[sage-devel] Re: Sage and Singular Talk

2009-08-03 Thread Rado
oh and forgot to mention, because of the way sage tries (and fails since Singular is very uncooperative) to map the points it knowns to points in Singular, the example above becomes (10,0,0,-1,0,3) (which again might change a sometimes since this depends on C[1][5]->POINTS). Now mapping this vect

[sage-devel] Re: Sage and Singular Talk

2009-08-03 Thread Rado
The problem is that there is a place of degree 6 at position 0 (or 1 in Singular world). I think Singular used the places listed at C[3] for RR computations (if i am reading http://www.singular.uni-kl.de/Manual/latest/sing_1341.htm#SEC1418 correctly) and not C[1][5]->Points (which is random and d

[sage-devel] Re: Sage and Singular Talk

2009-07-18 Thread William Stein
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 6:35 AM, David Joyner wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 9:13 AM, David Joyner wrote: >> On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 5:19 AM, Martin >> Albrecht wrote: >>> >>> On Thursday 16 July 2009, David Joyner wrote: On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 7:31 PM, Kiran Kedlaya wrote: > One pe

[sage-devel] Re: Sage and Singular Talk

2009-07-17 Thread David Joyner
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 9:13 AM, David Joyner wrote: > On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 5:19 AM, Martin > Albrecht wrote: >> >> On Thursday 16 July 2009, David Joyner wrote: >>> On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 7:31 PM, Kiran Kedlaya wrote: >>> > One pet complaint that you might bring up with the Singular team: I >

[sage-devel] Re: Sage and Singular Talk

2009-07-17 Thread David Joyner
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 5:19 AM, Martin Albrecht wrote: > > On Thursday 16 July 2009, David Joyner wrote: >> On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 7:31 PM, Kiran Kedlaya wrote: >> > One pet complaint that you might bring up with the Singular team: I >> >> Speaking of pet complaints, can you ask if they will at

[sage-devel] Re: Sage and Singular Talk

2009-07-16 Thread Martin Albrecht
On Thursday 16 July 2009, William Stein wrote: > On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Martin > > Albrecht wrote: > > Hi John, > > > >> page 29 has "PolyBoRi is not use inexplicitly": Should it be "is not > >> used explicitly" or "is used implicitly" or "is used explicitly"? > > > > I mean to say that

[sage-devel] Re: Sage and Singular Talk

2009-07-16 Thread William Stein
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Martin Albrecht wrote: > > Hi John, > >> page 29 has "PolyBoRi is not use inexplicitly": Should it be "is not >> used explicitly" or "is used implicitly" or "is used explicitly"? > > I mean to say that PolyBoRi is not used 'behind the scenes' when it is not > expli

[sage-devel] Re: Sage and Singular Talk

2009-07-16 Thread Martin Albrecht
Hi John, > page 29 has "PolyBoRi is not use inexplicitly": Should it be "is not > used explicitly" or "is used implicitly" or "is used explicitly"? I mean to say that PolyBoRi is not used 'behind the scenes' when it is not explicit requested. > page 57 has "at least 10 \times -20 \times": "10-

[sage-devel] Re: Sage and Singular Talk

2009-07-16 Thread john_perry_usm
Martin, page 29 has "PolyBoRi is not use inexplicitly": Should it be "is not used explicitly" or "is used implicitly" or "is used explicitly"? page 57 has "at least 10 \times -20 \times": "10--20x" (not in math mode) might be more readable; right now it looks like "negative 20 times" page 57 ha

[sage-devel] Re: Sage and Singular Talk

2009-07-16 Thread Martin Albrecht
Hi Kiran, this is now http://www.singular.uni-kl.de:8002/trac/ticket/154 Cheers, Martin On Thursday 16 July 2009, Kiran Kedlaya wrote: > One pet complaint that you might bring up with the Singular team: I > have had trouble using Singular for Groebner basis computations over > the rational f

[sage-devel] Re: Sage and Singular Talk

2009-07-16 Thread Martin Albrecht
On Thursday 16 July 2009, David Joyner wrote: > On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 7:31 PM, Kiran Kedlaya wrote: > > One pet complaint that you might bring up with the Singular team: I > > Speaking of pet complaints, can you ask if they will at some point fix > the bugs in the Riemann-Roch computations in th

[sage-devel] Re: Sage and Singular Talk

2009-07-16 Thread ederc
Nice talk Martin, have a good time in K-town next week, sorry that I can't be there. On Jul 16, 1:43 am, David Joyner wrote: > On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 7:31 PM, Kiran Kedlaya wrote: > > > One pet complaint that you might bring up with the Singular team: I > > Speaking of pet complaints, can you

[sage-devel] Re: Sage and Singular Talk

2009-07-15 Thread David Joyner
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 7:31 PM, Kiran Kedlaya wrote: > > One pet complaint that you might bring up with the Singular team: I Speaking of pet complaints, can you ask if they will at some point fix the bugs in the Riemann-Roch computations in the Brill-Noether routines? To be honest, I have not c

[sage-devel] Re: Sage and Singular Talk

2009-07-15 Thread Kiran Kedlaya
One pet complaint that you might bring up with the Singular team: I have had trouble using Singular for Groebner basis computations over the rational function field Q(t). Certain computations that Magma handles easily cause Singular to choke up. I posted an example upstream: http://www.singular.u

[sage-devel] Re: Sage and Singular Talk

2009-07-15 Thread gsw
Hi Martin, On 15 Jul., 13:25, Martin Albrecht wrote: > Hi there, > > next week I'll visit the Singular group in Kaiserslautern. As a part of my > visit I will give a talk on Sage. The talk will be focused on topics I assume > to be relevant to the Singular team. > > I have uploaded a draft of my

[sage-devel] Re: Sage and Singular Talk

2009-07-15 Thread Michael Brickenstein
Hi Martin! This is an example for open culture, to discuss talks in advance in public mailing lists :-). It would become more emotionally, if you use the heart of mathematics for plotting. f=(2*x^2+y^2+z^2-1)^3-(1/10)*x^2*z^3-y^2*z^3 == 0 Regarding the benchmarks with polybori multiplication: w

[sage-devel] Re: Sage and Singular Talk

2009-07-15 Thread Marshall Hampton
On page 28, "imature" should be "immature". On page 46, "montsh" should be "months". On page 47, "test" should be "tests". On page 48, "plattforms" should be "platforms". Cheers, Marshall On Jul 15, 5:25 am, Martin Albrecht wrote: > Hi there, > > next week I'll visit the Singular group in Ka

[sage-devel] Re: Sage and Singular Talk

2009-07-15 Thread Jason Grout
Martin Albrecht wrote: > On Wednesday 15 July 2009, Simon King wrote: >> Hi Martin, >> >> On 15 Jul., 13:25, Martin Albrecht >> >> wrote: >>> I have uploaded a draft of my slides to: >>> >>> http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/malb/talks/sage-singular.pdf >> Page 8: Is there really a script "sa

[sage-devel] Re: Sage and Singular Talk

2009-07-15 Thread Martin Albrecht
On Wednesday 15 July 2009, Simon King wrote: > Hi Martin, > > On 15 Jul., 13:25, Martin Albrecht > > wrote: > > I have uploaded a draft of my slides to: > > > > http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/malb/talks/sage-singular.pdf > > Page 8: Is there really a script "sage -spkg"? What is it used fo

[sage-devel] Re: Sage and Singular Talk

2009-07-15 Thread Simon King
Hi Martin, On 15 Jul., 13:25, Martin Albrecht wrote: > I have uploaded a draft of my slides to: > >  http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/malb/talks/sage-singular.pdf Page 8: Is there really a script "sage -spkg"? What is it used for? I only know "sage -pkg". It is good that you also talk abou

[sage-devel] Re: Sage and Singular Talk

2009-07-15 Thread David Joyner
Looks great as usual. I noticed a mis-spelling on page 46 (search for "April" in your latex file and you'll find it). On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 7:25 AM, Martin Albrecht wrote: > > Hi there, > > next week I'll visit the Singular group in Kaiserslautern. As a part of my > visit I will give a talk on