Re: [sage-devel] Re: vote on moving Sage's IRC channel over to #sagemath

On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 4:33 AM, Peter Jeremy wrote: > On 2010-Jun-07 10:12:33 +0200, Fredrik Johansson > wrote: >>I've heard good things about OFTC. > > I'll second that.  Myself and a couple of friends have been monitoring > a channel on OFTC for the last four months and it seems quite stable.

Re: [sage-devel] Standalone SageNotebook

On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 2:00 PM, Robert Bradshaw wrote: > On Jun 7, 2010, at 1:53 PM, Bill Page wrote: > >> Once upon a time there was >> >> http://code.google.com/p/spdproject/ >> >> "Source Python Distribution (SPD) is a Python distribution and many >> optional (mainly scientific) packages. Every

[sage-devel] Progress on obtaining 3D plot data files?

Late last year there were a series of posts (in sage-edu) about getting 3d data from sage that could be used by a stand-alone jmol webpage to display a 3d math graphic. I was excited to try the example listed in the original posting (see below). Has any progress been made on getting sage to gener

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.4.4.alpha0 released / build reports

Ubuntu 9.04 x86 (Pentium4 Prescott, gcc 4.3.3): make build: OK make doc: OK make ptestlong: OK (All tests passed.) (Built with CFLAGS="-march=native -fno-strict-aliasing".) Ubuntu 9.04 x86_64 (Core2, gcc 4.3.3): make build: OK make doc: OK make ptestlong: OK (All tests passed.) (Built with CF

[sage-devel] matplotlib is reading old system headers, in preference to Sage ones.

When matplot lib builds on 't2', it says: BUILDING MATPLOTLIB matplotlib: 0.99.1 python: 2.6.4 (r264:75706, Jun 5 2010, 17:43:53) [GCC 4.4.1] platform: sunos5 REQUIRED DEPENDENCIES numpy: 1.3.0 free

Re: [sage-devel] Portability question...

On Jun 7, 2010, at 06:12 , Florent Hivert wrote: Hi there, I've question concerning handling of hash value vs portability. Is sage developer guide manual one can read: Here is the definition of __hash__ from the Python reference manual. Called for the key object for di

Re: [sage-devel] Portability question...

On Mon, Jun 07, 2010 at 02:37:27PM -0700, Robert Bradshaw wrote: > On Jun 7, 2010, at 6:12 AM, Florent Hivert wrote: > >> Hi there, >> >> I've question concerning handling of hash value vs portability. Is sage >> developer guide manual one can read: >> >>Here is the definition of __hash_

Re: [sage-devel] Portability question...

On Jun 7, 2010, at 6:12 AM, Florent Hivert wrote: Hi there, I've question concerning handling of hash value vs portability. Is sage developer guide manual one can read: Here is the definition of __hash__ from the Python reference manual. Called for the key object for di

[sage-devel] Portability question...

Hi there, I've question concerning handling of hash value vs portability. Is sage developer guide manual one can read: Here is the definition of __hash__ from the Python reference manual. Called for the key object for dictionary operations, and by the built-in functi

Re: [sage-devel] Standalone SageNotebook

On Jun 7, 2010, at 1:53 PM, Bill Page wrote: Once upon a time there was http://code.google.com/p/spdproject/ "Source Python Distribution (SPD) is a Python distribution and many optional (mainly scientific) packages. Everything fully builds from source on any platform (any linux, Mac OS X, clus

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.4.4.alpha0 released

Mike Hansen wrote: Hi folks, Sage 4.4.4.alpha0 has been released. With the exception of a few more patches, I think this should be pretty close to final. On Fedora 12, 64 bit on i7 860: Build ok: -- All tests passed! Timing

Re: [sage-devel] Standalone SageNotebook

On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 1:53 PM, Bill Page wrote: > Once upon a time there was > > http://code.google.com/p/spdproject/ > > "Source Python Distribution (SPD) is a Python distribution and many > optional (mainly scientific) packages. Everything fully builds from > source on any platform (any linux,

Re: [sage-devel] Inclusion of external library and compatibility between licenses ...

On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 1:52 PM, Nathann Cohen wrote: >> That's just not going to happen. > > So a spkg ? Or, just convince the author to license the code GPLv2+. That shouldn't be so hard. -- William > > Nathann > > -- > To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com

Re: [sage-devel] Standalone SageNotebook

Once upon a time there was http://code.google.com/p/spdproject/ "Source Python Distribution (SPD) is a Python distribution and many optional (mainly scientific) packages. Everything fully builds from source on any platform (any linux, Mac OS X, clusters and soon windows). It is based on Sage, bu

Re: [sage-devel] Inclusion of external library and compatibility between licenses ...

> That's just not going to happen. So a spkg ? Nathann -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-d

Re: [sage-devel] Inclusion of external library and compatibility between licenses ...

On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 1:37 PM, Robert Bradshaw wrote: > On Jun 7, 2010, at 1:23 PM, Nathann Cohen wrote: > >>> Well, there's a technical and legal question here. On a technical note, >>> it's >>> better to put the C files in an spkg and then link to them from the Sage >>> library rather than chec

Re: [sage-devel] Inclusion of external library and compatibility between licenses ...

On Jun 7, 2010, at 1:23 PM, Nathann Cohen wrote: Well, there's a technical and legal question here. On a technical note, it's better to put the C files in an spkg and then link to them from the Sage library rather than check external code into the Sage library itself. (If you want help mak

Re: [sage-devel] Inclusion of external library and compatibility between licenses ...

> How small? > > In some case putting code in the sage library makes very good sense, > and in others it doesn't. ~$ wc -l dm.c dm_english.h random.c 1296 dm.c 117 dm_english.h 149 random.c 1562 total ~$ random.c is not really needed, actually. It just contains examples. Nathann -- To po

Re: [sage-devel] Inclusion of external library and compatibility between licenses ...

On Monday, June 7, 2010, Nathann Cohen wrote: >> Well, there's a technical and legal question here. On a technical note, it's >> better to put the C files in an spkg and then link to them from the Sage >> library rather than check external code into the Sage library itself. (If >> you want help ma

Re: [sage-devel] Inclusion of external library and compatibility between licenses ...

> Well, there's a technical and legal question here. On a technical note, it's > better to put the C files in an spkg and then link to them from the Sage > library rather than check external code into the Sage library itself. (If > you want help making an spkg, I'd be happy to do that.) H ^^;

Re: [sage-devel] Inclusion of external library and compatibility between licenses ...

On Jun 7, 2010, at 12:45 PM, Nathann Cohen wrote: Hello everybody I have exchanged several email with Fabien de Montgolfier, who wrote a C implementation [1] of an algorithm computing the modular decomposition of a graph [2]. Since then, I have been writing an interface between Sage and th

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.4.4.alpha0 released / build reports

On 7 Jun., 19:28, Mike Hansen wrote: > Hi folks, > > Sage 4.4.4.alpha0 has been released.  With the exception of a few more > patches, I think this should be pretty close to final. Ubuntu 9.04 x86_64 (Core2, gcc 4.5.0): make build: OK make doc: OK make ptestlong: OK (All tests passed.) (Built w

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.4.4.alpha0 released

Hello, On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 12:10 PM, Simon King wrote: > I wonder whether #8972 has a chance to make it into sage-4.4.4. There > is a partial review of Robert Bradshaw, but further changes had been > necessary afterwards. > > Perhaps a quick review is possible? > > The patches that I had poste

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.4.4.alpha0 released

Hi Robert, On 7 Jun., 21:45, Robert Bradshaw wrote: > Nice. Did you do multiple runs? Not yet. I am now upgrading to sage-4.4.3, try whether the patches still apply, and then I can run it multiple times. > Given my initial reviews were not thorough enough (not that I didn't   > bring up quite a

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.4.4.alpha0 released

On Jun 7, 2010, at 12:10 PM, Simon King wrote: On 7 Jun., 19:28, Mike Hansen wrote: Hi folks, Sage 4.4.4.alpha0 has been released. With the exception of a few more patches, I think this should be pretty close to final. I wonder whether #8972 has a chance to make it into sage-4.4.4. Ther

[sage-devel] Inclusion of external library and compatibility between licenses ...

Hello everybody I have exchanged several email with Fabien de Montgolfier, who wrote a C implementation [1] of an algorithm computing the modular decomposition of a graph [2]. Since then, I have been writing an interface between Sage and this C code [3], and discussing with Minh and him possi

Re: [sage-devel] Parallel testing with >8 threads

On 06/ 7/10 07:21 PM, Minh Nguyen wrote: Hi David, On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 2:55 AM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: Either I'm doing it wrong, or the code which is supposed to let one run ptestlong with>8 threads is not working. Each time it reports I have: 1) Set NUM_THREADS=100 in 'makefile' 2) Ex

[sage-devel] Re: Standalone SageNotebook

On Jun 7, 11:36 am, Ralf Hemmecke wrote: > Hello, > > The for the source code repository onhttp://nb.sagemath.org/points to > > sage -hg pullhttp://boxen.math.washington.edu:8100 > sage -hg update > ../sage -python setup.py install > > But running > > hg clonehttp://boxen.math.washington.edu:8100

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.4.4.alpha0 released

On 7 Jun., 19:28, Mike Hansen wrote: > Hi folks, > > Sage 4.4.4.alpha0 has been released.  With the exception of a few more > patches, I think this should be pretty close to final. I wonder whether #8972 has a chance to make it into sage-4.4.4. There is a partial review of Robert Bradshaw, but fu

Re: [sage-devel] Standalone SageNotebook

On 07.06.2010 20:36, Ralf Hemmecke wrote: Hello, The for the source code repository on http://nb.sagemath.org/ points to sage -hg pull http://boxen.math.washington.edu:8100 sage -hg update ../sage -python setup.py install But running hg clone http://boxen.math.washington.edu:8100 results in

[sage-devel] Re: sage windows instructions

Also the file name indicates that it is not only an old version of Sage, but even an alpha-version... On Jun 7, 6:58 am, Jason Grout wrote: > On the website:http://sagemath.org/download-windows.html > > it says that we need VirtualBox, which is old information, as the image > is now a VMWare imag

[sage-devel] Standalone SageNotebook

Hello, The for the source code repository on http://nb.sagemath.org/ points to sage -hg pull http://boxen.math.washington.edu:8100 sage -hg update ../sage -python setup.py install But running hg clone http://boxen.math.washington.edu:8100 results in abort: error: Connection refused 1) Is the

Re: [sage-devel] Parallel testing with >8 threads

Hi David, On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 2:55 AM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > Either I'm doing it wrong, or the code which is supposed to let one run > ptestlong with >8 threads is not working. Each time it reports > > I have: > > 1) Set NUM_THREADS=100 in 'makefile' > 2) Exported NUM_THREADS=100 as an env

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-release] Sage 4.4.4.alpha0 released

How can I say ? GREAT O_O Nathann -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URL: http://www.sagem

[sage-devel] Sage 4.4.4.alpha0 released

Hi folks, Sage 4.4.4.alpha0 has been released. With the exception of a few more patches, I think this should be pretty close to final. * Source tarball: http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/release/sage-4.4.4.alpha0/sage-4.4.4.alpha0.tar * sage.math binary: http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/

[sage-devel] Parallel testing with >8 threads

Either I'm doing it wrong, or the code which is supposed to let one run ptestlong with >8 threads is not working. Each time it reports I have: 1) Set NUM_THREADS=100 in 'makefile' 2) Exported NUM_THREADS=100 as an environment variable. Neither seem to work, but instead I see: Doctesting 2518

[sage-devel] Re: [sympy] Re: ANN: mpmath 0.15 released

On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 1:00 AM, Fredrik Johansson wrote: > On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 4:18 AM, Ondrej Certik wrote: >> >> Will it be possible to also use it outside of Sage? E.g. I guess if >> you do "setup.py install" in mpmath, that it would compile the Cython >> codes and install it? That'd be rea

[sage-devel] Re: ANN: mpmath 0.15 released

Hmm, interesting. So the sorts of issues I imagined, don't in fact occur. Thanks for the response. Looking forward to seeing what you get done over the summer! Bill. On Jun 7, 3:05 pm, Fredrik Johansson wrote: > On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Bill Hart wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Fredrik, > > >

[sage-devel] Re: sage windows instructions

VirtualBox can import VMware virtual machines, so the documentation should probably amended to say that either is fine. Volker On Jun 7, 1:58 pm, Jason Grout wrote: > On the website:http://sagemath.org/download-windows.html > > it says that we need VirtualBox, which is old information, as the i

Re: [sage-devel] Re: ANN: mpmath 0.15 released

On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Bill Hart wrote: > Hi Fredrik, > > Congratulations. That looks fantastic. > > I see you now even have elliptic functions! > > Can I ask you a question. I haven't been following your blog (but > should have). Perhaps you can point me to a post if you already deal > w

[sage-devel] Re: ANN: mpmath 0.15 released

Hi Fredrik, Congratulations. That looks fantastic. I see you now even have elliptic functions! Can I ask you a question. I haven't been following your blog (but should have). Perhaps you can point me to a post if you already deal with this somewhere. However, I am interested to know how you deal

[sage-devel] sage windows instructions

On the website: http://sagemath.org/download-windows.html it says that we need VirtualBox, which is old information, as the image is now a VMWare image: http://boxen.math.washington.edu/sage/win/index.html Thanks, Jason -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com

[sage-devel] Re: What shall we do about ATLAS?

For the ebuild you may take a look at http://sources.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/gentoo-x86/sci-libs/blas-atlas/blas-atlas-3.9.23.ebuild?revision=1.1&view=markup , which is the ebuild for 3.9.23 (there are newer ebuilds, but they contain patches which most likely fail). If you are not used to ebu

Re: [sage-devel] Free PC to Phone Calls ANY WHERE

Poster has been banned, message reported and deleted. Sorry for the spam. On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 7:34 AM, john geor wrote: > Free PC to Phone Calls ANY WHERE > > Click > > -- > To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to

[sage-devel] Free PC to Phone Calls ANY WHERE

Free PC to Phone Calls ANY WHERE Click -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For

Re: [sage-devel] Re: vote on moving Sage's IRC channel over to #sagemath

On 2010-Jun-07 10:12:33 +0200, Fredrik Johansson wrote: >I've heard good things about OFTC. I'll second that. Myself and a couple of friends have been monitoring a channel on OFTC for the last four months and it seems quite stable. Being able to immediately register users and channels is a defi

Re: [sage-devel] What shall we do about ATLAS?

On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 3:15 AM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > On 06/ 7/10 10:22 AM, François Bissey wrote: Thoughts? >>> >>> I am personally all for updating to the beta version of ATLAS. >>> >> We are currently using 3.9.23 in sage-on-gentoo without any >> issues. The only reason we don't u

Re: [sage-devel] What shall we do about ATLAS?

On 06/ 7/10 11:23 AM, François Bissey wrote: On 06/ 7/10 10:22 AM, François Bissey wrote: Thoughts? I am personally all for updating to the beta version of ATLAS. We are currently using 3.9.23 in sage-on-gentoo without any issues. The only reason we don't use 3.9.24 is that the person who us

Re: [sage-devel] What shall we do about ATLAS?

> On 06/ 7/10 10:22 AM, François Bissey wrote: > >>> Thoughts? > >> > >> I am personally all for updating to the beta version of ATLAS. > > > > We are currently using 3.9.23 in sage-on-gentoo without any > > issues. The only reason we don't use 3.9.24 is that the person > > who usually does the r

Re: [sage-devel] What shall we do about ATLAS?

On 06/ 7/10 10:22 AM, François Bissey wrote: Thoughts? I am personally all for updating to the beta version of ATLAS. We are currently using 3.9.23 in sage-on-gentoo without any issues. The only reason we don't use 3.9.24 is that the person who usually does the revbump is "away" atm. Francoi

Re: [sage-devel] What shall we do about ATLAS?

> > Thoughts? > > I am personally all for updating to the beta version of ATLAS. > We are currently using 3.9.23 in sage-on-gentoo without any issues. The only reason we don't use 3.9.24 is that the person who usually does the revbump is "away" atm. Francois -- To post to this group, send an e

Re: [sage-devel] What shall we do about ATLAS?

On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 1:56 AM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > ATLAS in Sage is rather old, with there being many more recent beta > releases. > > ATLAS development has not stopped, but I understand from Clint (the main > developer), that he has other commitments which means he will spend less > time o

[sage-devel] What shall we do about ATLAS?

ATLAS in Sage is rather old, with there being many more recent beta releases. ATLAS development has not stopped, but I understand from Clint (the main developer), that he has other commitments which means he will spend less time on ATLAS for a while. So there are not going to be any new stable

Re: [sage-devel] Re: vote on moving Sage's IRC channel over to #sagemath

On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 9:40 AM, William Stein wrote: > > > I suggest that Sage just find a different IRC server. > > Any suggestions? > I've heard good things about OFTC. Fredrik -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an ema

Re: [sage-devel] Re: vote on moving Sage's IRC channel over to #sagemath

On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 12:30 AM, Peter Jeremy wrote: > On 2010-Jun-05 17:02:07 -0700, Harald Schilly > wrote: >>> which I believe he is the channel operator >>true, and some others are, too. >> >>On Jun 5, 3:03 pm, Volker Braun wrote: >>> The system in place to officially register a channel nam

Re: [sage-devel] Re: vote on moving Sage's IRC channel over to #sagemath

On 2010-Jun-05 17:02:07 -0700, Harald Schilly wrote: >> which I believe he is the channel operator >true, and some others are, too. > >On Jun 5, 3:03 pm, Volker Braun wrote: >> The system in place to officially register a channel name is described >> here:http://freenode.net/group_registration.sh