Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage works on OS X 10.7!

On 2012-02-13 18:55, William Stein wrote: > It fails in *exactly* the same way for me on my laptop. William (or somebody else), could you pack the whole $SAGE_ROOT/spkg/build/gcc-4.6.2 directory in a tarball for me such that I can have a look at log files? Also send me $SAGE_ROOT/spkg/logs/gcc-4.

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage works on OS X 10.7!

On 2012-02-13 19:05, John H Palmieri wrote: > I posted the same failure two days ago to the relevant trac ticket, > > . Not the same failure, your failure on #12369 was an "internal compiler error: segmentation fault" -- To post to this group, s

Re: [sage-devel] Re: GSOC 2012

On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 13:34, rjf wrote: > On Feb 13, 6:10 pm, Dima Pasechnik wrote: >> > (RJF) This is not a problem if you drop the requirement that every >> > recipient >> > of Sage must be able to COMPILE stuff locally.  Just have one person >> > compile the stuff once and distribute dll fi

[sage-devel] Re: GSOC 2012

On Monday, February 13, 2012 9:34:17 PM UTC-8, rjf wrote: > > shame on you for turning your back on what is still the > most wide-spread operating system (or family of systems) on home > and office computers. > The most common home computer is a game console. While techincally an XBox is a win

[sage-devel] Re: GSOC 2012

On Feb 13, 6:10 pm, Dima Pasechnik wrote: . > > GMP and MPFR is only a small part of the story. There are huge packages > in Sage (not developed by Sage people) that do not run natively under > Windows and are quite non-trivial to port (as they might have their own > tricky GC, use fork and

[sage-devel] Re: Question about system dependencies policy...

On Feb 12, 7:04 pm, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > If anyone is seriously interested in the reverse proxy solution, I can > make sure that it works with the new notebook. Yes please! A reverse proxy would be by far the best way to run Sage securely and would integrate better on machines serving othe

[sage-devel] Re: Sage works on OS X 10.7!

On Monday, February 13, 2012 6:16:18 PM UTC-8, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > In gmane.comp.mathematics.sage.devel, you wrote: > > --=_Part_1067_3756437.1329162569160 > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > > > On Monday, February 13, 2012 10:05:56 AM UTC-8, John H Palmieri wrote: > >

Re: [sage-devel] Re: doctest weirdness

> > I was positive we had some way to run doctests on external files based on > what they defined. I just tried a test and it didn't seem to work. I know > there has been discussion in the past about how to get doctests in external > files working well. > Yeah, this should work in external files.

[sage-devel] Re: Sage works on OS X 10.7!

In gmane.comp.mathematics.sage.devel, you wrote: > --=_Part_1067_3756437.1329162569160 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > On Monday, February 13, 2012 10:05:56 AM UTC-8, John H Palmieri wrote: >> >> Or is there something about the laptop architecture which is causing the >> pro

[sage-devel] Re: GSOC 2012

In gmane.comp.mathematics.sage.devel, you wrote: > > > On Feb 13, 12:51 am, "Dr. David Kirkby" > wrote: >> On 02/12/12 03:06 PM, rjf wrote: >> >> >   Microsoft and Google/Motorola are suing each other. >> > Do you get money from Microsoft? >> > Just a thought. >> >> > You could propose to Google t

[sage-devel] Re: doctest weirdness

On 2/13/12 3:12 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: On 02/13/12 15:46, R. Grout wrote: so if the doctest framework doesn't do imports, do I have to import everything I use in each doctest? There is some[1] magic, but I gather this was a new file? Unless you add your module to sage.all somehow, "from s

[sage-devel] Re: doctest weirdness

Thanks! I'll import each thing and hope it works. On Feb 13, 2:12 pm, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 02/13/12 15:46, R. Grout wrote: > > > so if the doctest framework doesn't do imports, do I have to import > > everything I use in each doctest? > > There is some[1] magic, but I gather this was a n

Re: [sage-devel] Want to run a patchbot?

On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 at 03:30PM -0800, Robert Bradshaw wrote: > Thanks for trying it out. > > If sandpile.py *always* times out on you rmachine, this is the > expected behavior. It does always timeout. The regular doctests take 1300 seconds for sandpile.py! I need to figure out what's going on the

Re: [sage-devel] Want to run a patchbot?

Thanks for trying it out. If sandpile.py *always* times out on you rmachine, this is the expected behavior. I think at this point manual intervention is required. Or was there something else you were thinking it should do (because clearly you were surprised, which isn't the intent). - Robert On

[sage-devel] Re: Sage works on OS X 10.7!

On Feb 13, 5:13 pm, John H Palmieri wrote: > On Monday, February 13, 2012 11:49:29 AM UTC-8, Volker Braun wrote: > > > On Monday, February 13, 2012 10:05:56 AM UTC-8, John H Palmieri wrote: > > >> Or is there something about the laptop architecture which is causing the > >> problem? > > > It wou

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage works on OS X 10.7!

On Monday, February 13, 2012 11:49:29 AM UTC-8, Volker Braun wrote: > > On Monday, February 13, 2012 10:05:56 AM UTC-8, John H Palmieri wrote: >> >> Or is there something about the laptop architecture which is causing the >> problem? >> > > It would be useful if people would post the output of "

[sage-devel] Discussion with Guido van Rossum and (hopefully) core python-dev on scientific Python and Python3

Hi folks, [ I'm broadcasting this widely for maximum reach, but I'd appreciate it if replies can be kept to the *numpy* list, which is sort of the 'base' list for scientific/numerical work. It will make it much easier to organize a coherent set of notes later on. Apology if you're subscribed to

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Question about system dependencies policy...

On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 20:34:40 + "Dr. David Kirkby" wrote: > On 02/13/12 05:19 PM, Keshav Kini wrote: > > If I understand correctly, William's point is that simply placing a > > copy of the GPL, with a version number attached or otherwise, with a > > "or any later version" included or otherwise

Re: [sage-devel] Re: doctest weirdness

On 02/13/12 15:46, R. Grout wrote: > so if the doctest framework doesn't do imports, do I have to import > everything I use in each doctest? There is some[1] magic, but I gather this was a new file? Unless you add your module to sage.all somehow, "from sage.all import *" won't pull it in. You can

[sage-devel] Re: doctest weirdness

so if the doctest framework doesn't do imports, do I have to import everything I use in each doctest? On Feb 13, 12:10 pm, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 02/13/12 13:51, Ryan wrote: > > > #this test case will pass > > def TestCase1(): > >     r''' > >         Examples:: > > >             sage: asci

Re: [sage-devel] doctest weirdness

On Monday, February 13, 2012 11:16:54 AM UTC-8, William wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 11:10 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > > On 02/13/12 13:51, Ryan wrote: > >> #this test case will pass > >> def TestCase1(): > >> r''' > >> Examples:: > >> > >> sage: ascii() > >>

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Question about system dependencies policy...

On 02/13/12 05:19 PM, Keshav Kini wrote: If I understand correctly, William's point is that simply placing a copy of the GPL, with a version number attached or otherwise, with a "or any later version" included or otherwise, in the program's source code is not equivalent to a declaration of licens

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage works on OS X 10.7!

On Monday, February 13, 2012 10:05:56 AM UTC-8, John H Palmieri wrote: > > Or is there something about the laptop architecture which is causing the > problem? > It would be useful if people would post the output of "uname -a" with the success/failure reports in this thread. -- To post to this

Re: [sage-devel] doctest weirdness

On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 11:10 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 02/13/12 13:51, Ryan wrote: >> #this test case will pass >> def TestCase1(): >>     r''' >>         Examples:: >> >>             sage: ascii() >>             'abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz' >> >>     ''' >>     pass > > > Nesting single q

Re: [sage-devel] doctest weirdness

On 02/13/12 13:51, Ryan wrote: > #this test case will pass > def TestCase1(): > r''' > Examples:: > > sage: ascii() > 'abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz' > > ''' > pass Nesting single quotes like this is bound to fail in surprising ways. This test is

[sage-devel] doctest weirdness

Hi, I was recently working with some doctests and noticed the following weirdness.  Any idea as to what might be going on.  I've tested this with sage 4.8 and 5.0. The issue seems to be with the use of double triple quotes vs single triple quotes for the doctest.  I'm not sure why it makes a diff

[sage-devel] Re: aleph.sagemath.org

On 2/13/12 9:31 AM, Andrey Novoseltsev wrote: Alex and Jason - thanks for tracking down and fixing problems so quickly! I'm using such interacts for in-class demonstrations and publish worksheets for students, but as I don't have much time to actually "explain Sage" and not many students ask que

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage works on OS X 10.7!

On Monday, February 13, 2012 9:55:43 AM UTC-8, William wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 8:51 AM, entropy wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > This is wonderful news. So great, that I tried to compile > > sage-5.0beta3 on my OS X 10.7.2 laptop. Sadly, it threw an error while > > attempting to compile gcc4

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage works on OS X 10.7!

On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 8:51 AM, entropy wrote: > Hi all, > > This is wonderful news. So great, that I tried to compile > sage-5.0beta3 on my OS X 10.7.2 laptop. Sadly, it threw an error while > attempting to compile gcc4.6.2. Hopefully someone may have more > expertise than me.  Below is the bott

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Question about system dependencies policy...

On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Keshav Kini wrote: > If I understand correctly, William's point is that simply placing a > copy of the GPL, with a version number attached or otherwise, with a > "or any later version" included or otherwise, in the program's source > code is not equivalent to a dec

[sage-devel] Re: sphinx role for trac in the doc...

Hi Florent, On 11 Feb., 01:14, Florent Hivert wrote: > I just added the following feature to sphinx in Sage: In the doc, putting > :trac:`5534` adds a link to the trac ticket #5534. I think it's worth > advertising so that it will be used more. As Nathann asked, I also added a > :wikipedia: for w

[sage-devel] Re: GSOC 2012

On Feb 13, 12:51 am, "Dr. David Kirkby" wrote: > On 02/12/12 03:06 PM, rjf wrote: > > >   Microsoft and Google/Motorola are suing each other. > > Do you get money from Microsoft? > > Just a thought. > > > You could propose to Google to port Sage to run on Windows/ natively, > > not. > > I believ

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Question about system dependencies policy...

If I understand correctly, William's point is that simply placing a copy of the GPL, with a version number attached or otherwise, with a "or any later version" included or otherwise, in the program's source code is not equivalent to a declaration of licensing under the GPL of a particular version,

Re: [sage-devel] sphinx role for trac in the doc...

On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 01:14:41AM +0100, Florent Hivert wrote: > Hi there, > > I just added the following feature to sphinx in Sage: In the doc, putting > :trac:`5534` adds a link to the trac ticket #5534. I think it's worth > advertising so that it will be used more. As Nathann asked, I al

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Question about system dependencies policy...

On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 9:00 AM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > On 02/13/12 04:32 PM, William Stein wrote: >> >> On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 7:42 AM, Dr. David Kirkby >>> >>> But currently SPKG.txt and COPYING state version 2 only. >>> >>> >>> SPKG.txt for Mercurial states >>> >>> "== License == >>>  * GNU

[sage-devel] Re: GSOC 2012

On Feb 12, 7:12 am, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 02/12/2012 01:33 AM, John H Palmieri wrote: > > > I can see it getting hairy if we try to generalize periodic functions, > too, but period/interval are easy enough to work with. There are a whole bunch of challenging problems, though in many case

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage works on OS X 10.7!

On 02/13/12 04:51 PM, entropy wrote: Hi all, This is wonderful news. So great, that I tried to compile sage-5.0beta3 on my OS X 10.7.2 laptop. Sadly, it threw an error while attempting to compile gcc4.6.2. Hopefully someone may have more expertise than me. Below is the bottom of the build log w

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Question about system dependencies policy...

On 02/13/12 04:32 PM, William Stein wrote: On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 7:42 AM, Dr. David Kirkby But currently SPKG.txt and COPYING state version 2 only. SPKG.txt for Mercurial states "== License == * GNU General Public License version 2, or any later version " but the COPYING file does not sta

[sage-devel] Re: Sage works on OS X 10.7!

Hi all, This is wonderful news. So great, that I tried to compile sage-5.0beta3 on my OS X 10.7.2 laptop. Sadly, it threw an error while attempting to compile gcc4.6.2. Hopefully someone may have more expertise than me.  Below is the bottom of the build log with the error. I'm running XCode 4.1.

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Question about system dependencies policy...

On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 12:51 PM, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: > On 2012-02-11 17:54, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: >> I believe the license of Sage is very dubious at best > I will say it more strongly: Sage *is* violating the GPL by distributing > GPLv3-only packages (such as cvxopt) under a GPLv2+ licence.

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Question about system dependencies policy...

On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 7:42 AM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > > On 02/13/12 12:58 PM, William Stein wrote: >> >> On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 3:35 AM, Dr. David Kirkby >>  wrote: >>> >>> On 02/13/12 11:18 AM, Jason Grout wrote: On 2/13/12 4:17 AM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > > >

Re: [sage-devel] small MAX_MODULUS in modular matrix charpoly computation

On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 6:49 AM, John Cremona wrote: > I was trying to find eigenspaces of a 26x26 matrix over Q(zeta_11) > (for a modular forms application) and ran into: > > RuntimeError: we ran out of primes in multimodular charpoly algorithm > > which on investigation led me to the following l

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Question about system dependencies policy...

On 02/13/12 12:58 PM, William Stein wrote: On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 3:35 AM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: On 02/13/12 11:18 AM, Jason Grout wrote: On 2/13/12 4:17 AM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: Since some of packages will not have the "or later version" added into the license, we can't distribute S

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Question about system dependencies policy...

On 02/12/12 20:39, Keshav Kini wrote: > Please report issues for the new notebook at > http://github.com/sagemath/sagenb ! Thanks :) Thanks, I made this issue #38: https://github.com/sagemath/sagenb/issues/38 -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscrib

[sage-devel] Re: aleph.sagemath.org

Alex and Jason - thanks for tracking down and fixing problems so quickly! I'm using such interacts for in-class demonstrations and publish worksheets for students, but as I don't have much time to actually "explain Sage" and not many students ask questions if posted instructions are unclear, I'd r

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sagenb.org restarted

Yup, works now. Thanks! :) -Keshav Join us in #sagemath on irc.freenode.net ! -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Question about system dependencies policy...

On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 04:58:49 -0800 William Stein wrote: > On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 3:35 AM, Dr. David Kirkby > wrote: > > On 02/13/12 11:18 AM, Jason Grout wrote: > >> > >> On 2/13/12 4:17 AM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > >>> > >>> Since some of packages will not have the "or later version" added >

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sagenb.org restarted

On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 6:30 AM, Keshav Kini wrote: > I don't see any change. Sagenb is once again thinking about the first ten > factorials and has been doing so for over two minutes now. I've restarted > the worksheet as well, just in case... > sage starts up fine for the sagenbws -- maybe the

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sagenb.org restarted

I don't see any change. Sagenb is once again thinking about the first ten factorials and has been doing so for over two minutes now. I've restarted the worksheet as well, just in case... -Keshav Join us in #sagemath on irc.freenode.net ! -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-de

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sagenb.org restarted

On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 6:16 AM, Jason Grout wrote: > On 2/13/12 8:05 AM, Keshav Kini wrote: >> >> It seems to me that something is wrong again. Sagenb has been thinking >> about [factorial(x) for x in range(10)] for several minutes. > > > This is in the error logs: > >        exceptions.RuntimeEr

[sage-devel] Re: sagenb.org restarted

On 2/13/12 8:05 AM, Keshav Kini wrote: It seems to me that something is wrong again. Sagenb has been thinking about [factorial(x) for x in range(10)] for several minutes. This is in the error logs: exceptions.RuntimeError: Pexpect: pty.fork() failed: [Errno 12] Cannot allocate memory

[sage-devel] Re: sagenb.org restarted

It seems to me that something is wrong again. Sagenb has been thinking about [factorial(x) for x in range(10)] for several minutes. -Keshav -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroup

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Question about system dependencies policy...

On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 3:35 AM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > On 02/13/12 11:18 AM, Jason Grout wrote: >> >> On 2/13/12 4:17 AM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: >>> >>> Since some of packages will not have the "or later version" added into >>> the license, we can't distribute Sage as GPL 3 or even "GPL 2 or

[sage-devel] Re: aleph.sagemath.org

On 2/12/12 6:56 PM, Alex Kramer wrote: On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 7:21 PM, Andrey Novoseltsev wrote: First of all, thanks for awesome work! I've tried to use it for a couple of my interacts (which work fine in unpatched Sage-4.8): http://www.math.ualberta.ca/~novoseltsev/2012Winter215R1/test1 htt

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Question about system dependencies policy...

On 02/13/12 11:18 AM, Jason Grout wrote: On 2/13/12 4:17 AM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: Since some of packages will not have the "or later version" added into the license, we can't distribute Sage as GPL 3 or even "GPL 2 or any later version", since some of the components don't have the "or any lat

Re: [sage-devel] hg.sagemath.org, examples repo

On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 19:29, Minh Nguyen wrote: > Here's the script to start up hg.sagemath.org, i.e. a web interface to > Mercurial repositories: > > http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/sagemath/wiki/sage-hg/start > > Here's the configuration script for the web interface: > > http://sage.math.

Re: [sage-devel] Want to run a patchbot?

Hmm, my patchbot install does not seem to work so well. See the attached log. On my machine, sandpile.py *always* times out. I will try running the patchbot with a longer SAGE_TIMEOUT, but perhaps it should recover a bit more gracefully from this situation. (Assuming the timeout caused the excepti

Re: [sage-devel] hg.sagemath.org, examples repo

Hi Keshav, On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 10:19 PM, Keshav Kini wrote: > Thanks for the fix! If you can somehow give me read access to > /home/sagemath/wiki on boxen I can take a look at the script. Here's the script to start up hg.sagemath.org, i.e. a web interface to Mercurial repositories: http://s

Re: [sage-devel] hg.sagemath.org, examples repo

Hi William, On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 10:13 PM, Minh Nguyen wrote: > On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Keshav Kini wrote: >> Can whoever has control over hg.sagemath.org please add the base repo there? > > Done. See > > http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/sagemath/wiki/sage-hg/hg/sage-root/ > > B

Re: [sage-devel] hg.sagemath.org, examples repo

On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 19:13, Minh Nguyen wrote: > But note that I do not know how to update the site hg.sagemath.org to > reflect this new repo. > > @Harald > Any ideas?  Do I need to first stop a process that controls the site > hg.sagemath.org and then run the start script at > > http://sage.m

[sage-devel] Re: Question about system dependencies policy...

On 2/13/12 4:17 AM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: Since some of packages will not have the "or later version" added into the license, we can't distribute Sage as GPL 3 or even "GPL 2 or any later version", since some of the components don't have the "or any later version". Which packages are those?

Re: [sage-devel] hg.sagemath.org, examples repo

On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 12:13, Minh Nguyen wrote: > @Harald > Any ideas? > sorry, i have no idea how this is supposed to work. h -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For

Re: [sage-devel] hg.sagemath.org, examples repo

Hi Keshav, On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Keshav Kini wrote: > Can whoever has control over hg.sagemath.org please add the base repo there? Done. See http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/sagemath/wiki/sage-hg/hg/sage-root/ But note that I do not know how to update the site hg.sagemath.org t

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Question about system dependencies policy...

On 02/11/12 08:54 PM, Jason Grout wrote: Sage is changing the license for packages? I thought the Sage distribution was GPLv3 because of GPLv3 packages it included. Who said the Sage distribution was GPLv2+? Thanks, Jason We have numerous GPL version 2 only components too, so the truth is th

Re: [sage-devel] Re: GSOC 2012

On 02/12/12 03:06 PM, rjf wrote: Microsoft and Google/Motorola are suing each other. Do you get money from Microsoft? Just a thought. You could propose to Google to port Sage to run on Windows/ natively, not. I believe a complete native port would be an almost impossibility. I don't think m

Re: [sage-devel] hg.sagemath.org, examples repo

On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 16:24, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: > On 2012-02-13 05:50, Keshav Kini wrote: >> Can whoever has control over hg.sagemath.org please add the base repo there? > I guess you mean the root repo. Er, yes. :) On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 16:26, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: > On 2012-02-13 05:50

Re: [sage-devel] hg.sagemath.org, examples repo

On 2012-02-13 05:50, Keshav Kini wrote: > Can whoever has control over hg.sagemath.org please add the base repo there? > > Also, the fact that the examples repo is still being committed to by the > release management script is worrying. That repo was supposed to have > been deleted in 4.7.2.alpha4

Re: [sage-devel] hg.sagemath.org, examples repo

On 2012-02-13 05:50, Keshav Kini wrote: > Can whoever has control over hg.sagemath.org please add the base repo there? I guess you mean the root repo. > Also, the fact that the examples repo is still being committed to by the > release management script is worrying. That repo was supposed to have