Re: [sage-support] Re: Install of sage on macOS

2020-12-23 Thread Matthias Koeppe
On Wednesday, December 23, 2020 at 5:55:38 AM UTC-8 u...@ll.mit.edu wrote: > >>> the MacPorts-specific part would be to create a list of packages to >> install, and put it into build/pkgs/*/distros/macports >> and a similar global location. >> > > I'm not sure I understand what that means. >

Re: [sage-support] Re: Install of sage on macOS

2020-12-23 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Wed, 23 Dec 2020, 14:11 Mouse Mousevich, wrote: > I looked into build/pgks/* (1.5 GB) and it appears that Sage is trying to > be a package manager, in addition to what people probably want it for. > > I guess at version 9.2 it's rather late to ask why it isn't good enough to > just list in

Re: [sage-support] Re: Install of sage on macOS

2020-12-23 Thread John H Palmieri
The short answer is that Sage is designed for (among others) research mathematicians, who may not have the interest or inclination to learn how to install lots of system packages. So from the beginning it included as many components as possible. Years ago the presence of MacPorts and other

Re: [sage-support] Re: Install of sage on macOS

2020-12-23 Thread Samuel Lelièvre
Le mer. 23 déc. 2020 à 14:55, Mouse Mousevich: >> >> the MacPorts-specific part would be to create a list of packages to install, >> and put it into build/pkgs/*/distros/macports >> and a similar global location. > > I'm not sure I understand what that means. If a package is already installed >

Re: [sage-support] Re: Install of sage on macOS

2020-12-23 Thread Mouse Mousevich
I looked into build/pgks/* (1.5 GB) and it appears that Sage is trying to be a package manager, in addition to what people probably want it for. I guess at version 9.2 it's rather late to ask why it isn't good enough to just list in the README a set of packages that Sage requires to run, and

Re: [sage-support] Re: Install of sage on macOS

2020-12-23 Thread Mouse Mousevich
> > >> We don't have a single MacPort user among a handful of SageMath >>> developers. Please feel free to provide patches. (Yes, it means supporting >>> yet another nonstandard location, more or less, I suppose) >>> >> >> The fun part is that to support Macports, you need to look in >>

Re: [sage-support] Re: Install of sage on macOS

2020-12-23 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Wed, 23 Dec 2020, 11:01 Mouse Mousevich, wrote: > Please see below. > > TL;DR. >> patches are most welcome :-) >> > > Understood. > > >> Sage-9.2 has several idiosyncrasies that for me are hard to explain. One >>> - it deliberately refuses to work with Macports-installed packages, even >>>

Re: [sage-support] Re: Install of sage on macOS

2020-12-23 Thread Mouse Mousevich
Please see below. TL;DR. > patches are most welcome :-) > Understood. > Sage-9.2 has several idiosyncrasies that for me are hard to explain. One - >> it deliberately refuses to work with Macports-installed packages, even >> though their main difference from similar ones installed via Brew

Re: [sage-support] Re: Install of sage on macOS

2020-12-23 Thread Dima Pasechnik
TL;DR. patches are most welcome :-) Details below. On Wed, 23 Dec 2020, 02:40 Mouse Mousevich, wrote: > A lot of people have a lot of problems with Sage-9.2 on MacOS, installing > pre-compiled or building from the source. > > Sage-9.2 has several idiosyncrasies that for me are hard to explain.

Re: [sage-support] Re: Install of sage on macOS

2020-12-22 Thread Mouse Mousevich
After changing the env compiler flags to stop pplpy-0.8.4 from confusing itself, and re-starting the build, it fails in scipy-1.5.2: [scipy-1.5.2] clang -bundle -undefined dynamic_lookup -L/Applications/SageMath/local/lib -Wl,-rpath,/Applications/SageMath/local/lib -L.

Re: [sage-support] Re: Install of sage on macOS

2020-12-22 Thread Mouse Mousevich
A lot of people have a lot of problems with Sage-9.2 on MacOS, installing pre-compiled or building from the source. Sage-9.2 has several idiosyncrasies that for me are hard to explain. One - it deliberately refuses to work with Macports-installed packages, even though their main difference

Re: [sage-support] Re: Install of sage on macOS

2020-12-04 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Fri, Dec 4, 2020 at 3:26 PM Mathieu Dutour wrote: > > On Thursday, 3 December 2020 at 19:13:28 UTC+1 dim...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 5:39 PM Mathieu Dutour wrote: >>> >>> Thank you for providing this. Keep that in mind for future. >>> >>> As it turns out, the solution to

Re: [sage-support] Re: Install of sage on macOS

2020-12-04 Thread Mathieu Dutour
On Thursday, 3 December 2020 at 19:13:28 UTC+1 dim...@gmail.com wrote: > On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 5:39 PM Mathieu Dutour > wrote: > >> Thank you for providing this. Keep that in mind for future. >> >> As it turns out, the solution to installing was incredibly simple: >> "brew install sage" >> > >

Re: [sage-support] Re: Install of sage on macOS

2020-12-03 Thread G. M.-S.
Hi Dima. As you said, "brew install sage" does nothing more than downloading a sage-*.app.dmg and copying it to /Applications, at least on an older OS. Details follow for macOS High Sierra (10.13.6). Yes, I know it is an "obsolete" version. $ brew info sage sage: 9.1,10.11.6

Re: [sage-support] Re: Install of sage on macOS

2020-12-03 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 5:39 PM Mathieu Dutour wrote: > > Thank you for providing this. Keep that in mind for future. > > As it turns out, the solution to installing was incredibly simple: > "brew install sage" > dima@oucl13243 sage % brew install sage ==> Searching for similarly named

Re: [sage-support] Re: Install of sage on macOS

2020-12-03 Thread slelievre
A ticket to track providing an app for macOS again: - Provide macOS app again https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/31000 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-support" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

Re: [sage-support] Re: Install of sage on macOS

2020-12-03 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 5:39 PM Mathieu Dutour wrote: > Thank you for providing this. Keep that in mind for future. > > As it turns out, the solution to installing was incredibly simple: > "brew install sage" > on macOS 10.15.7 this appears to install the version 9.2 of x86_64.app.dmg by

[sage-support] Re: Install of sage on macOS

2020-12-03 Thread Mathieu Dutour
Thank you for providing this. Keep that in mind for future. As it turns out, the solution to installing was incredibly simple: "brew install sage" I think this should be mentioned on the "Sage Installation Guide" as this is a very convenient and standard procedure on Macintosh. Your mention of

[sage-support] Re: Install of sage on macOS

2020-12-03 Thread john_perry_usm
Have you tried this? sudo xattr -r -d com.apple.quarantine It removes the "quarantine" signal on files. I used it to get Sage running on Catalina. I've had to use this with some other things, too. I learned of it through one of the StackOverflow sites, and it may also be in Sage's