Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Matrix of a permutation

2010-07-17 Thread Jason B. Hill
Can you clarify this a bit? Obviously, there's a difference between the product of matrices of permutations and the matrix of the product of permutations. That is, they are 'reversed.' But, multiplication in the matrices is not the same operation as the one imposed on the elements from a group.

Re: [sage-devel] ATLAS - proposal to allow a threaded build.

2010-07-17 Thread Martin Albrecht
How does this sound. 1) We add an environment variable SAGE_ATLAS_THREADS 2) If unset, then the behavior is unchanged, so we build an unthreaded ATLAS. 3) If set to auto: $ export SAGE_ATLAS_THREADS=auto then we let ATLAS automatically determine the number of threads. (I think that is

[sage-devel] new talk: The Development of Symbolic Calculus in Sage

2010-07-17 Thread William Stein
http://wstein.org/talks/stein-sd24/stein-sd24.pdf -- William Stein Professor of Mathematics University of Washington http://wstein.org -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to

Re: [sage-devel] new talk: The Development of Symbolic Calculus in Sage

2010-07-17 Thread Martin Rubey
William Stein wst...@gmail.com writes: http://wstein.org/talks/stein-sd24/stein-sd24.pdf world domination has a very intimidating (naziesque) connotation for me (I do not think only for me, but I cannot know). Sage is great, but that makes me shiver. Martin -- To post to this group, send an

[sage-devel] Nasty arithmetic bug for polynomials over non-prime finite fields

2010-07-17 Thread Craig Citro
Hi all, I just hit this zinger: {{{ sage: polygen(GF(49, 'a')) ; polygen(GF(9, 'a')) x x sage: x = polygen(GF(49, 'a')) sage: -x 2*x sage: x + 0 x sage: -x 6*x }}} This is definitely still present in sage-4.5 (at least, William tried it on his laptop and said he hit it). The underlying issue is

[sage-devel] Re: sage is getting big

2010-07-17 Thread Harald Schilly
On Jul 17, 8:36 am, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: flat:sage wstein$ find . -print |grep pyx\|pxi\|pxd\|.py$ | xargs  cat |wc -l   948712 flat:sage wstein$ find . -print |grep pyx\|pxi\|pxd\|.py$ | xargs cat |sort|uniq|wc -l   453612 Would be interesting to distinguish between

Re: [sage-devel] ATLAS - proposal to allow a threaded build.

2010-07-17 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 07/17/10 07:20 AM, Martin Albrecht wrote: How does this sound. 1) We add an environment variable SAGE_ATLAS_THREADS 2) If unset, then the behavior is unchanged, so we build an unthreaded ATLAS. 3) If set to auto: $ export SAGE_ATLAS_THREADS=auto then we let ATLAS automatically determine

Re: [sage-devel] new talk: The Development of Symbolic Calculus in Sage

2010-07-17 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 07/17/10 07:50 AM, William Stein wrote: http://wstein.org/talks/stein-sd24/stein-sd24.pdf Point #7 about why you don't like Magma may be true. The developer community might be too small, and there may be no public mailing list. But to say the same is true of Maple - (Similar remarks

[sage-devel] cvxopt will always reports it successfully installed, even if it failed.

2010-07-17 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
The last line of the spkg-install of cvxopt is: python setup.py install That's two I've found this week (cephes and cvxopt), which will always report Successfully installed $package_name when in fact they might have failed to install. This is now

Re: [sage-devel] new talk: The Development of Symbolic Calculus in Sage

2010-07-17 Thread William Stein
On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Dr. David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net wrote: On 07/17/10 07:50 AM, William Stein wrote: http://wstein.org/talks/stein-sd24/stein-sd24.pdf Point #7 about why you don't like Magma may be true. The developer community might be too small, and there may be no

Re: [sage-devel] new talk: The Development of Symbolic Calculus in Sage

2010-07-17 Thread Thierry Dumont
Le 17/07/2010 09:22, Martin Rubey a écrit : William Steinwst...@gmail.com writes: http://wstein.org/talks/stein-sd24/stein-sd24.pdf Reading this document, I was, among many things, very interested by the 2012 horizon (Sage 7.0) and specially by the Engineering projects. I am interested

[sage-devel] Re: ATLAS - proposal to allow a threaded build.

2010-07-17 Thread Robert Miller
With the rest of the packages, we just do export MAKE=make -j6 to enable parallel building. Why don't we just use this in atlas as well? Why do we need to make a special case? -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email

Re: [sage-devel] Re: ATLAS - proposal to allow a threaded build.

2010-07-17 Thread William Stein
On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 1:16 PM, Robert Miller rlmills...@gmail.com wrote: With the rest of the packages, we just do export MAKE=make -j6 to enable parallel building. Why don't we just use this in atlas as well? Why do we need to make a special case? I think the OP was suggesting building

Re: [sage-devel] Re: ATLAS - proposal to allow a threaded build.

2010-07-17 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 07/17/10 12:32 PM, William Stein wrote: On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 1:16 PM, Robert Millerrlmills...@gmail.com wrote: With the rest of the packages, we just do export MAKE=make -j6 to enable parallel building. Why don't we just use this in atlas as well? Why do we need to make a special case?

Re: [sage-devel] Re: ATLAS - proposal to allow a threaded build.

2010-07-17 Thread William Stein
On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 2:03 PM, Dr. David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net wrote: On 07/17/10 12:32 PM, William Stein wrote: On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 1:16 PM, Robert Millerrlmills...@gmail.com  wrote: With the rest of the packages, we just do export MAKE=make -j6 to enable parallel

[sage-devel] Should 'nose' be in Sage?

2010-07-17 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
'nose' aids testing of python packages. Metesh Patel suggested I used it yesterday, to resolve a problem. But one has to download it, since it is not a standard package in Sage. If one looks as the spkg-check sqlalchemy-0.5.8/spkg-check we can see it does absolutely nothing, as it has in it:

[sage-devel] graph_plot.py : Image width or height is zero in IHDR

2010-07-17 Thread Robert Miller
Although http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/5906 was supposed to eliminate this problem for good, sometimes random (i.e. spring-layout) algorithms seem to trigger it, in particular when a short path happens to get put into a straight vertical or horizontal line. What surprises me is that

Re: [sage-devel] new talk: The Development of Symbolic Calculus in Sage

2010-07-17 Thread John Cremona
I'm interested in your C++ psarse matrix class based on std::map, since I have one too (and it is in Sage in the eclib spkg). If you type CremonaModularSymbols(12345) they are being used. John On 17 July 2010 10:03, Thierry Dumont tdum...@math.univ-lyon1.fr wrote: Le 17/07/2010 09:22, Martin

Re: [sage-devel] Re: ATLAS - proposal to allow a threaded build.

2010-07-17 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 07/17/10 01:07 PM, William Stein wrote: On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 2:03 PM, Dr. David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net wrote: On 07/17/10 12:32 PM, William Stein wrote: On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 1:16 PM, Robert Millerrlmills...@gmail.com wrote: With the rest of the packages, we just do

[sage-devel] Re: new talk: The Development of Symbolic Calculus in Sage

2010-07-17 Thread Harald Schilly
On Jul 17, 11:03 am, Thierry Dumont tdum...@math.univ-lyon1.fr wrote: 2) For the ODEs, ... (even if written in f77)... I don't know their work but I think there is nothing wrong with f77 for this type of problem. Do you know f2py [1]? Shouldn't be too hard to wrap their f77 functions in

Re: [sage-devel] Re: new talk: The Development of Symbolic Calculus in Sage

2010-07-17 Thread Thierry Dumont
Le 17/07/2010 15:18, Harald Schilly a écrit : On Jul 17, 11:03 am, Thierry Dumonttdum...@math.univ-lyon1.fr wrote: 2) For the ODEs, ... (even if written in f77)... I don't know their work but I think there is nothing wrong with f77 for this type of problem. Do you know f2py [1]? Shouldn't

Re: [sage-devel] new talk: The Development of Symbolic Calculus in Sage

2010-07-17 Thread Francesco Biscani
On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Thierry Dumont tdum...@math.univ-lyon1.fr wrote: 2) For the ODEs, the best and the most *modern* methods are there: http://www.unige.ch/~hairer/software.html H. Hairer, G. Wanner, C. Lubich are among the best specialist of numerical methods for ODE and their

[sage-devel] Is givaro related to R?

2010-07-17 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
In the spkg-check file for givaro, it says: make check if [ $? -ne 0 ]; then echo Error while running the R testsuite ... exiting exit 1 fi Is this as I expect, a simple typo, or is it true? Dave -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe

Re: [sage-devel] Re: multivariate polynomial multiplication, division, GCD, factorization

2010-07-17 Thread William Stein
Hi, I put my experimental giac spkg here: http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/wstein/patches/giac-20100717.spkg To build it you have to sage -f -m giac-20100717. Then sage -sh, then delete the file it complains about (repeat, lather), type make install, etc. Note that there are a *ton

[sage-devel] Re: multivariate polynomial multiplication, division, GCD, factorization

2010-07-17 Thread parisse
After installing enough latex packages so that the docs seemed to build, my build still fails here: ln: creating symbolic link `/scratch/wstein/build/sage-4.4.4/local/share/giac/doc/aide_cas': File exists Indeed, the command in the Makefile should be ln -sf instead of ln -s, I will fix

[sage-devel] Re: multivariate polynomial multiplication, division, GCD, factorization

2010-07-17 Thread parisse
Hi, It seems the original source is stored in a src subdirectory and you added the shell script spkg-install and the readme SPKG.txt file, is there any other changes? -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to

Re: [sage-devel] Re: multivariate polynomial multiplication, division, GCD, factorization

2010-07-17 Thread William Stein
On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 6:02 PM, parisse bernard.pari...@ujf-grenoble.fr wrote: Hi, It seems the original source is stored in a src subdirectory and you added the shell script spkg-install and the readme SPKG.txt file, is there any other changes? Nope, that's all it is. spkg's are really

[sage-devel] Is there a reason for GSL to be 3 years old?

2010-07-17 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
I just noticed a problem with the version of gsl in Sage. The exit code of the Makefile is not tested, so if there are test failures, it does not cause the build to stop like it does with other packages. (It reports an error, but does not exit). However, I decided to have a look at the GSL

Re: [sage-devel] Is there a reason for GSL to be 3 years old?

2010-07-17 Thread William Stein
On Saturday, July 17, 2010, Dr. David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net wrote: I just noticed a problem with the version of gsl in Sage. The exit code of the Makefile is not tested, so if there are test failures, it does not cause the build to stop like it does with other packages. (It reports

Re: [sage-devel] About mpmath and sympy

2010-07-17 Thread Paulo César Pereira de Andrade
2010/7/17 François Bissey f.r.bis...@massey.ac.nz: As an aside, if two upstream packages include another upstream package (e.g. both include GMP) what does Sage do? Are there two copies of GMP? They could have different versions of the same package since project 1 could have stopped at one

Re: [sage-devel] graph_plot.py : Image width or height is zero in IHDR

2010-07-17 Thread Carl Witty
On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 5:57 AM, Robert Miller r...@rlmiller.org wrote: Although http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/5906 was supposed to eliminate this problem for good, sometimes random (i.e. spring-layout) algorithms seem to trigger it, in particular when a short path happens to

[sage-devel] sage-4.5 final build failure of 'gd' on sage.math

2010-07-17 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
I've just tried to build Sage in parallel on sage.math and got an error when installing 'gd'. http://boxen.math.washington.edu/home/kirkby/gd-2.0.35.p5.log ** Configuration summary for gd 2.0.35: Support for PNG library: yes Support for JPEG library: no Support for

Re: [sage-devel] sage-4.5 final build failure of 'gd' on sage.math

2010-07-17 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 07/17/10 11:12 PM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: I've just tried to build Sage in parallel on sage.math and got an error when installing 'gd'. http://boxen.math.washington.edu/home/kirkby/gd-2.0.35.p5.log This just failed again for me. I've not bothered saving the log, but are going to rebuild

Re: [sage-devel] Bug in matrix constructor?

2010-07-17 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 08:49:03PM -0700, Mike Hansen wrote: On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 7:54 PM, Nicolas M. Thiery nicolas.thi...@u-psud.fr wrote: Should I file a ticket? http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/9344 which has a positive review. Great, thanks! I guess I screwed up my trac

Re: [sage-devel] Re: IDE's; science/engineering

2010-07-17 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 12:42:53AM -0700, Maurizio wrote: By the way, some time ago we managed to run spyder letting it use the sage console as interpreter, which was kind of fun, but never used it extensively. Did you keep a log of what exactly you did to achieve this? After seeing an

Re: [sage-devel] Is there a reason for GSL to be 3 years old?

2010-07-17 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 07/17/10 06:23 PM, William Stein wrote: On Saturday, July 17, 2010, Dr. David Kirkbydavid.kir...@onetel.net wrote: I just noticed a problem with the version of gsl in Sage. The exit code of the Makefile is not tested, so if there are test failures, it does not cause the build to stop like

Re: [sage-devel] Univ of Washington postdoc job(s)

2010-07-17 Thread Ondrej Certik
On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 7:16 AM, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Sage-Devel, Amazingly, University of Washington has = 1 postdoc jobs starting in 2011.  It's a very competitive position, and pays pretty well. Anyway, here is the job ad:            

[sage-devel] Re: Univ of Washington postdoc job(s)

2010-07-17 Thread rjf
I wouldn't call this a postdoc. It is non-tenure track position that requires teaching. The blurb doesn't mention how much teaching or how much money. Actually, the ad doesn't call it a postdoc either. RJF On Jul 17, 7:16 am, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Sage-Devel, Amazingly,

Re: [sage-devel] Univ of Washington postdoc job(s)

2010-07-17 Thread François Bissey
On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 7:16 AM, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Sage-Devel, Amazingly, University of Washington has = 1 postdoc jobs starting in 2011. It's a very competitive position, and pays pretty well. Anyway, here is the job ad: