Re: [sage-cloud] Re: [sage-devel] Typeset output in non-Sage modes in Sage Notebook

2015-04-30 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Thursday, 30 April 2015 10:09:55 UTC+1, Dima Pasechnik wrote: On Wednesday, 29 April 2015 23:17:19 UTC+1, Bill Page wrote: On Apr 29, 2015 7:30 AM, Dima Pasechnik dim...@gmail.com wrote: this patch should go into Sage proper, as it also fixes the same as with SMC issue

Re: [sage-cloud] Re: [sage-devel] Typeset output in non-Sage modes in Sage Notebook

2015-04-30 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Wednesday, 29 April 2015 23:17:19 UTC+1, Bill Page wrote: On Apr 29, 2015 7:30 AM, Dima Pasechnik dim...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: this patch should go into Sage proper, as it also fixes the same as with SMC issue with Sage's notebook. Sure. What is the best

Re: [sage-cloud] Re: [sage-devel] Typeset output in non-Sage modes in Sage Notebook

2015-04-30 Thread Bill Page
I just tested the patch and now I get the following in a Sage worksheet on SMC: axiom.eval()version) 'alue = Axiom Axiom (May 2012) built on Friday July 25, 2014 at 23:34:17 \r\n' %sage from axiom import axiom axiom.eval()version) 'Value = Axiom Axiom (May 2012) built on Friday July 25, 2014

Re: [sage-cloud] Re: [sage-devel] Typeset output in non-Sage modes in Sage Notebook

2015-04-30 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Thursday, 30 April 2015 18:12:00 UTC+1, Bill Page wrote: I just tested the patch and now I get the following in a Sage worksheet on SMC: axiom.eval()version) 'alue = Axiom Axiom (May 2012) built on Friday July 25, 2014 at 23:34:17 \r\n' %sage from axiom import axiom

Re: [sage-cloud] Re: [sage-devel] Typeset output in non-Sage modes in Sage Notebook

2015-04-30 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Thursday, 30 April 2015 17:11:39 UTC+1, Bill Page wrote: On 30 April 2015 at 05:29, Dima Pasechnik dim...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: On Thursday, 30 April 2015 10:09:55 UTC+1, Dima Pasechnik wrote: On Wednesday, 29 April 2015 23:17:19 UTC+1, Bill Page wrote: PPS. if you

Re: [sage-cloud] Re: [sage-devel] Typeset output in non-Sage modes in Sage Notebook

2015-04-30 Thread Bill Page
On 30 April 2015 at 13:34, Dima Pasechnik dimp...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday, 30 April 2015 17:11:39 UTC+1, Bill Page wrote: ... well, for rants we have a special newsgroup called sage-flame. Yes, although I consider what I wrote more of an inconvenient statement of fact so maybe I used the

Re: [sage-cloud] Re: [sage-devel] Typeset output in non-Sage modes in Sage Notebook

2015-04-30 Thread Bill Page
On 30 April 2015 at 13:29, Dima Pasechnik dimp...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday, 30 April 2015 18:12:00 UTC+1, Bill Page wrote: I just tested the patch and now I get the following in a Sage worksheet on SMC: axiom.eval()version) 'alue = Axiom Axiom (May 2012) built on Friday July 25, 2014

Re: [sage-cloud] Re: [sage-devel] Typeset output in non-Sage modes in Sage Notebook

2015-04-30 Thread William Stein
On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 12:34 PM, Bill Page bill.p...@newsynthesis.org wrote: On 30 April 2015 at 13:34, Dima Pasechnik dimp...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday, 30 April 2015 17:11:39 UTC+1, Bill Page wrote: ... well, for rants we have a special newsgroup called sage-flame. Yes, although I

Re: [sage-cloud] Re: [sage-devel] Typeset output in non-Sage modes in Sage Notebook

2015-04-30 Thread Bill Page
On 30 April 2015 at 21:45, kcrisman kcris...@gmail.com wrote: Bill Page wrote: It just occurred to me that for such simple things there should be simple solutions. And I guess there is: Well, that has been discussed a lot. There *is* one possibility now - you can open a pull request at

Re: [sage-cloud] Re: [sage-devel] Typeset output in non-Sage modes in Sage Notebook

2015-04-30 Thread kcrisman
Yes, I guess we do so at our own risk. :) My intention was not to flame but rather just expressing my reaction after reading http://sagemath.org/doc/developer/git_trac.html#chapter-git-trac and considering the possible fate of my 3 line patch if I don't find the time to do things this

Re: [sage-cloud] Re: [sage-devel] Typeset output in non-Sage modes in Sage Notebook

2015-04-30 Thread William Stein
On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 2:52 PM, Bill Page bill.p...@newsynthesis.org wrote: I won't claim that Sage's doctests make Sage have fewer errors or problems than the other systems you use (they surely have their own approaches to testing). However, I absolutely claim -- and I'm sure anybody with

Re: [sage-cloud] Re: [sage-devel] Typeset output in non-Sage modes in Sage Notebook

2015-04-30 Thread Bill Page
On 30 April 2015 at 16:06, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 12:34 PM, Bill Page bill.p...@newsynthesis.org wrote: ... You stated 'that the Sage developer emphasis on doc tests has resulted in any fewer errors or problems in Sage in comparison to other systems.'

Re: [sage-cloud] Re: [sage-devel] Typeset output in non-Sage modes in Sage Notebook

2015-04-30 Thread Bill Page
On 30 April 2015 at 05:29, Dima Pasechnik dimp...@gmail.com wrote: ... I thought that on SMC in a Sage worksheet you can do %axiom and this will call a system-wide Axiom. Currently SMC is hanging for me, so I can't check. OK, one can start axiom in an SMC terminal, by typing axiom it is

Re: [sage-cloud] Re: [sage-devel] Typeset output in non-Sage modes in Sage Notebook

2015-04-30 Thread Bill Page
On 30 April 2015 at 05:29, Dima Pasechnik dimp...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday, 30 April 2015 10:09:55 UTC+1, Dima Pasechnik wrote: On Wednesday, 29 April 2015 23:17:19 UTC+1, Bill Page wrote: PPS. if you really are pressed for time, I can submit this patch instead... Thanks I would

Re: [sage-cloud] Re: [sage-devel] Typeset output in non-Sage modes in Sage Notebook

2015-04-29 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Tuesday, 28 April 2015 21:17:43 UTC+1, Bill Page wrote: On 27 April 2015 at 23:52, Dima Pasechnik dim...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: On Tuesday, 28 April 2015 02:27:21 UTC+1, Bill Page wrote: Yes you are right. The problem was in the original axiom.py. Here is a patch that

Re: [sage-cloud] Re: [sage-devel] Typeset output in non-Sage modes in Sage Notebook

2015-04-29 Thread Bill Page
On Apr 29, 2015 7:30 AM, Dima Pasechnik dimp...@gmail.com wrote: this patch should go into Sage proper, as it also fixes the same as with SMC issue with Sage's notebook. Sure. What is the best way to make that happen? the usual way is via trac.sagemath.org (for instance using git

Re: [sage-cloud] Re: [sage-devel] Typeset output in non-Sage modes in Sage Notebook

2015-04-28 Thread Bill Page
On 27 April 2015 at 23:52, Dima Pasechnik dimp...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday, 28 April 2015 02:27:21 UTC+1, Bill Page wrote: Yes you are right. The problem was in the original axiom.py. Here is a patch that corrects the problem:

Re: [sage-cloud] Re: [sage-devel] Typeset output in non-Sage modes in Sage Notebook

2015-04-27 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Monday, 27 April 2015 15:36:17 UTC+1, William Stein wrote: On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 7:33 AM, Bill Page bill...@newsynthesis.org javascript: wrote: On 27 April 2015 at 10:31, Bill Page bill...@newsynthesis.org javascript: wrote: On 27 April 2015 at 10:23, Dima Pasechnik

Re: [sage-cloud] Re: [sage-devel] Typeset output in non-Sage modes in Sage Notebook

2015-04-27 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Monday, 27 April 2015 15:46:27 UTC+1, Dima Pasechnik wrote: On Monday, 27 April 2015 15:36:17 UTC+1, William Stein wrote: On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 7:33 AM, Bill Page bill...@newsynthesis.org wrote: On 27 April 2015 at 10:31, Bill Page bill...@newsynthesis.org wrote: On 27 April

Re: [sage-cloud] Re: [sage-devel] Typeset output in non-Sage modes in Sage Notebook

2015-04-27 Thread Bill Page
On 27 April 2015 at 00:20, William Stein wst...@sagemath.com wrote: On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 7:49 PM, Bill Page bill.p...@newsynthesis.org wrote: OK, thanks. Any pointers to documentation of modes in the Sage worksheet would be fine too. There's no documentation yet. However, you might find

Re: [sage-cloud] Re: [sage-devel] Typeset output in non-Sage modes in Sage Notebook

2015-04-27 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 7:33 AM, Bill Page bill.p...@newsynthesis.org wrote: On 27 April 2015 at 10:31, Bill Page bill.p...@newsynthesis.org wrote: On 27 April 2015 at 10:23, Dima Pasechnik dimp...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday, 27 April 2015 15:00:30 UTC+1, Bill Page wrote: ... What's a good

Re: [sage-cloud] Re: [sage-devel] Typeset output in non-Sage modes in Sage Notebook

2015-04-27 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Monday, 27 April 2015 15:53:59 UTC+1, Dima Pasechnik wrote: On Monday, 27 April 2015 15:46:27 UTC+1, Dima Pasechnik wrote: On Monday, 27 April 2015 15:36:17 UTC+1, William Stein wrote: On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 7:33 AM, Bill Page bill...@newsynthesis.org wrote: On 27 April 2015

Re: [sage-cloud] Re: [sage-devel] Typeset output in non-Sage modes in Sage Notebook

2015-04-27 Thread Bill Page
On 27 April 2015 at 10:23, Dima Pasechnik dimp...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday, 27 April 2015 15:00:30 UTC+1, Bill Page wrote: ... What's a good way to debug the fricas interface in SageMathCloud? Can I just copy and then import the code into a worksheet? I.e. avoid having to rebuild Sage

Re: [sage-cloud] Re: [sage-devel] Typeset output in non-Sage modes in Sage Notebook

2015-04-27 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Monday, 27 April 2015 15:31:50 UTC+1, Bill Page wrote: On 27 April 2015 at 10:23, Dima Pasechnik dim...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: On Monday, 27 April 2015 15:00:30 UTC+1, Bill Page wrote: ... What's a good way to debug the fricas interface in SageMathCloud? Can I just

Re: [sage-cloud] Re: [sage-devel] Typeset output in non-Sage modes in Sage Notebook

2015-04-27 Thread Bill Page
On 27 April 2015 at 10:31, Bill Page bill.p...@newsynthesis.org wrote: On 27 April 2015 at 10:23, Dima Pasechnik dimp...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday, 27 April 2015 15:00:30 UTC+1, Bill Page wrote: ... What's a good way to debug the fricas interface in SageMathCloud? Can I just copy and then

Re: [sage-cloud] Re: [sage-devel] Typeset output in non-Sage modes in Sage Notebook

2015-04-27 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 7:53 AM, Dima Pasechnik dimp...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday, 27 April 2015 15:46:27 UTC+1, Dima Pasechnik wrote: On Monday, 27 April 2015 15:36:17 UTC+1, William Stein wrote: On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 7:33 AM, Bill Page bill...@newsynthesis.org wrote: On 27 April

Re: [sage-cloud] Re: [sage-devel] Typeset output in non-Sage modes in Sage Notebook

2015-04-27 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Monday, 27 April 2015 15:00:30 UTC+1, Bill Page wrote: On 27 April 2015 at 00:20, William Stein wst...@sagemath.com javascript: wrote: On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 7:49 PM, Bill Page bill...@newsynthesis.org javascript: wrote: OK, thanks. Any pointers to documentation of modes in

Re: [sage-cloud] Re: [sage-devel] Typeset output in non-Sage modes in Sage Notebook

2015-04-27 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Tuesday, 28 April 2015 02:27:21 UTC+1, Bill Page wrote: On 27 April 2015 at 12:31, Dima Pasechnik dim...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: ... On Monday, 27 April 2015 17:23:50 UTC+1, Bill Page wrote: On the original point of this thread: Is there anything wrong with just

Re: [sage-cloud] Re: [sage-devel] Typeset output in non-Sage modes in Sage Notebook

2015-04-27 Thread Bill Page
On 27 April 2015 at 12:31, Dima Pasechnik dimp...@gmail.com wrote: ... On Monday, 27 April 2015 17:23:50 UTC+1, Bill Page wrote: On the original point of this thread: Is there anything wrong with just grabbing the 'fricas.py' source from somewhere, changing it, and then importing it into an

Re: [sage-cloud] Re: [sage-devel] Typeset output in non-Sage modes in Sage Notebook

2015-04-27 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Monday, 27 April 2015 16:00:15 UTC+1, help wrote: On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 7:53 AM, Dima Pasechnik dim...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: On Monday, 27 April 2015 15:46:27 UTC+1, Dima Pasechnik wrote: On Monday, 27 April 2015 15:36:17 UTC+1, William Stein wrote: On

Re: [sage-cloud] Re: [sage-devel] Typeset output in non-Sage modes in Sage Notebook

2015-04-27 Thread Dima Pasechnik
it seems that the current SMC quota settings do not allow this on an ordinary project. At least I was unable to untar the sage binary into a relatively empty project (project id: 42c646bc-c7fc-41d8-b50d-efc995e3cd08) On Monday, 27 April 2015 15:36:18 UTC+1, William wrote: On Mon, Apr 27,

Re: [sage-cloud] Re: [sage-devel] Typeset output in non-Sage modes in Sage Notebook

2015-04-27 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 8:11 AM, Dima Pasechnik dimp...@gmail.com wrote: That won't be available for long. how about having an SMC-only filestore or an http server for this kind of things? (just to save bandwidth...) Maybe later -- I don't know. Harald tried posting binaries and paying for

Re: [sage-cloud] Re: [sage-devel] Typeset output in non-Sage modes in Sage Notebook

2015-04-27 Thread Bill Page
On 27 April 2015 at 12:00, William Stein wst...@sagemath.com wrote: ... SMC won't be able to provide that sort of hosting for free, that's for sure. I think new projects will have enough room. As of right now they do. However, I have to move everything out of UW asap, so I can't promise

Re: [sage-cloud] Re: [sage-devel] Typeset output in non-Sage modes in Sage Notebook

2015-04-27 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 9:14 AM, Dima Pasechnik dimp...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday, 27 April 2015 17:00:26 UTC+1, help wrote: On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 8:11 AM, Dima Pasechnik dim...@gmail.com wrote: That won't be available for long. how about having an SMC-only filestore or an http

Re: [sage-cloud] Re: [sage-devel] Typeset output in non-Sage modes in Sage Notebook

2015-04-27 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Monday, 27 April 2015 17:18:09 UTC+1, help wrote: On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 9:14 AM, Dima Pasechnik dim...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: On Monday, 27 April 2015 17:00:26 UTC+1, help wrote: On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 8:11 AM, Dima Pasechnik dim...@gmail.com wrote: That

Re: [sage-cloud] Re: [sage-devel] Typeset output in non-Sage modes in Sage Notebook

2015-04-27 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Monday, 27 April 2015 17:00:26 UTC+1, help wrote: On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 8:11 AM, Dima Pasechnik dim...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: That won't be available for long. how about having an SMC-only filestore or an http server for this kind of things? (just to save

Re: [sage-cloud] Re: [sage-devel] Typeset output in non-Sage modes in Sage Notebook

2015-04-27 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Monday, 27 April 2015 17:23:50 UTC+1, Bill Page wrote: On 27 April 2015 at 12:00, William Stein wst...@sagemath.com javascript: wrote: ... SMC won't be able to provide that sort of hosting for free, that's for sure. I think new projects will have enough room. As of

Re: [sage-cloud] Re: [sage-devel] Typeset output in non-Sage modes in Sage Notebook

2015-04-27 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Monday, 27 April 2015 17:39:56 UTC+1, Dima Pasechnik wrote: On Monday, 27 April 2015 17:18:09 UTC+1, help wrote: On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 9:14 AM, Dima Pasechnik dim...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday, 27 April 2015 17:00:26 UTC+1, help wrote: On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 8:11 AM,

Re: [sage-cloud] Re: [sage-devel] Typeset output in non-Sage modes in Sage Notebook

2015-04-26 Thread William Stein
On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 7:49 PM, Bill Page bill.p...@newsynthesis.org wrote: On 26 April 2015 at 20:49, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 5:40 PM, Bill Page bill.p...@newsynthesis.org wrote: ... Is there a way to tell the worksheet to render code between $$ ...

Re: [sage-cloud] Re: [sage-devel] Typeset output in non-Sage modes in Sage Notebook

2015-04-26 Thread Bill Page
On 26 April 2015 at 20:49, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 5:40 PM, Bill Page bill.p...@newsynthesis.org wrote: ... Is there a way to tell the worksheet to render code between $$ ... $$ as MathJax or have MathML markup rendered by the browser instead of being