Re: [sage-devel] Re: GSOC 2012

2012-02-18 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 02/16/12 12:22 AM, rjf wrote: IMHO, a native port of Sage to Windows could not be done in a week or two. Perhaps a Cygwin port could, but I'm talking of a native port, where the code runs directly on Windows, without any Linux virtual machines, emulators or similar. I see no reason to reje

Re: [sage-devel] Re: GSOC 2012

2012-02-16 Thread William Stein
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > In gmane.comp.mathematics.sage.devel, you wrote: >> >> >> On Feb 15, 6:31 pm, kcrisman wrote: >>> On Feb 15, 7:22 pm, rjf wrote: >>> >>> > > IMHO, a native port of Sage to Windows could not be done in a week or >>> > > two. >>> > > Perhap

Re: [sage-devel] Re: GSOC 2012

2012-02-15 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 02/16/12 01:44 AM, Dima Pasechnik wrote: In gmane.comp.mathematics.sage.devel, you wrote: On 02/15/12 01:40 AM, Volker Braun wrote: While it would be an funny retro-computing exercise, No, it would be a painful one. Even if you could install it, most modern software would not run on it.

Re: [sage-devel] Re: GSOC 2012

2012-02-14 Thread Volker Braun
On Tuesday, February 14, 2012 10:13:26 PM UTC-8, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > > So Windows Vista, and all the free Linux distributions like Ubuntu are not > supported. Neither is OS X. > If you have a cluster you obviously don't put Ubuntu on the nodes (there are special cluster distributions like

Re: [sage-devel] Re: GSOC 2012

2012-02-14 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 02/15/12 01:40 AM, Volker Braun wrote: While it would be an funny retro-computing exercise, No, it would be a painful one. Even if you could install it, most modern software would not run on it. I don't think Windows NT 3.51 can run on Power7. It is binary compatible under certain condit

Re: [sage-devel] Re: GSOC 2012

2012-02-14 Thread Volker Braun
While it would be an funny retro-computing exercise, I don't think Windows NT 3.51 can run on Power7. It is binary compatible under certain conditions but i'd be surprised if a whole OS can escape all caveats. I actually know one or two Windows-based HPC clusters in academic research. In the ca

Re: [sage-devel] Re: GSOC 2012

2012-02-14 Thread François Bissey
On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 15:39:20 Volker Braun wrote: > IBM discontinuing AIX? Is this some kind of joke? IBM is more than happy to > sell Power7 systems with AIX. But if you have the hardware lying around and > no money to buy a recent AIX version then there are also plenty of linux > options. The only

Re: [sage-devel] Re: GSOC 2012

2012-02-14 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 02/14/12 11:01 PM, Volker Braun wrote: On Tuesday, February 14, 2012 3:16:04 AM UTC-8, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: is one such example. I was recently speaking to one of their engineers, who said some customers had simultions taking weeks, so they would get Ansys (the vendor) to simulate them on

Re: [sage-devel] Re: GSOC 2012

2012-02-14 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 02/14/12 11:39 PM, Volker Braun wrote: IBM discontinuing AIX? Is this some kind of joke? IBM is more than happy to sell Power7 systems with AIX. But if you have the hardware lying around and no money to buy a recent AIX version then there are also plenty of linux options. The only thing that i

Re: [sage-devel] Re: GSOC 2012

2012-02-14 Thread Volker Braun
IBM discontinuing AIX? Is this some kind of joke? IBM is more than happy to sell Power7 systems with AIX. But if you have the hardware lying around and no money to buy a recent AIX version then there are also plenty of linux options. The only thing that is for sure is that you can't run Windows

Re: [sage-devel] Re: GSOC 2012

2012-02-14 Thread François Bissey
On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 15:01:59 Volker Braun wrote: > On Tuesday, February 14, 2012 3:16:04 AM UTC-8, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > > is one such example. I was recently speaking to one of their engineers, > > who said some customers had simultions taking weeks, so they would get > > Ansys (the vendor) to

Re: [sage-devel] Re: GSOC 2012

2012-02-14 Thread Volker Braun
On Tuesday, February 14, 2012 8:19:33 AM UTC-8, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > > PS. It's interesting that Wolfram Research appear to use ATLAS in > Mathematica - at least on Solaris. I base this on the fact there is a file > 'libatlas.so', or some similar name in the Mathematica distribution. > An i

Re: [sage-devel] Re: GSOC 2012

2012-02-14 Thread Volker Braun
On Tuesday, February 14, 2012 3:16:04 AM UTC-8, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > > is one such example. I was recently speaking to one of their engineers, > who said some customers had simultions taking weeks, so they would get > Ansys (the vendor) to simulate them on more powerful hardware, reducing th

Re: [sage-devel] Re: GSOC 2012

2012-02-14 Thread David Kirkby
On 13 February 2012 17:22, rjf wrote: > > > On Feb 13, 12:51 am, "Dr. David Kirkby" > wrote: > > On 02/12/12 03:06 PM, rjf wrote: > > > > > Microsoft and Google/Motorola are suing each other. > > > Do you get money from Microsoft? > > > Just a thought. > > > > > You could propose to Google to

Re: [sage-devel] Re: GSOC 2012

2012-02-14 Thread David Kirkby
On 14 February 2012 06:05, Volker Braun wrote: > The most common home computer is a game console. While techincally an XBox is a windows PC, very few normal Windows programs run on it. Some of my code has been run on a Sony Playstation 3, as well as a Cray supercomputer. http://atlc.sourceforge

Re: [sage-devel] Re: GSOC 2012

2012-02-14 Thread Harald Schilly
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 07:05, Volker Braun wrote: > The most common home computer is a game console. in 2012, i think it's the posix-world of smartphones and tablets, namely android and iOS. porting to or supporting a growing ecosystem (i.e. tablets) has more long term benefits than petting a dy

Re: [sage-devel] Re: GSOC 2012

2012-02-13 Thread Keshav Kini
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 13:34, rjf wrote: > On Feb 13, 6:10 pm, Dima Pasechnik wrote: >> > (RJF) This is not a problem if you drop the requirement that every >> > recipient >> > of Sage must be able to COMPILE stuff locally.  Just have one person >> > compile the stuff once and distribute dll fi

Re: [sage-devel] Re: GSOC 2012

2012-02-13 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 02/12/12 03:06 PM, rjf wrote: Microsoft and Google/Motorola are suing each other. Do you get money from Microsoft? Just a thought. You could propose to Google to port Sage to run on Windows/ natively, not. I believe a complete native port would be an almost impossibility. I don't think m

Re: [sage-devel] Re: GSOC 2012

2012-02-12 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 02/12/2012 01:33 AM, John H Palmieri wrote: On Saturday, February 11, 2012 8:39:32 PM UTC-8, Michael Orlitzky wrote: I've started this: http://wiki.sagemath.org/PiecewiseSymbolicSEP It's basically a brain dump at this point,

Re: [sage-devel] Re: GSOC 2012

2012-02-11 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 10:33 PM, John H Palmieri wrote: > > > On Saturday, February 11, 2012 8:39:32 PM UTC-8, Michael Orlitzky wrote: >> >> I've started this: >> >>    http://wiki.sagemath.org/PiecewiseSymbolicSEP >> >> It's basically a brain dump at this point, but I can go back and clean >> up

Re: [sage-devel] Re: GSOC 2012

2012-02-11 Thread John H Palmieri
On Saturday, February 11, 2012 8:39:32 PM UTC-8, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > > I've started this: > >http://wiki.sagemath.org/PiecewiseSymbolicSEP > > It's basically a brain dump at this point, but I can go back and clean > up specific ideas now with less overhead. > > I've also added a link a

Re: [sage-devel] Re: GSOC 2012

2012-02-11 Thread Michael Orlitzky
I've started this: http://wiki.sagemath.org/PiecewiseSymbolicSEP It's basically a brain dump at this point, but I can go back and clean up specific ideas now with less overhead. I've also added a link and a few paragraphs to the GSoC proposal. -- To post to this group, send an email to sag

Re: [sage-devel] Re: GSOC 2012

2012-02-08 Thread Harald Schilly
On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 20:43, Christopher Swenson wrote: > There should be a section along the lines of "vouchers from Google and other > large organizations". yes, there is in deed such a section. thanks for your support :) H -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.

Re: [sage-devel] Re: GSOC 2012

2012-02-08 Thread William Stein
On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Christopher Swenson wrote: > I thought I would not that, to whomever is going to write the application, > be sure to list me down as a Google supporter, since I think it would be > great to have a Sage GSoC project.  There should be a section along the > lines of "

Re: [sage-devel] Re: GSOC 2012

2012-02-08 Thread Christopher Swenson
I thought I would not that, to whomever is going to write the application, be sure to list me down as a Google supporter, since I think it would be great to have a Sage GSoC project. There should be a section along the lines of "vouchers from Google and other large organizations". If I had a bit

Re: [sage-devel] Re: GSOC 2012

2012-02-08 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 02/07/2012 11:20 PM, kcrisman wrote: I hesitate to say I would be a good mentor, but there are a lot of things in symbolics and graphics that would be appropriate for this that I'd like to try with some of my students. Especially piecewise functions and such. Continuing nontrivial Geogebra

Re: [sage-devel] Re: GSOC 2012

2012-02-07 Thread William Stein
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 8:11 PM, Volker Braun wrote: > Maybe we can tie the Android app into the notebook work? I could help mentor > a student working on Android stuff, maybe that would help our GSOC > application. That's an *extremely* good idea! Maybe we should have "The Sage Notebook" as the

Re: [sage-devel] Re: GSOC 2012

2012-02-07 Thread William Stein
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 7:55 PM, Jason Grout wrote: > On 2/7/12 9:48 PM, William Stein wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> Does anybody want to help put together a GSoC application for Sage for >> 2012? >> >>    http://code.google.com/soc/ >> >> The application deadline is March 9. >> >> So far, I think we've a