> * Hyperelliptic curves -- Sage has nothing really for jacobian over
> number fields, effective Chabauty. Sage also doesn't implement
> the
> analytic Jacobians package from Magma.
>
> PROJECT: Make the group law on hyperelliptic Jacobians very fast.
Two comments: the patch at http:
William mentioned an area dear to my heart:
On Jun 5, 10:47 pm, William Stein wrote:
> * Magma's linear algebra over p-adics is better than in Sage.
>
> PROJECT: Design and implement good algorithms for linear algebra over
> p-adics (subtle and interesting research area).
>
There is actually s
I realize you are trying to keep it concise, but I have 2 suggestions
for geometry and interfaces:
geometry:
p = polytopes.twenty_four_cell()
show(p.render_wireframe(), frame = False)
and interfaces (Gfan):
r3. = PolynomialRing(QQ,3)
vort_ideal = r3.ideal([-6*x*y*z+x*y+x*z+6*y*z-y^2-z^2, -6*x*y
I had two failures on an intel mac running 10.4 (for rc2):
sage -t "devel/sage/sage/numerical/optimize.py"
sage -t "devel/sage/sage/symbolic/relation.py"
The relation.py failures:
sage -t "devel/sage/sage/symbolic/relation.py"
*
Hi Sage-Devel,
This email will focus entirely on functionality present in Magma that
is not available in Sage. We will almost entirely ignore questions of
efficiency for this email.
We follow the magma "Handbook" Version 2.15 from December 2008.
http://magma.maths.usyd.edu.au/magma/htmlhelp/MA
2009/6/5 kcrisman :
>
>
>> due to a *major* bug in the tinyMCE integration, which anybody who has
>> seriously used the SAge notebook has run into. Nobody has come up
>> with a clean test case though. My worksheet is unfortunately
>> completely scrambled, and I'll have to spend an hour sorting i
> due to a *major* bug in the tinyMCE integration, which anybody who has
> seriously used the SAge notebook has run into. Nobody has come up
> with a clean test case though. My worksheet is unfortunately
> completely scrambled, and I'll have to spend an hour sorting it
> through. Jason, since
2009/6/5 William Stein :
> 2009/6/5 Jason Grout :
>>
>> simon.k...@uni-jena.de wrote:
>>> On 6 Jun., 00:18, simon.k...@uni-jena.de wrote:
> In the matrix Module:
> "The matrix module is anothe huge module" (missing an r on "another")
And note that there are two sections entitles "Matr
2009/6/5 Rob Beezer :
>
> I particularly like the suggestions for projects, which at first
> blush, look like they are geared to an undergraduate audience. I
> suspect there are folks with the ability and inclination to contribute
> to Sage, but they don't always have a good idea where to start.
2009/6/5 Jason Grout :
>
> simon.k...@uni-jena.de wrote:
>> On 6 Jun., 00:18, simon.k...@uni-jena.de wrote:
In the matrix Module:
"The matrix module is anothe huge module" (missing an r on "another")
>>> And note that there are two sections entitles "Matrix" and two
>>> sections entitled
simon.k...@uni-jena.de wrote:
> On 6 Jun., 00:18, simon.k...@uni-jena.de wrote:
>>> In the matrix Module:
>>> "The matrix module is anothe huge module" (missing an r on "another")
>> And note that there are two sections entitles "Matrix" and two
>> sections entitled "Media". I guess the first vers
I think your email went unanswered due to a lack of time and the
relatively few people who know the notebook (compared to the rest of
Sage). This is a rather open-ended question, but there are several
different ways in which the notebook could be used. Here's my
immediate thoughts:
1) The
On 6 Jun., 00:18, simon.k...@uni-jena.de wrote:
> > In the matrix Module:
>
> > "The matrix module is anothe huge module" (missing an r on "another")
>
> And note that there are two sections entitles "Matrix" and two
> sections entitled "Media". I guess the first version of "Media" is a
> mistake,
> In the matrix Module:
>
> "The matrix module is anothe huge module" (missing an r on "another")
And note that there are two sections entitles "Matrix" and two
sections entitled "Media". I guess the first version of "Media" is a
mistake, and the two versions of "Matrix" should be merged.
Cheers
On Jun 5, 3:06 pm, Jason Grout wrote:
> In some sense, the "State of Sage" annual address or something?
Are you able to read my inner-most thoughts? ;-) Pretty much what
went through my mind as I wrote that.
Might also be a useful place to go when there is a need to be reminded
of recent prog
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 8:04 AM, Rob Beezer wrote:
>
> I particularly like the suggestions for projects, which at first
> blush, look like they are geared to an undergraduate audience. I
> suspect there are folks with the ability and inclination to contribute
> to Sage, but they don't always have
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 2:56 PM, Golam Mortuza
Hossain wrote:
> I guess, it shouldn't be difficult to typeset the expression as earlier
> even with the new format. We just need to parse it differently.
>
> Could you please give some clue on how exactly the typesetting with new
> symbolics are suppo
Hi William,
On 5 Jun., 21:26, William Stein wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've posted a new version of the "grand tour" that has all 39 sections
> filled in.
>
> http://480.sagenb.org/home/pub/46/
There seems something wrong in the Category part:
C = VectorSpaces(RR); C
Category of vector spaces over Re
Rob Beezer wrote:
> I particularly like the suggestions for projects, which at first
> blush, look like they are geared to an undergraduate audience. I
> suspect there are folks with the ability and inclination to contribute
> to Sage, but they don't always have a good idea where to start. So
>
I've downloaded gcc 4.4.0 with a view to building this to try to get rid
of the internal compiler bug on the T2.
I looked at an install.log of one of my builds of Sage using the Solaris
binaries from Micheal and see the compiler was configured with:
GCC Version
gcc -v
Using built-in specs.
Ta
I particularly like the suggestions for projects, which at first
blush, look like they are geared to an undergraduate audience. I
suspect there are folks with the ability and inclination to contribute
to Sage, but they don't always have a good idea where to start. So
including these suggestions
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 6:25 PM, Mike Hansen wrote:
>> IMO, it is alright if GiNaC uses this particular format for internal
>> processing.
>> However, printing the output (either the raw or the typeset version) in the
>> new
>> format ("D[0](f)") is at best confusing.
>
> It's not just a matter o
Dr David Kirkby wrote:
>
>
> On Jun 5, 8:48 am, Dan Drake wrote:
>> Note that right now, building Sage fails on that machine with an
>> internal compiler error -- the Fortran compiler fails. There's a partial
>> build in /scratch/drake if you want to see an install log.
>>
>> Dan
>>
>> --
>> -
William Stein wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've posted a new version of the "grand tour" that has all 39 sections
> filled in.
>
> http://480.sagenb.org/home/pub/46/
>
In the matrix Module:
"The matrix module is anothe huge module" (missing an r on "another")
This is fantastic! Thanks for posting it!
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Golam Mortuza
Hossain wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Mike Hansen wrote:
>>
>>> D[0](f) seems strange when there is only one argument.
>>
>> f could be a function of many variables.
>>
>>> I still hate the notation. It's also fairly non-stand
Hi Mike,
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Mike Hansen wrote:
>
>> D[0](f) seems strange when there is only one argument.
>
> f could be a function of many variables.
>
>> I still hate the notation. It's also fairly non-standard notation. At
>> least in Maple, it's mostly optional. Some functions r
Hi Burcin,
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 12:39 PM, Burcin Erocal wrote:
>> (3) symbolic "diff" now returns a rather incomprehensible output
>> ---
>> f(x) = function('f',x)
>> diff(f(x),x)
>> D[0](f)(x)
>> ---
>> What does that '0' really means? Typeset version also looks similar.
>
> This is a
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Tim Lahey wrote:
> Sorry, it's slightly different than the Maple notation, which I
> often forget since I don't use it.
Maybe I'm missing something, but it seems that it's exactly the same
as what's here http://www.maplesoft.com/support/help/view.aspx?path=D
.
>
On Jun 5, 2009, at 3:28 PM, Mike Hansen wrote:
>
> This is not what the notation means. D[0](f) represented the the
> derivative of f with respect to the first argument. D[0,0](f)
> represents taking the derivative with respect to that argument twice.
> Thus, you can have expressions like
>
>
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 6:09 AM, Minh Nguyen wrote:
> Hi Georg,
>
> On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 6:01 AM, gsw wrote:
>>
>
>
>
>> Since (the Sage review process and) the Sage release process have been
>> pretty stable for more than a year now, this should go right into a
>> new chapter in the Sage Devel
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Tim Lahey wrote:
> I hate this notation in Maple, but it's pretty much optional. Plus,
> while
> I understand using 0-based indexing, the numbers have a particular
> meaning
> for derivatives, so 0 doesn't make sense for a first derivative. The 0th
> derivative is
2009/6/5 Tim Lahey :
>
>
> On Jun 5, 2009, at 3:14 PM, Robert Bradshaw wrote:
>
>>
>> On Jun 5, 2009, at 8:39 AM, Burcin Erocal wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, 5 Jun 2009 09:37:07 -0300
>>> Golam Mortuza Hossain wrote:
>>>
>>>
(3) symbolic "diff" now returns a rather incomprehensible output
Hi,
I've posted a new version of the "grand tour" that has all 39 sections
filled in.
http://480.sagenb.org/home/pub/46/
William
2009/6/5 William Stein :
> Hi,
>
> I'm writing a Sage "grand tour" worksheet with one section for each of
> the 39 main modules in SAGE_ROOT/devel/sage/sage/. For
On Jun 5, 2009, at 3:14 PM, Robert Bradshaw wrote:
>
> On Jun 5, 2009, at 8:39 AM, Burcin Erocal wrote:
>
>>
>> On Fri, 5 Jun 2009 09:37:07 -0300
>> Golam Mortuza Hossain wrote:
>>
>>>
>>
>>> (3) symbolic "diff" now returns a rather incomprehensible output
>>> ---
>>> f(x) = function('f',x
On Jun 5, 2009, at 8:39 AM, Burcin Erocal wrote:
>
> Hi Golam,
>
> On Fri, 5 Jun 2009 09:37:07 -0300
> Golam Mortuza Hossain wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> It seems, recent switch to new symbolics has caused several
>> typesetting regressions in sage-4.0 (compared 3.4.*).
>
> Some of these are mentioned
Sourav recently experienced this same problem on sage.math -- I
figured it was because the sage build failed, but now I'm thinking
that a bug may have been introduced when dsage was moved into a spkg.
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 11:54 AM, William Stein wrote:
>
> 2009/6/5 Dr David Kirkby :
>>
>>
>>
>>
2009/6/5 Dr David Kirkby :
>
>
>
> On Jun 5, 8:48 am, Dan Drake wrote:
>> On Fri, Jun 5 2009 12:37 am, William Stein wrote:
>> > Have you got an account on t2.math.washington.edu yet? If so, it
>> > would be *extremely* useful if you could build Sage there (I haven't
>> > yet!), since then I cou
On Jun 5, 8:48 am, Dan Drake wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 5 2009 12:37 am, William Stein wrote:
> > Have you got an account on t2.math.washington.edu yet? If so, it
> > would be *extremely* useful if you could build Sage there (I haven't
> > yet!), since then I could directly debug this notebook probl
Bill Page wrote:
> Jason,
>
> Perhaps this Axiom code might be of some use? The generic coding style
> is rather similar to the way Python is used in Sage.
>
> http://axiom-wiki.newsynthesis.org/JetLUDecomposition
Thanks!
Jason
--
Jason Grout
--~--~-~--~~~--
2009/6/5 Robert Bradshaw :
>
> On Jun 5, 2009, at 2:15 AM, William Stein wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm writing a Sage "grand tour" worksheet with one section for each of
>> the 39 main modules in SAGE_ROOT/devel/sage/sage/. For each, there is
>> a quick summary of what it is about and where it com
On Jun 5, 8:39 am, Burcin Erocal wrote:
> > (4) Spurious latex code(?):
>
> > When I keep "Typeset" checkbox checked and I click on the
> > output then I get some spurious latex code
> > "\newcommand{\Bold}[1]{\mathbf{#1}}" for every output. This is not
> > present in 3.4 -
> > var('mu')
> >
William Stein wrote:
> 2009/6/4 Mike Hansen :
>> Hello,
>>
>> Now that sage.math is back up, I've cut rc0 and put it in
>> /home/mhansen/sage-4.0.1.rc0.tar. All tests passed on sage.math.
>>
sage-4.0.1.rc2 built fine and all tests passed on Fedora 9 and 10, 32 bit.
Jaap
--~--~-~--~--
Hi Golam,
On Fri, 5 Jun 2009 09:37:07 -0300
Golam Mortuza Hossain wrote:
> Hi,
>
> It seems, recent switch to new symbolics has caused several
> typesetting regressions in sage-4.0 (compared 3.4.*).
Some of these are mentioned here:
http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/6211
It would b
I noticed
"Here's a benchmark where we see that Pynac is much faster than ECL-
based Maxima at a simple task. Maxima-based symbolics were even
slower, because before 4.0 they used clisp (so 5 times slower), and
the benchmark below doesn't count parsing output, which Maxima-based
symbolics did."
Jason,
Perhaps this Axiom code might be of some use? The generic coding style
is rather similar to the way Python is used in Sage.
http://axiom-wiki.newsynthesis.org/JetLUDecomposition
Regards,
Bill Page.
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 5:46 PM, Jason Grout wrote:
>
> If I were to attempt to add LU d
On 64-bit Fedora 10, I see the same html failure as previous reported,
and no other failures.
Kiran
On Jun 5, 1:24 am, "Justin C. Walker" wrote:
> On Jun 4, 2009, at 13:18 , William Stein wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 1:04 PM, Kiran Kedlaya
> > wrote:
> [snip]
> > There's now a
Yoav Aner wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> This is my first post. My name is Yoav, and I'm studying for an
> Information Security MSc at Royal Holloway, University of London. I'm
> starting to work on a project proposed by Martin Albrecht, to look at
> several security aspects of the Sage Notebook server.
Hi,
It seems, recent switch to new symbolics has caused several
typesetting regressions in sage-4.0 (compared 3.4.*).
Here are the list of regressions which I have encountered so far.
(1) Typesetting of sec(x), csc(x), cot(x) are broken. It puts an
extra "\mbox" around them unlike for sin, co
Hi Yoav,
you didn't offend anyone or anything like that. I guess everybody is just very
busy right now and thus your mail remained unanswered.
> Could anybody please suggest what's the best way to work out (map) the
> software architecture of sage in terms of:
>
> Software components/objects
>
I'm still rather lost to be honest and in need of some guidance.
Could anybody please suggest what's the best way to work out (map) the
software architecture of sage in terms of:
Software components/objects
Interfaces (User interfaces, functional specifications, object
relationship/hierarchy)
Da
before i forget, while looking at the database section, http://www.pytables.org/
comes to my mind and there is no trac ticket for it. Maybe we should
include it?
besides that i'll write you some lines about numerical optimization.
h
--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
To post t
Hi William,
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 7:15 PM, William Stein wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm writing a Sage "grand tour" worksheet with one section for each of
> the 39 main modules in SAGE_ROOT/devel/sage/sage/. For each, there is
> a quick summary of what it is about and where it comes from, then a
> shor
On Jun 5, 2009, at 2:15 AM, William Stein wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm writing a Sage "grand tour" worksheet with one section for each of
> the 39 main modules in SAGE_ROOT/devel/sage/sage/. For each, there is
> a quick summary of what it is about and where it comes from, then a
> short discussion fo
Hi,
I'm writing a Sage "grand tour" worksheet with one section for each of
the 39 main modules in SAGE_ROOT/devel/sage/sage/. For each, there is
a quick summary of what it is about and where it comes from, then a
short discussion fo where it is going next, followed by a couple of
examples. You
2009/6/5 Dr. David Kirkby :
>
> Dan Drake wrote:
>> On Fri, Jun 5 2009 12:37 am, William Stein wrote:
>>> Have you got an account on t2.math.washington.edu yet? If so, it
>>> would be *extremely* useful if you could build Sage there (I haven't
>>> yet!), since then I could directly debug this not
William Stein wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 12:48 AM, Dan Drake wrote:
>> On Fri, Jun 5 2009 12:37 am, William Stein wrote:
>>> Have you got an account on t2.math.washington.edu yet? If so, it
>>> would be *extremely* useful if you could build Sage there (I haven't
>>> yet!), since then I coul
Dan Drake wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 5 2009 12:37 am, William Stein wrote:
>> Have you got an account on t2.math.washington.edu yet? If so, it
>> would be *extremely* useful if you could build Sage there (I haven't
>> yet!), since then I could directly debug this notebook problem.
>
> Note that right
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 12:48 AM, Dan Drake wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 5 2009 12:37 am, William Stein wrote:
>> Have you got an account on t2.math.washington.edu yet? If so, it
>> would be *extremely* useful if you could build Sage there (I haven't
>> yet!), since then I could directly debug this noteb
On Fri, Jun 5 2009 12:37 am, William Stein wrote:
> Have you got an account on t2.math.washington.edu yet? If so, it
> would be *extremely* useful if you could build Sage there (I haven't
> yet!), since then I could directly debug this notebook problem.
Note that right now, building Sage fails on
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