[sage-devel] Re: unix

2009-09-28 Thread Peter Jeremy
On 2009-Sep-27 06:32:41 -0700, Marmaduke mmwood...@gmail.com wrote: I learned most useful things from the Info pages on coreutils. Maybe these can be rendered to html because they come from Texinfo? I'd strongly recommend against using the coreutils or bash info files as a basis for learning

[sage-devel] Re: unix

2009-09-27 Thread Marmaduke
I learned most useful things from the Info pages on coreutils. Maybe these can be rendered to html because they come from Texinfo? On Sep 26, 7:12 pm, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Are there any amazingly good freely available introductions to basic command line UNIX that people

[sage-devel] Re: unix

2009-09-27 Thread Carlo Hamalainen
On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 9:12 PM, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: Are there any amazingly good freely available introductions to basic command line UNIX that people recommend.  I've noticed that many people (often young students raised on Windows) who really want to work on Sage don't

[sage-devel] Re: unix

2009-09-27 Thread Harald Schilly
On Sep 27, 3:32 pm, Marmaduke mmwood...@gmail.com wrote: I learned most useful things from the Info pages on coreutils. Maybe these can be rendered to html because they come from Texinfo? look here: http://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/manual/html_node/ h

[sage-devel] Re: unix

2009-09-27 Thread ahmet alper parker
This is just a recommandation on the topic. Personally, i don' believe if someoneone try to learn linux/unix/minix (whatever you call) will learn it correctly from the available online literature. Generally, they have a misunderstanding that everything they learn is Linux. Maybe writing

[sage-devel] Re: unix

2009-09-27 Thread William Stein
On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 1:24 PM, ahmet alper parker aapar...@gmail.com wrote: This is just a recommandation on the topic. Personally, i don' believe if someoneone try to learn linux/unix/minix (whatever you call) will learn it  correctly from the available online literature. Generally, they

[sage-devel] Re: unix

2009-09-27 Thread John Cremona
2009/9/27 William Stein wst...@gmail.com: ey learn is Linux. Carlo posted this a few messages back:   http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Teaching/Unix/ I flipped through it a bit, and it looks excellent.  And moreover, I think it does a great job of emphasizing the difference between UNIX and

[sage-devel] Re: unix

2009-09-26 Thread gsw
Hi William, on Cygwin.org (see http://cygwin.com/cygwin-ug-net/ov-ex-win.html;), they recommend to search for UNIX basics and UNIX tutorial. Doing so yields e.g.: http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Teaching/Unix/ where you can find a browser- or offline-readable UNIX Tutorial for Beginners, which

[sage-devel] Re: unix

2009-09-26 Thread Marshall Hampton
One can do worse than Unix for Dummies. I can't really review it effectively, since I knew most of what's in it before getting it, but it seems pretty good for a total newbie. What was very helpful to me after I learned some basics was O'Reilly's Unix Power Tools, but that might be overwhelming

[sage-devel] Re: unix

2009-09-26 Thread Harald Schilly
On Sep 26, 9:12 pm, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: Are there any amazingly good freely available introductions to basic command line UNIX that people recommend. This fall I'm teaching an introduction lecture to Linux ... the problem is, that you also have to explain the basics. One book

[sage-devel] Re: unix

2009-09-26 Thread lutusp
On Sep 26, 12:12 pm, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Are there any amazingly good freely available introductions to basic command line UNIX that people recommend.  I've noticed that many people (often young students raised on Windows) who really want to work on Sage don't know

[sage-devel] Re: unix

2009-09-26 Thread William Stein
On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 2:30 PM, Marshall Hampton hampto...@gmail.com wrote: One can do worse than Unix for Dummies. Is it available for free online? For my purposes, that is a bare minimum requirement. -- William  I can't really review it effectively, since I knew most of what's in it

[sage-devel] Re: unix

2009-09-26 Thread Marshall Hampton
Oh, no, sorry - somehow I skipped over the freely available part your request. My apologies. -Marshall On Sep 26, 6:15 pm, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 2:30 PM, Marshall Hampton hampto...@gmail.com wrote: One can do worse than Unix for Dummies. Is it