Re: [sage-devel] Re: Slowness of www.sagenb.org

2010-11-23 Thread Tom Boothby
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 6:26 PM, William Stein wrote: > > Another good thing to do as part of this sprint would be to greatly > improve the logging ability of the notebook server.  The logs could, > of course, get stored to a database, for increased flexibility and > ease of querying.  They could

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Slowness of www.sagenb.org

2010-11-23 Thread Dan Drake
On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 at 06:26PM -0800, William Stein wrote: > Another good thing to do as part of this sprint would be to greatly > improve the logging ability of the notebook server. The logs could, > of course, get stored to a database, for increased flexibility and > ease of querying. They coul

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Slowness of www.sagenb.org

2010-11-23 Thread William Stein
On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Alex Leone wrote: > I've been thinking about architecture for a while.  I'll copy some of > my ideas to that page when I get a chance.  Hopefully we can nail down > a general structure before the bug days in January. That would be good. It's important that things

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Slowness of www.sagenb.org

2010-11-22 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 11/21/10 01:23 PM, tuxiano wrote: Please, don't disable www.sagenb.org I'm not an administrator of my office PC so I can't install SAGE and my company filters connections not on port 80 or 8080 so www.sagenb.org is the only Sage implementation that I can use. Perhaps other people are in my co

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Slowness of www.sagenb.org

2010-11-21 Thread William Stein
On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 7:13 PM, Eviatar wrote: > Ah, the culprit was the preparser. Thank you; disregard my previous > comments. No problem. I bet somebody else will find this message in the archives later or via a search, and it will help them out. Also, your example is a good handy example to

[sage-devel] Re: Slowness of www.sagenb.org

2010-11-21 Thread Eviatar
Ah, the culprit was the preparser. Thank you; disregard my previous comments. On Nov 21, 6:50 pm, William Stein wrote: > On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 4:53 PM, Eviatar wrote: > > It is actually slower, not just feels like it. Here is a specific > > example: > > > On Sage Notebook (locally): > > > "fro

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Slowness of www.sagenb.org

2010-11-21 Thread William Stein
On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 4:53 PM, Eviatar wrote: > It is actually slower, not just feels like it. Here is a specific > example: > > On Sage Notebook (locally): > > "from numpy import zeros > from random import randint > > def cellular(rule, N, initial='Single-cell'): >    '''Yields a matrix showing

[sage-devel] Re: Slowness of www.sagenb.org

2010-11-21 Thread Eviatar
It is actually slower, not just feels like it. Here is a specific example: On Sage Notebook (locally): "from numpy import zeros from random import randint def cellular(rule, N, initial='Single-cell'): '''Yields a matrix showing the evolution of a Wolfram's cellular automaton rule: d

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Slowness of www.sagenb.org

2010-11-21 Thread William Stein
On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 2:25 PM, William Stein wrote: > On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 1:33 PM, Eviatar wrote: >> I don't know if this is related, but I've noticed even the local Sage >> Notebook is slower than command-line, specifically NumPy operations. > > It makes absolutely no sense that that could

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Slowness of www.sagenb.org

2010-11-21 Thread William Stein
On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 1:33 PM, Eviatar wrote: > I don't know if this is related, but I've noticed even the local Sage > Notebook is slower than command-line, specifically NumPy operations. It makes absolutely no sense that that could happen.Please give a specific example. -- William > >

[sage-devel] Re: Slowness of www.sagenb.org

2010-11-21 Thread Eviatar
I don't know if this is related, but I've noticed even the local Sage Notebook is slower than command-line, specifically NumPy operations. On Nov 21, 12:30 pm, William Stein wrote: > On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 5:23 AM, tuxiano wrote: > > Please, don't disablewww.sagenb.org > > I'm not an administra

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Slowness of www.sagenb.org

2010-11-21 Thread William Stein
On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 5:23 AM, tuxiano wrote: > Please, don't disable www.sagenb.org > I'm not an administrator of my office PC so I can't install SAGE and > my company filters connections not on port 80 or 8080 so  www.sagenb.org > is the only Sage implementation that I can use. There is also

[sage-devel] Re: Slowness of www.sagenb.org

2010-11-21 Thread tuxiano
Please, don't disable www.sagenb.org I'm not an administrator of my office PC so I can't install SAGE and my company filters connections not on port 80 or 8080 so www.sagenb.org is the only Sage implementation that I can use. Perhaps other people are in my condition. Thanks Tiziano On Nov 21, 3

[sage-devel] Re: Slowness of www.sagenb.org

2010-11-21 Thread Dr David Kirkby
On Nov 20, 3:07 pm, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: > I think somebody should seriously look intowww.sagenb.org.  It is so > slow that it is essentially unusable.  Unfortunately, it is also very > bad advertising for Sage, because for many people their first contact > with Sage might bewww.sagenb.org.  I've

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Slowness of www.sagenb.org

2010-11-20 Thread Alex Leone
I've been thinking about architecture for a while. I'll copy some of my ideas to that page when I get a chance. Hopefully we can nail down a general structure before the bug days in January. > I've put up a page on the wiki about this project. Any interested > parties are strongly encouraged to

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Slowness of www.sagenb.org

2010-11-20 Thread Tom Boothby
On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 2:14 PM, Jason Grout wrote: > On 11/20/10 4:05 PM, Tom Boothby wrote: >> >> On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 1:45 PM, William Stein  wrote: >>> >>> To solve this slowness problem will require probably at least a month >>> of focused work to completely reimplement basically from scra

[sage-devel] Re: Slowness of www.sagenb.org

2010-11-20 Thread Jason Grout
On 11/20/10 4:05 PM, Tom Boothby wrote: On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 1:45 PM, William Stein wrote: To solve this slowness problem will require probably at least a month of focused work to completely reimplement basically from scratch the storage and server architecture of the notebook in a much more

[sage-devel] Re: Slowness of www.sagenb.org

2010-11-20 Thread Jason Grout
On 11/20/10 3:45 PM, William Stein wrote: On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 12:07 PM, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: I think somebody should seriously look into www.sagenb.org. It is so slow that it is essentially unusable. Unfortunately, it is also very bad advertising for Sage, because for many people their f