On Mar 14, 6:44 am, P Purkayastha wrote:
> On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 4:54:32 AM UTC+8, François wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 01:18:41 P Purkayastha wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 3:41:35 PM UTC+8, Jeroen Demeyer wrote:
> > > > If you do this, you certainly should not restrict yours
On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 22:44:03 P Purkayastha wrote:
On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 4:54:32 AM UTC+8, François wrote:
On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 01:18:41 P Purkayastha wrote:
> On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 3:41:35 PM UTC+8, Jeroen Demeyer wrote:
> > If you do this, you certainly should not restrict yourself t
Hi Leif, hi all,
On 14 Mrz., 05:47, leif wrote:
> ...
> PPL is also part of Sage
But then, GCC can not use CLooG/PPL (I have tried). I was told that it
is because of a missing header.
The header is easy to get, though: The current (standard) ppl spkg
only builds the c++ interface, but not the c
On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 4:54:32 AM UTC+8, François wrote:
>
> On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 01:18:41 P Purkayastha wrote:
> > On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 3:41:35 PM UTC+8, Jeroen Demeyer wrote:
> > > If you do this, you certainly should not restrict yourself to the
> > > Graphite command line options,
On Mar 13, 10:27 am, Simon King wrote:
> Hi Jeroen,
>
> On 13 Mrz., 10:07, Jeroen Demeyer wrote:
>
> > On 2012-03-13 09:59, Simon King wrote:> I have just installed CLooG, and
> > you said that Sage provides PPL.
>
> > Where did you install CLooG?
>
> By "install", I meant "install with Yast" (m
On Wednesday, 14 March 2012 09:07:17 UTC+8, John H Palmieri wrote:
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>
>
> On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 5:11:00 PM UTC-7, Dima Pasechnik wrote:
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>>
>>
>> On Monday, 12 March 2012 06:15:35 UTC+8, Jeroen Demeyer wrote:
>>>
>>> I have made a spkg for GCC (GNU compiler collection) version 4.6.3 with
On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 at 07:39AM -0500, Jason Grout wrote:
> >I just sent a student an email with some links to computations on the
> >single cell server on aleph.sagemath.org. I used the "shortened
> >temporary links" to get something shorter. But how long will those links
> >work?
>
> Those are ju
On Mar 12, 9:58 pm, François Bissey
wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 21:44:21 Jeroen Demeyer wrote:> On 2012-03-12 19:48,
> Volker Braun wrote:
> > > I'm all in favor of adding the gcc spkg.
>
> > > One thing that I'm not entirely happy with is that we bulid gcc without
> > > graphite/ppl/cloog, so I
On Mar 6, 2:35 pm, "Georg S. Weber"
wrote:
> The downside is, that if two (or more) patches collide (which may not
> easily (or shall not) be put in one and the same "series of patches",
> for whatever reason), only one can win --- and all the others have to
> be rebased on the "then next" officia
Quick update:
* http://aleph.sagemath.org is up now, as Jason mentioned.
* Absolutely *none* of the external disks attached to any of the
machines have appeared, so I can only guess something weird happened
with a power strip or something. The impact of this is that the
virtual machine tha
On 3/13/12 10:19 PM, William Stein wrote:
Hi,
We have power, and I've remounted all the disks, RAID arrays, etc.,
and restarted all services that I know how to start. This excludes:
* http://aleph.sagemath.org -- the sage cell server; I know
nothing about how this is configured.
aleph
On Mar 6, 12:31 pm, Jeroen Demeyer wrote:
> On 2012-03-06 12:12, Keshav Kini wrote:
>
> > I don't understand why you need to do this. The merge process should be
> > a one-time thing, right? Isn't that what the merger script is for?
> > Doesn't "preparing a release" basically mean finalizing the l
Hi,
We have power, and I've remounted all the disks, RAID arrays, etc.,
and restarted all services that I know how to start. This excludes:
* http://aleph.sagemath.org -- the sage cell server; I know
nothing about how this is configured.
* the lmfdb database server -- Jon Bober is worki
Hi MPIR devs
Do any of you know what Dima is alluding to below?
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From: Dima Pasechnik
Date: Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:18 AM
Subject: [sage-devel] Re: Upgrading the optional GMP spkg
To: sage-devel@googlegroups.com
On Tuesday, 13 March 2012 21:30:07 UTC+8
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From: Chris Swierczewski
Date: Tuesday, March 13, 2012
Subject: University of Washington servers down?
To: "sagemath-us...@googlegroups.com"
Hello,
The university power plant had a major malfunction. Steam was shooting
everywhere. A good portion of the cam
On Mar 6, 10:52 am, "Georg S. Weber"
wrote:
> honestly, I don't believe that what you describe, are arguments
> against the workflow as such --- but rather arguments against waiting
> for too long before releasing a new official version. Sage 4.7.2 was
> released in last November, Sage 4.8 in Janu
On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 5:11:00 PM UTC-7, Dima Pasechnik wrote:
>
>
>
> On Monday, 12 March 2012 06:15:35 UTC+8, Jeroen Demeyer wrote:
>>
>> I have made a spkg for GCC (GNU compiler collection) version 4.6.3 with
>> compilers for C, C++ and Fortran, see Trac #12369.
>>
>> The GCC spkg depends
On Wednesday, 14 March 2012 08:11:00 UTC+8, Dima Pasechnik wrote:
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>
>
> On Monday, 12 March 2012 06:15:35 UTC+8, Jeroen Demeyer wrote:
>>
>> I have made a spkg for GCC (GNU compiler collection) version 4.6.3 with
>> compilers for C, C++ and Fortran, see Trac #12369.
>>
>> The GCC spkg depends o
On Monday, 12 March 2012 06:15:35 UTC+8, Jeroen Demeyer wrote:
>
> I have made a spkg for GCC (GNU compiler collection) version 4.6.3 with
> compilers for C, C++ and Fortran, see Trac #12369.
>
> The GCC spkg depends on an MPC (multi-precision complex numbers) spkg.
> There has been an optional M
looks bad on my end too!
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Hi!
I just wanted to see at ask.sagemath.org/questions/ whether there is
some new question, but there seems to be a problem: I get
%
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On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 01:18:41 P Purkayastha wrote:
> On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 3:41:35 PM UTC+8, Jeroen Demeyer wrote:
> > If you do this, you certainly should not restrict yourself to the
> > Graphite command line options, you should optimize gcc's flags in
> > general (like adding -march for exam
On Mar 13, 11:18 am, Dima Pasechnik wrote:
> I wish GAP worked with MPIR, but the latter does not provide all the GMP
> calls used by GAP.
> It would be good if these were added...
It would probably be *essential* that these get added if GAP is to
ever run in library mode. I doubt that one can ha
On Tuesday, 13 March 2012 21:30:07 UTC+8, Simon King wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
> I had problems with the optional gmp-4.2.1 spkg. After some half-
> succeeding attempts to fix it, I tried to upgrade the spkg to the
> latest upstream code: It works like a charm (i.e., builds and passes
> self-tests)!
On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 12:49:35 PM UTC-4, Jeroen Demeyer wrote:
>
> On 2012-03-13 17:41, Mark Shimozono wrote:
> > Then I get impatient and control-C it.
> There's your problem. ATLAS can take several hours to build, so you
> just have to wait long enough.
>
Or do
yum install atlas atlas-dev
On 2012-03-13 17:41, Mark Shimozono wrote:
> Then I get impatient and control-C it.
There's your problem. ATLAS can take several hours to build, so you
just have to wait long enough.
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Sorry to be spamming everyone.
I have had very consistent trouble building sage from source:
versions 4.8, 5.0beta7, and 5.0beta8 all failed to build in the same
kind of way.
I can build and run the prepackaged version of
sage-4.8-linux-64bit-fedora_release_15_lovelock_-x86_64-Linux
Any help wi
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 8:30 AM, David Kirkby wrote:
> On 13 March 2012 13:42, Tom Boothby wrote:
>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 6:29 AM, David Kirkby
>> wrote:
>
Two years ago, few would believe that a computer could win Jeopardy,
much less against the best players in recent history.
>>>
On 13 March 2012 13:42, Tom Boothby wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 6:29 AM, David Kirkby wrote:
>>> Two years ago, few would believe that a computer could win Jeopardy,
>>> much less against the best players in recent history.
>>
>> I'm not sure what "Jeopardy" is in this context.
>>
>> I know
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 6:29 AM, David Kirkby wrote:
> On 12 March 2012 01:57, Tom Boothby wrote:
>> On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Dr. David Kirkby
>
>>> I take exception to what he said:
>>>
>>> "It'll probably be related to my goal in the next year or two of making
>>> Mathematica definitiv
On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 9:29:01 PM UTC+8, Dr. David Kirkby wrote:
>
> I'm not sure whta "Jeopardy" is in this context.
>
> I know nobody thought computers would beat humans at chess, but they
> beat the top grandmasters on a regular basis.
>
> But in some ways chess is much easier, as a compute
Hi!
I had problems with the optional gmp-4.2.1 spkg. After some half-
succeeding attempts to fix it, I tried to upgrade the spkg to the
latest upstream code: It works like a charm (i.e., builds and passes
self-tests)!
If someone is interested: #12661 provides a new gmp-5.0.4.spkg
(intended to be
On 12 March 2012 01:57, Tom Boothby wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Dr. David Kirkby
>> I take exception to what he said:
>>
>> "It'll probably be related to my goal in the next year or two of making
>> Mathematica definitively the world's easiest to learn language..."
>
> The man's go
On Tuesday, 13 March 2012 14:31:25 UTC+8, Keshav Kini wrote:
>
> Dima Pasechnik writes:
> > let me put here the fact that I mentioned on the relevant trac ticket,
> that
> > Python 2.7.2 spkg will by default pull Twisted 12 from pypi if it does
> not see
> > it installed.
>
> By the way, why
Hi Jeroen,
On 13 Mrz., 11:43, Jeroen Demeyer wrote:
> You should be able to use MPIR instead of GMP.
I was told by CLooG that it needs GMP.
Independent of that, I wouldn't mind to fix the optional gmp package.
I got it to install work on my openSUSE. Unfortunately, spkg-check
fails, and also I
On 2012-03-13 10:39, Simon King wrote:
>
>
> On 13 Mrz., 10:36, Jeroen Demeyer wrote:
>> On 2012-03-13 10:27, Simon King wrote:> By "install", I meant "install with
>> Yast" (my laptop runs under
>>> openSuse).
>>
>> Does the GCC spkg find it?
>
> No idea yet.
>
> I the last minutes, I tried
Hi!
I created a ticket for the broken (at least on openSuse) optional
gmp-4.2.1 package: #12661.
Cheers,
Simon
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On 13 Mrz., 10:36, Jeroen Demeyer wrote:
> On 2012-03-13 10:27, Simon King wrote:> By "install", I meant "install with
> Yast" (my laptop runs under
> > openSuse).
>
> Does the GCC spkg find it?
No idea yet.
I the last minutes, I tried to follow your advice to install CLooG in
$SAGE_LOCAL. Ho
On 2012-03-13 10:27, Simon King wrote:
> By "install", I meant "install with Yast" (my laptop runs under
> openSuse).
Does the GCC spkg find it?
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Hi Jeroen,
On 13 Mrz., 10:07, Jeroen Demeyer wrote:
> On 2012-03-13 09:59, Simon King wrote:> I have just installed CLooG, and you
> said that Sage provides PPL.
>
> Where did you install CLooG?
By "install", I meant "install with Yast" (my laptop runs under
openSuse).
Cheers,
Simon
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*bump*
This still needs review and is quite important because it is part of a
series of patches to the Sage build process. In particular, the GCC
spkg depends on it.
On 2012-03-02 17:21, Jeroen Demeyer wrote:
> The current code in sage-spkg to determine which package to install and
> whether to
On 2012-03-13 09:59, Simon King wrote:
> I have just installed CLooG, and you said that Sage provides PPL.
Where did you install CLooG? If you install it in $SAGE_ROOT/local,
then it might "just work" if you compile the GCC spkg from #12369.
Check the "configure" part of spkg/logs/gcc-4.6.3 for CL
On 2012-03-13 09:50, Simon King wrote:
> So, can I assume that when I install PPL and CLooG on my machine, then
> my system's gcc would be able to use the loop optimizer? Or would I
> then also need to rebuild gcc?
Yes, you need to rebuild GCC.
> Or: If the user happens to have CLooG, would our gc
Hi Jeroen,
On 13 Mrz., 09:50, Simon King wrote:
> And if I'd like to test something like "-march=native" mentioned by
> Purkayastha, can I set some environment variable such that building a
> Cython extension would be built with -march=native?
Got it: With CFLAGS="-march=native", it seems to wor
Hi Jeroen,
On 13 Mrz., 09:45, Jeroen Demeyer wrote:
> Graphite depends on PPL (which is in Sage) and on CLooG (which is NOT in
> Sage). So, while the Graphite loop optimizer is in GCC, it will not be
> compiled in without these dependencies.
Thank you!
So, can I assume that when I install PPL
On 2012-03-13 09:40, Simon King wrote:
> So, could some expert please elaborate why it is claimed that the gcc
> spkg does *not* come with graphite? I suppose gcc 4.6.3 (provided by
> the spkg) contains graphite, since gcc 4.4 does.
Graphite depends on PPL (which is in Sage) and on CLooG (which is
Hi!
On 13 Mrz., 07:33, Simon King wrote:
> That sounds like
> - We should add graphite/ppl/cloog to the new gcc spkg
Google told me that graphite is in gcc since version 4.4. But from the
comments in this thread I got the impression that graphite is
something that one may or may not have on top
On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 3:41:35 PM UTC+8, Jeroen Demeyer wrote:
>
> If you do this, you certainly should not restrict yourself to the
> Graphite command line options, you should optimize gcc's flags in
> general (like adding -march for example).
>
> Jeroen.
>
If you do set -march, then *-mar
On 2012-03-13 07:33, Simon King wrote:
> - We should see what spkgs would benefit from the additional
> optimization, and let their spkg-install / their makefiles provide the
> relevant gcc command line options
And who is volunteering to do this? Not me. This sounds like something
which can be
Le lundi 12 mars, Simon King a écrit:
> - The spkg should be used not only if the system's gcc has the
> "wrong" version, but also if the system's gcc does not provide
> graphite/ppl/cloog
Is sage a distribution of mathematical software or a distribution?
It's already replicating a good chunk of
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