[sage-devel] Last call review requests for 3.3: blockers and useful tickets

2009-02-06 Thread mabshoff
Hello folks, alpha6 is nearly there, but Carl Witty found a whopping show stopper bug, i.e. #5198 that needs review. While waiting on that one and a couple other tickets to get reviewed I also checked the status of various other patches in the review pipeline. Blockers: #4752 ([with patch; need

[sage-devel] Re: python vs java for scientific computing

2009-02-06 Thread Tom Boothby
> I wrote a paper with an undergraduate showing > how to call Lisp (and therefore Maxima) from Microsoft's Excel. The > range data is > transferred to and from Lisp in a standard form. Symbolic data must be > strings. We also > add to the spreadsheet, commands for lisp evaluation, and lambda > e

[sage-devel] Paul Zimmermann's talk on wiki

2009-02-06 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi folks, Paul Zimmermann delivered a talk on Sage on 2009-01-19. This information has been added to the Sage talks wiki at http://wiki.sagemath.org/Talks Thank you, Paul, for your effort in spreading the word about Sage. -- Regards Minh Van Nguyen --~--~-~--~~~--

[sage-devel] Re: Sage as a back end

2009-02-06 Thread Harald Schilly
On Feb 7, 12:23 am, snowmaninthesun wrote: > Not really on topic but is there a way > to set google groups to email me directly when someone posts back to > my post, without being inundated with all of the forum emails  ?? yes, top right of the messages click "options" (second blue bar) then

[sage-devel] Re: python vs java for scientific computing

2009-02-06 Thread Ronan Paixão
Em Sex, 2009-01-23 às 09:49 -0800, rjf escreveu: > > > On Jan 22, 6:26 pm, mhampton wrote: > ... > > A python/ > > cython/javascript spreadsheet for the Sage notebook would be great - > > unfortunately I'm not going to write one. I think it would be hard to > > do it right. > > > > -M. Hampton

[sage-devel] Re: Generic tests and categories (was doctesting __hash__ ?)

2009-02-06 Thread William Stein
On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 1:01 PM, mabshoff wrote: > > > > On Feb 6, 11:53 am, "Nicolas M. Thiery" > wrote: >> Dear all, > > > > HI Nicolas, > >> I just want to mention that I am precisely setting up a standardized >> way in the category framework for setting up this kind of generic >> tes

[sage-devel] Re: Sage as a back end

2009-02-06 Thread Timothy Clemans
On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 6:23 PM, snowmaninthesun wrote: > > Thanks!!! That helps quite a bit. i'm sure i'll have plenty of > questions later!! I love the massive support that is behind Sage, and > I look forward to adding to it. Not really on topic but is there a way > to set google groups to emai

[sage-devel] Re: Sage as a back end

2009-02-06 Thread snowmaninthesun
Thanks!!! That helps quite a bit. i'm sure i'll have plenty of questions later!! I love the massive support that is behind Sage, and I look forward to adding to it. Not really on topic but is there a way to set google groups to email me directly when someone posts back to my post, without being in

[sage-devel] Re: Sage as a back end

2009-02-06 Thread Timothy Clemans
Hi, Thanks for expressing your interest in the Notebook. There's a simple API that should help you get started, see the docstring at the top of /sage/server/simple/twist.py The HTML for the web page /home/admin is in /sage/server/notebook/templates/worksheet_listing.html and the relevant Python

[sage-devel] Re: interactive licenses for non-free stuff (like nauty)

2009-02-06 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Feb 3, 2009, at 2:15 PM, William Stein wrote: > > PROPOSAL 1: When installing official Sage spkg's, Sage should not > interactively ask the user to agree to licenses. > > Justification: (1) My understanding is that interactive license > agreements are no more legally binding than non-interactiv

[sage-devel] Re: Sage as a back end

2009-02-06 Thread Jason Grout
snowmaninthesun wrote: > Hey, just jumped on the sage bandwagon. I'm looking to write a > sproutcore/javascript clientside math application with a django/(any > other python framework) serverside. I'm mainly a ruby on rails guy, > but piping into maxima proved too much for poor ruby. I have very

[sage-devel] Re: Generic tests and categories (was doctesting __hash__ ?)

2009-02-06 Thread mabshoff
On Feb 6, 11:53 am, "Nicolas M. Thiery" wrote: >         Dear all, HI Nicolas, > I just want to mention that I am precisely setting up a standardized > way in the category framework for setting up this kind of generic > tests. See in particular Sets? after installing the sage-combinat > pat

[sage-devel] Re: Sage Days 12 Final Report Summary

2009-02-06 Thread mabshoff
On Feb 6, 9:53 am, Ronan Paixão wrote: > Em Ter, 2009-01-27 às 06:13 -0800, mabshoff escreveu: Hi Ronan, > I'm against all that SUA stuff. I completely agree it's a great help to > get sage running on Windows, but that only happens for a very small user > base: those who have SUA installed.

[sage-devel] Sage as a back end

2009-02-06 Thread snowmaninthesun
Hey, just jumped on the sage bandwagon. I'm looking to write a sproutcore/javascript clientside math application with a django/(any other python framework) serverside. I'm mainly a ruby on rails guy, but piping into maxima proved too much for poor ruby. I have very little development experience w

[sage-devel] Generic tests and categories (was doctesting __hash__ ?)

2009-02-06 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
Dear all, On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 12:41:31PM -0800, William Stein wrote: > ... discussion about the right way of testing __hash__ > > Doctesting of __hash__ should be done by a function: > >sage: test.hash(GF(3^4, 'a')) >'ok' # or not raise exception > > The advantages of doin

[sage-devel] Re: error in calulations, big numbers, etc...

2009-02-06 Thread ahmet alper parker
One more comment on the subject. As we were trying to solve a Sturm-Lioville boundary value problem by finite difference method, we calculated eigenvalues and eigenvectors of some matrices on matlab and mathematica. In both of the programs, their 32 bit and 64 bit results were different (we tried t

[sage-devel] Re: Massively collaborative mathematics + Sage-ready blogs and forums

2009-02-06 Thread William Stein
On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Harald Schilly wrote: > > On Feb 6, 4:41 pm, Pat LeSmithe wrote: >> The custom editor would definitely be cool. I was referring to the >> possibility of running some of Sage's computations in the browser. For >> example, if the server had access to Python... >

[sage-devel] Re: Massively collaborative mathematics + Sage-ready blogs and forums

2009-02-06 Thread Harald Schilly
On Feb 6, 4:41 pm, Pat LeSmithe wrote: > The custom editor would definitely be cool.  I was referring to the > possibility of running some of Sage's computations in the browser.  For > example, if the server had access to Python... Ah, now i understand. The problem is, python alone doesn't help.

[sage-devel] Re: Sage Days 12 Final Report Summary

2009-02-06 Thread Ronan Paixão
Em Ter, 2009-01-27 às 06:13 -0800, mabshoff escreveu: > > > On Jan 26, 11:35 am, Robert Bradshaw > wrote: > > > > > I saw there was discussion of the Windows port at SD12. It doesn't > > look like the wiki page has been updated, is there a good summary of > > what the status is? > > I f

[sage-devel] Re: Factorizations

2009-02-06 Thread kcrisman
> > Thanks.  I strongly agree with your suggestion to add some additional > documentation to clarify the situation.   Thanks! Patch up at # 5192. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group,

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.3.alpha5 released

2009-02-06 Thread David Joyner
On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 9:42 AM, mabshoff wrote: > > > > On Feb 6, 6:38 am, David Joyner wrote: >> Sorry for the late reply: on ubuntu amd64 hardy heron, only 1 failure, >> very similar >> to one already reported by William: > > Hi David, > > can you see if the patch at #5172 fixes it for you? It

[sage-devel] Re: Massively collaborative mathematics + Sage-ready blogs and forums

2009-02-06 Thread Pat LeSmithe
Harald Schilly wrote: > On Feb 6, 12:41 pm, Pat LeSmithe wrote: >> In trying to answer a slightly different question, I just found pyjamas, >> an Apache-licensed Pythonic analogue of Google Web Toolkit (GWT): >> >> http://pyjs.org/ >> >> Could it be relevant? > > Well, this is a cross language c

[sage-devel] Re: Massively collaborative mathematics + Sage-ready blogs and forums

2009-02-06 Thread mabshoff
On Feb 6, 7:35 am, Jason Grout wrote: > mabshoff wrote: > > Yes, but Jython does not support the Python C-API, so you cannot run > > Sage that way. One day far, far into the future this might be doable > > via IronPython where a project exists to bring the Python C-API to > > the .Net machin

[sage-devel] Re: Massively collaborative mathematics + Sage-ready blogs and forums

2009-02-06 Thread Jason Grout
mabshoff wrote: > > > On Feb 6, 7:03 am, Jason Grout wrote: >> Ronan Paixão wrote: >> Of course, concerns about security and usability may well restrict the privileges to a specific subset of Sage's commands and fraction of server resources. Still, it would be great if Wikipedia

[sage-devel] Re: Massively collaborative mathematics + Sage-ready blogs and forums

2009-02-06 Thread mabshoff
On Feb 6, 7:03 am, Jason Grout wrote: > Ronan Paixão wrote: > > >> Of course, concerns about security and usability may well restrict the > >> privileges to a specific subset of Sage's commands and fraction of > >> server resources.  Still, it would be great if Wikipedia entries, say, > >> coul

[sage-devel] Re: Massively collaborative mathematics + Sage-ready blogs and forums

2009-02-06 Thread Jason Grout
Ronan Paixão wrote: > >> Of course, concerns about security and usability may well restrict the >> privileges to a specific subset of Sage's commands and fraction of >> server resources. Still, it would be great if Wikipedia entries, say, >> could include pertinent, pedagogical "gadgets" to illu

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.3.alpha5 released

2009-02-06 Thread mabshoff
On Feb 6, 6:38 am, David Joyner wrote: > Sorry for the late reply: on ubuntu amd64 hardy heron, only 1 failure, > very similar > to one already reported by William: Hi David, can you see if the patch at #5172 fixes it for you? It has already been merged in alpha6, but in case there is still a

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.3.alpha5 released

2009-02-06 Thread David Joyner
Sorry for the late reply: on ubuntu amd64 hardy heron, only 1 failure, very similar to one already reported by William: w...@tinah:~/sagefiles/sage-3.3.alpha5$ ./sage -t "devel/sage/sage/calculus/calculus.py" sage -t "devel/sage/sage/calculus/calculus.py" ***

[sage-devel] Re: Sage & reddit: "Mathematica No Longer World's Most Expensive Calculator? "

2009-02-06 Thread Ronan Paixão
Em Qua, 2009-02-04 às 17:44 -0800, William Stein escreveu: > > You are of course welcome to believe this, but the major competition > > for Mathematica > > is probably not Sage, but Matlab. > > For many engineering applications Matlab blows Mathematica out of the > water, and I wouldn't even cons

[sage-devel] Re: Massively collaborative mathematics + Sage-ready blogs and forums

2009-02-06 Thread Harald Schilly
On Feb 6, 12:41 pm, Pat LeSmithe wrote: > In trying to answer a slightly different question, I just found pyjamas, > an Apache-licensed Pythonic analogue of Google Web Toolkit (GWT): > > http://pyjs.org/ > > Could it be relevant? Well, this is a cross language compiler, and well, using GWT direc

[sage-devel] Re: Multivariate GCD

2009-02-06 Thread mabshoff
On Feb 6, 4:11 am, mabshoff wrote: My apologies for the double post. > Yes, I took Singular 3-0-3 using slimgb and computed the DegRevLex as > well as Lex basis of homogenized Karatsuba 7 for some F_p (p=31007 > maybe?) and the rationals. > >  * For DegRevLex and F_p Singular was slightly f

[sage-devel] Re: Multivariate GCD

2009-02-06 Thread mabshoff
On Feb 6, 3:30 am, Martin Albrecht wrote: > >  * libSingular is significant more effort to build and the interface > > isn't exactly clean > > That can and is being addressed. Sure, things are getting better and having other external uses, i.e. GFan as you mention below will make this all bett

[sage-devel] Re: Massively collaborative mathematics + Sage-ready blogs and forums

2009-02-06 Thread Pat LeSmithe
Ronan Paixão wrote: [> Pat LeSmithe wrote:] >> Of course, concerns about security and usability may well restrict the >> privileges to a specific subset of Sage's commands and fraction of >> server resources. Still, it would be great if Wikipedia entries, say, >> could include pertinent, pedagogi

[sage-devel] Re: Multivariate GCD

2009-02-06 Thread Martin Albrecht
> * libSingular is significant more effort to build and the interface > isn't exactly clean That can and is being addressed. > * CoCoALib is beautifully designed and tight. modern C++ code > without going nuts with templates. I have build it using g++, MSVC and > the Sun compiler. > * licens

[sage-devel] Re: Multivariate GCD

2009-02-06 Thread mabshoff
On Feb 6, 2:28 am, parisse wrote: > > So, you are using Cocoa or cocoalib? > > cocoalib > > > Being an expert for the groebner > > bases functionality, I can say, > > that Singular's biggest strength in this area, is supporting many, > > many implementations > > of different algorithms and m

[sage-devel] Re: the neverending png odyssey

2009-02-06 Thread mabshoff
On Feb 6, 1:47 am, mhampton wrote: > Three cheers! Hooray! Hooray! Hooray! > > I think I've had things related to this crop up several times, and I > am glad you have resolved it (crossing my fingers!). > > -Marshall Well, we are not quite there yet, but if you don't want to do any more develo

[sage-devel] Re: Massively collaborative mathematics + Sage-ready blogs and forums

2009-02-06 Thread Ronan Paixão
> Of course, concerns about security and usability may well restrict the > privileges to a specific subset of Sage's commands and fraction of > server resources. Still, it would be great if Wikipedia entries, say, > could include pertinent, pedagogical "gadgets" to illustrate concepts > which ar

[sage-devel] Re: Multivariate GCD

2009-02-06 Thread parisse
> I think, this would give a good basis. > Actually the Singular group is also interested in a gcd, which also > works for finite, algebraic extensions > of Q and GF(p). > And I would be happy, if they stopped discussing about it behind > closed doors and > actually wasting time, as the efforts co

[sage-devel] Re: the neverending png odyssey

2009-02-06 Thread mhampton
Three cheers! Hooray! Hooray! Hooray! I think I've had things related to this crop up several times, and I am glad you have resolved it (crossing my fingers!). -Marshall On Feb 6, 5:27 am, mabshoff wrote: > Ok, I think I finally fixed the problem: > >  * delete libpng.*, that leaves libpng12.*