or how it is
On Jun 5, 12:05 am, mabshoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
g++ -I../include -I. -O2 -g -fPIC -fPIC -shared -Wl,-soname,lib`cat
DIRNAME`.so -o lib`cat DIRNAME`.so FFT.o FacVec.o GF2.o GF2E.o GF2EX.o
GF2EXFactoring.o GF2X.o GF2X1.o GF2XFactoring.o GF2XVec.o GetTime.o
HNF.o ctools.o LLL.o
On Jun 5, 12:36 am, Francois [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Spot on Michael. gcc config is given at the beginning of the
compilation and says: --without-gnu-ld --with-ld=/usr/ccs/bin/ld
OK back to square one to put together a better patch.
It's at time like this that you start wishing everything
I set up a Sun Ultra 60 for testing of sage and have mailed a couple
of people passwords. I just checked this, and found another issue with
NTL on the Ultra 60 which I did not notice on the Blade 2000.
It appears to fail with:
make: Fatal error in reader: makefile, line 522: Macro assignment
On Jun 5, 2:32 am, Dr. David Kirkby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I set up a Sun Ultra 60 for testing of sage and have mailed a couple
of people passwords. I just checked this, and found another issue with
NTL on the Ultra 60 which I did not notice on the Blade 2000.
It appears to fail with:
On Jun 4, 2008, at 6:09 PM, Harald Schilly wrote:
Also, under Library, I don't know what works means.
This was already a problem mentioned somewhere else. Very interesting.
I looked it up in a dictionary and it is the correct translation.
Maybe it is used differently? Or is the word
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 1:54 PM, Robert Bradshaw wrote:
On Jun 4, 2008, at 4:07 AM, Bill Page wrote:
...
These seem consistent to me, albeit rather complex. However I am
not sure I understand the following:
sage: parent(IntegerRing())
type 'sage.rings.integer_ring.IntegerRing_class'
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 7:35 PM, Bill Page [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 1:54 PM, Robert Bradshaw wrote:
On Jun 4, 2008, at 4:07 AM, Bill Page wrote:
...
These seem consistent to me, albeit rather complex. However I am
not sure I understand the following:
sage:
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 11:06 PM, William Stein wrote:
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 7:35 PM, Bill Page wrote:
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 1:54 PM, Robert Bradshaw wrote:
David's explanation of this is right on. We need parent() to work
in some sensible way on non-Elements (e.g. Python ints, objects
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 10:16 PM, Bill Page [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 11:06 PM, William Stein wrote:
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 7:35 PM, Bill Page wrote:
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 1:54 PM, Robert Bradshaw wrote:
David's explanation of this is right on. We need parent() to
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