Re: [sage-devel] Re: Issue with quick start

2017-12-07 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
On 2017-12-04 23:52, Dima Pasechnik wrote: I will open a trac ticket changing Math* to Wiskunde. Great idea! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sag

[sage-devel] Re: Issue with quick start

2017-12-05 Thread kcrisman
> Mind you, some components of Sage have versions of the same command in two > different English spellings, e.g. GAP has Center() and Centre(). > > I propose switching to a language with a consistent meaningful spelling, > not all that impossible to understand arbitrary multiple choices. I will

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Issue with quick start

2017-12-05 Thread Jori Mäntysalo
On Mon, 4 Dec 2017, Dima Pasechnik wrote: Mind you, some components of Sage have versions of the same command in two different English spellings, e.g. GAP has Center() and Centre(). But the Sage source code itseself contains only one "centre", in documentation of src/sage/groups/perm_gps/perm

[sage-devel] Re: Issue with quick start

2017-12-04 Thread Dima Pasechnik
Mind you, some components of Sage have versions of the same command in two different English spellings, e.g. GAP has Center() and Centre(). I propose switching to a language with a consistent meaningful spelling, not all that impossible to understand arbitrary multiple choices. I will open a tr

[sage-devel] Re: Issue with quick start

2017-12-04 Thread DC
Despite my attempt to bring the discussion into the realm of objectivity, it is apparent that personal preference has won. >>>On Friday, December 1, 2017 at 7:37:57 PM UTC-8, John H Palmieri wrote: > > I think it is much more important to fix bugs and to add new functionality > to Sage. > There

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Issue with quick start

2017-12-02 Thread Andrew
On Wednesday, 29 November 2017 10:18:54 UTC+1, John Cremona wrote: > > Please can we just use "mathematics" and not argue about abbreviations? > > +1 As an Australian,"math" sounds as wrong to me as I imagine that "maths" does to north Americans. Andrew -- You received this message because

[sage-devel] Re: Issue with quick start

2017-12-01 Thread John H Palmieri
I think it is much more important to fix bugs and to add new functionality to Sage. Regarding consistency: "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds" -- Ralph Waldo Emerson "Consistency is contrary to nature, contrary to life. The only completely consistent people are the dead." –

[sage-devel] Re: Issue with quick start

2017-12-01 Thread dave
For the sake of clarity, definite points can be made to unequivocally illustrate the need to take the very simple step and *be* *consistent*, by combing over this system and using the term "MATH" : Using the full word "mathematics" is a noble suggestion, and even acceptable to a point, however

[sage-devel] Re: Issue with quick start

2017-12-01 Thread John H Palmieri
On Friday, December 1, 2017 at 6:43:05 AM UTC-8, kcrisman wrote: > > > > On Thursday, November 30, 2017 at 6:50:09 PM UTC-5, Matthew Schroeder > wrote: >> >> Dear John, >> >> Thank you for your interest in resolving this problem. >> >> To answer your question I am referring to >> http://www.

[sage-devel] Re: Issue with quick start

2017-12-01 Thread kcrisman
On Thursday, November 30, 2017 at 6:50:09 PM UTC-5, Matthew Schroeder wrote: > > Dear John, > > Thank you for your interest in resolving this problem. > > To answer your question I am referring to > http://www.sagemath.org/tour-quickstart.html. I was reading this to get > an idea of what SA

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Issue with quick start

2017-11-30 Thread William Stein
John Cremona: > Please can we just use "mathematics" and not argue about abbreviations? -- > John +1000 On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 3:50 PM, Matthew Schroeder wrote: > Dear John, > > Thank you for your interest in resolving this problem. > > To answer your question I am referring to > http://www.

[sage-devel] Re: Issue with quick start

2017-11-30 Thread Matthew Schroeder
Dear John, Thank you for your interest in resolving this problem. To answer your question I am referring to http://www.sagemath.org/tour-quickstart.html. I was reading this to get an idea of what SAGE can do, when I hit this road block :) "Sort of supports" my point? I tracked down a vide

[sage-devel] Re: Issue with quick start

2017-11-30 Thread John H Palmieri
On Thursday, November 30, 2017 at 12:22:05 PM UTC-8, Matthew Schroeder wrote: > > i did some research. Please see the link: Saying "Maths" is wrong > > Turns out this is a problem that should be fixed. > I assume you're joking. With this assump

[sage-devel] Re: Issue with quick start

2017-11-30 Thread Matthew Schroeder
i did some research. Please see the link: Saying "Maths" is wrong Turns out this is a problem that should be fixed. On a side note: Did someone who speaks French just accuse people of being lazy for ignoring consonants on the end of words? On T

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Issue with quick start

2017-11-30 Thread Thierry Dumont
Le 29/11/2017 à 08:40, Emmanuel Charpentier a écrit : > In French, we name that "les mathématiques"... ISTR that there are > serious etymological reasons. The US's "math" sounds like carelessness > (and the french "désinvolture" would be a better designation...). > > -- > Emmanuel Charpentier > W

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Issue with quick start

2017-11-29 Thread kcrisman
Please can we just use "mathematics" and not argue about abbreviations? > Perhaps we should go back to being called geometers! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Issue with quick start

2017-11-29 Thread John Cremona
Please can we just use "mathematics" and not argue about abbreviations? John On 29 November 2017 at 07:40, Emmanuel Charpentier wrote: > In French, we name that "les mathématiques"... ISTR that there are serious > etymological reasons. The US's "math" sounds like carelessness (and the > french "

[sage-devel] Re: Issue with quick start

2017-11-28 Thread Emmanuel Charpentier
In French, we name that "les mathématiques"... ISTR that there are serious etymological reasons. The US's "math" sounds like carelessness (and the french "désinvolture" would be a better designation...). -- Emmanuel Charpentier Le mercredi 29 novembre 2017 01:03:05 UTC+1, Matthew Schroeder a éc