[sage-devel] Re: Any chance of a permanent link to latest code?

2008-06-06 Thread Yi Qiang
+1 I think this is a fantastic idea and hope who ever has write access to sagemath.org will do this. On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 6:43 PM, Dr. David Kirkby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think it would be useful if there were two fixed links > > http://www.sagemath.org/dist/src/very-latest-release.t

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.0.3.alpha1 released!

2008-06-06 Thread mabshoff
Oops, pressed return by accident. This is 3.0.3.alpha1 and it was never meant to see the light of day since I wanted to use it internally to test rebuild on some boxen. Due to me chasing some other bugs and being busy in $REAL_LIFE alpha2 didn't make it, i.e. the Cyclomic patch which I merged in

[sage-devel] Sage 3.0.3.alpha1 released!

2008-06-06 Thread mabshoff
Merged in alpha1: #1440: Bjarke Hammersholt Roune:Inconsistency in subs and substitute for univariate polynomials #2353: Burcin Erocal: MPolynomialRing should be deprecated #3111: John Cremona: Two bug fixes for elliptic curve abelian_group() #3254: Mike Hansen: improvements and doctests

[sage-devel] Any chance of a permanent link to latest code?

2008-06-06 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
I think it would be useful if there were two fixed links http://www.sagemath.org/dist/src/very-latest-release.tar http://www.sagemath.org/dist/src/very-latest-release.md5 so one had a *permanent* link to the latest version, no matter if its an alpha, beta, release or whatever. It would then be

[sage-devel] Useful guide on porting between Solaris and Linux

2008-06-06 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
With so much code written for Linux, it can be a challenge to get it working with Solaris. I found a PDF on the web which covers the reverse problem - i.e. porting Solaris code to Linux. However, it is quite useful, as it compares flags on compilers and other porting issues. Solaris to Linux Port

[sage-devel] Re: Is there a quick way to bypassing building a .spkg file?

2008-06-06 Thread Michael Abshoff
On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 10:53 PM, Dr. David Kirkby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Since I have errors building polybori, and its a known issue which I > don't think I will be able to fix (not knowing C++), is there a way to > try to build Sage without this? Even if there is no chance of it > workin

[sage-devel] Is there a quick way to bypassing building a .spkg file?

2008-06-06 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Since I have errors building polybori, and its a known issue which I don't think I will be able to fix (not knowing C++), is there a way to try to build Sage without this? Even if there is no chance of it working, it would be worth finding any problems in other modules. --~--~-~--~~-

[sage-devel] Re: polybori errors on Solaris 10 update 4 (SPARC) with Sage 3.0.3.alpha1

2008-06-06 Thread Michael Abshoff
On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 10:35 PM, Dr. David Kirkby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi all, > Hi Dave, > > I've got a bit further with building sage-3.0.3.alpha1. After a few > hacks to ntl and flint, I got problems when building polybori It is a known issue - see below. > > 1) One of the pro

[sage-devel] polybori errors on Solaris 10 update 4 (SPARC) with Sage 3.0.3.alpha1

2008-06-06 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Hi all, I've got a bit further with building sage-3.0.3.alpha1. After a few hacks to ntl and flint, I got problems when building polybori. 1) One of the problems that stops this working is in C++ code, and I don't know C++ - only C. Anyone who knows C++ feel they might be able to fix polybori o

[sage-devel] Re: [Sage Bug Report] plot_vector_field doesn't change when the aspect ratio changes

2008-06-06 Thread Michael Abshoff
종현 정 wrote: Dear Jong Hyun Jung, > > Dear whom it may concern, > > I am writing about a bug report on plot_vector_field. > > ** > > * OS Name: Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition > o Version: 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Build 2600 > o Processor: x86 Famil

[sage-devel] Re: flint-1.06.p3 problems on Solaris (SPARC) - seems VERY similar to NTL issue.

2008-06-06 Thread mabshoff
On Jun 6, 6:46 pm, Bill Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Biill > Thanks for looking into this for us. My access to sun machines is > currently limited, but hopefully I should get access again in the next > few days. Then I'll definitely be keen to ensure FLINT compiles on > those machines. Th

[sage-devel] Re: coercing of sqrt(2)

2008-06-06 Thread John Cremona
2008/6/6 Nick Alexander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> This thread got slightly off topic to the original question though: >> where should sqrt(2) belong? Z[sqrt(2)], SR, or somewhere else? > > I always want my data to start as close to the initial object as > possible. In this case, Z[sqrt(2)] \into

[sage-devel] Re: coercing of sqrt(2)

2008-06-06 Thread Bill Page
On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 6:39 PM, Carl Witty wrote: > > OK, I'm convinced that unifying parents and types is elegant and > works very well in Aldor, and that it's possible in Python. However, > I don't think it's a good idea for Sage, because of pragmatic > limitations due to Python/Cython. These

[sage-devel] Re: coercing of sqrt(2)

2008-06-06 Thread Nick Alexander
> This thread got slightly off topic to the original question though: > where should sqrt(2) belong? Z[sqrt(2)], SR, or somewhere else? I always want my data to start as close to the initial object as possible. In this case, Z[sqrt(2)] \into SR and not vice versa -- so sqrt(2) should be in Z

[sage-devel] Re: coercing of sqrt(2)

2008-06-06 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Jun 5, 2008, at 3:39 PM, Carl Witty wrote: > On Jun 5, 12:37 pm, "Bill Page" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> The point I am making is that Python already has everything you need >> to implement the concept of the "parent" of an element as a type, >> i.e. >> directly as an instance of the class

[sage-devel] Re: flint-1.06.p3 problems on Solaris (SPARC) - seems VERY similar to NTL issue.

2008-06-06 Thread Bill Hart
Thanks for looking into this for us. My access to sun machines is currently limited, but hopefully I should get access again in the next few days. Then I'll definitely be keen to ensure FLINT compiles on those machines. In the mean time, feel free to email the corrected file to me and I'll add it

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-support] Re: implicit plot

2008-06-06 Thread alex clemesha
On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 10:25 PM, Nick Alexander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> ps. I have also had crazy ideas like the above, but using the >> 'Canvas' element for the web browser. (just thought I would mention >> this) > > I think this is a very good idea, probably better than "yet another > pl

[sage-devel] Re: hg clone and symlinks...

2008-06-06 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Jun 5, 2008, at 11:57 PM, root wrote: >> I don't exactly understand these distributed control systems very >> well, so hopefully this isn't an obvious question. Right now as I'm >> working on symbolics I commonly have files from multiple branches >> open >> (symbolics-stable/backup, symbolic

[sage-devel] Re: flint-1.06.p3 problems on Solaris (SPARC) - seems VERY similar to NTL issue.

2008-06-06 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On Jun 6, 1:57 pm, "Dr. David Kirkby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jun 6, 12:24 pm, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Yes, just remove the "-Wl, soname" stuff and you are good to go. > > If I'm not mistaken, a patch has been created in flint-1.06.p3/patches/ > makefile, which is doing

[sage-devel] Re: flint-1.06.p3 problems on Solaris (SPARC) - seems VERY similar to NTL issue.

2008-06-06 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On Jun 6, 12:24 pm, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, just remove the "-Wl, soname" stuff and you are good to go. If I'm not mistaken, a patch has been created in flint-1.06.p3/patches/ makefile, which is doing more harm than good. The pkg-install script has the line: cp patches/makef

[sage-devel] Re: flint-1.06.p3 problems on Solaris (SPARC) - seems VERY similar to NTL issue.

2008-06-06 Thread mabshoff
Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > I've downloaded sage-3.0.3.alpha1, overwrote sage-3.0.3.alpha1/spkg/ > standard/ntl-5.4.2.p3.spkg with one created by Francois on my Sun > Ultra 60 (main-webserver) and tried to compile Sage on my Blade 2000 > (kestrel). The Blade is quite a bit quicker than the Ultra 60,

[sage-devel] flint-1.06.p3 problems on Solaris (SPARC) - seems VERY similar to NTL issue.

2008-06-06 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
I've downloaded sage-3.0.3.alpha1, overwrote sage-3.0.3.alpha1/spkg/ standard/ntl-5.4.2.p3.spkg with one created by Francois on my Sun Ultra 60 (main-webserver) and tried to compile Sage on my Blade 2000 (kestrel). The Blade is quite a bit quicker than the Ultra 60, so needless to say I prefer to

[sage-devel] Re: hg clone and symlinks...

2008-06-06 Thread Gary Furnish
This was not my point. My point was that if you use multiple branches at the same time, your forced to have multiple physical branches of the files, and while from my conversations on irc this may be possible, its going to involve spending a bunch of effort to get what we already have working aga

[sage-devel] Re: Early failure of 3.0.3.alpha0 on Solaris Express on x86

2008-06-06 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On Jun 6, 10:11 am, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I'll change it and try to compile on my Solaris x86 laptop. > > Can you report back so I can open a ticket and fix it? I changed it and it did not work. The issue seems to be ABI gets set to "32" when run from the normal bash prompt a

[sage-devel] Re: Early failure of 3.0.3.alpha0 on Solaris Express on x86

2008-06-06 Thread mabshoff
On Jun 6, 10:13 am, "Dr. David Kirkby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On May 30, 10:03 am, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi David, > > > I've tried both Sun's make and GNU make. They both give the same > > > issue. > > > > Any ideas?? > > > I would suggest you change the shebang of spkg-inst

[sage-devel] Re: Another Solaris NTL problem

2008-06-06 Thread mabshoff
On Jun 6, 10:30 am, "Dr. David Kirkby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jun 6, 9:05 am, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi David, > > > * Then Solaris became free and open source. > > > Well, you still have to register for the privilege to download > > security fixes and that is annoying. I a

[sage-devel] Re: Another Solaris NTL problem

2008-06-06 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On Jun 6, 9:05 am, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > * Then Solaris became free and open source. > > Well, you still have to register for the privilege to download > security fixes and that is annoying. I am sure that many people once > they get Solaris up and running will be turned off by

[sage-devel] Re: Another Solaris NTL problem

2008-06-06 Thread Francois
On Jun 6, 6:44 pm, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jun 6, 8:31 am, "Dr. David Kirkby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Jun 6, 7:00 am, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Great, I copied your revised ntl package from your home directory (on > > > > my Sun Ultra 60 called 'mai

[sage-devel] Re: Early failure of 3.0.3.alpha0 on Solaris Express on x86

2008-06-06 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On May 30, 10:03 am, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've tried both Sun's make and GNU make. They both give the same > > issue. > > > Any ideas?? > > I would suggest you change the shebang of spkg-install to "#!/usr/bin/ > env bash". I didn't try this myself, but I suspect it will fix th

[sage-devel] Re: Another Solaris NTL problem

2008-06-06 Thread mabshoff
On Jun 6, 9:32 am, "Dr. David Kirkby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jun 6, 7:44 am, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi David, > > > The Solaris port does seem to be coming on, which is good. The ntl fix > > > from Francois seems to work on both my SPARCs. I do have another > > > problem,

[sage-devel] Re: git advantage

2008-06-06 Thread mabshoff
On Jun 6, 9:07 am, "Glenn H Tarbox, PhD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Glenn, > OK, so I just couldn't help myself... forgive me this transgression. (I > know I'm gonna regret this in the morning :-) Yes, flame thrower on ;) [just kidding] > I think Sage would benefit from git.  Its simply bet

[sage-devel] Re: Another Solaris NTL problem

2008-06-06 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On Jun 6, 7:44 am, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The Solaris port does seem to be coming on, which is good. The ntl fix > > from Francois seems to work on both my SPARCs. I do have another > > problem, but that needs to be on another subject, not this one. > > Thanks for testing ;) I sh

[sage-devel] Re: git advantage

2008-06-06 Thread Glenn H Tarbox, PhD
OK, so I just couldn't help myself... forgive me this transgression. (I know I'm gonna regret this in the morning :-) I think Sage would benefit from git. Its simply better and I think is gonna win overall even with the seeming efforts made by the git folks to torpedo its adoption. Truth is, ni