Re: Exchange server alternative?

2014-02-10 Thread zxq9
On Monday 10 February 2014 13:32:01 James M. Pulver wrote: > I am very skeptical of cloud offerings. I run my own e-mail server at home > using Citadel on SL6, which does do calendaring and e-mail, but I don't use > calendaring. It's integrated in the web UI, but the UI is pretty 90sish. > > I wou

RE: Exchange server alternative?

2014-02-10 Thread James M. Pulver
n Haigh; SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS@FNAL.GOV Subject: Re: Exchange server alternative? Nico I tend to agree with you there are so many inexpensive mail services out there now I haven't tried to do this kind of thing in many years. But its not an option for every one especially it you work for a large

Re: Exchange server alternative?

2014-02-10 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 7:59 PM, John Stewart wrote: > Our university is trying to get everyone moved to Office 365 and shutdown > the few remaining departmental mail servers. The following is the response > I wrote to one of our faculty member who was unhappy about having his mail > stored on se

Re: Exchange server alternative?

2014-02-09 Thread John Stewart
Our university is trying to get everyone moved to Office 365 and shutdown the few remaining departmental mail servers. The following is the response I wrote to one of our faculty member who was unhappy about having his mail stored on servers in the US. There are substantial savings to univers

Re: Exchange server alternative?

2014-02-09 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 3:50 PM, Paul Robert Marino wrote: > On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 10:46 AM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: >> It also ties directly to backup. Backup is often ignored, or relegated >> to an afterthought for critical email systems. > > I severely doubt you have never sat across a table

Re: Exchange server alternative?

2014-02-09 Thread Paul Robert Marino
On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 10:46 AM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 8:58 AM, Paul Robert Marino > wrote: >> You know what you also can't do with Gmail create a SOX compliant export for >> regulators if you get audited. > > You mean like the regulations the Google Apps Vault was de

Re: Exchange server alternative?

2014-02-09 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 8:58 AM, Paul Robert Marino wrote: > You know what you also can't do with Gmail create a SOX compliant export for > regulators if you get audited. You mean like the regulations the Google Apps Vault was designed to support? I can see the risks if you've convinced that "lega

Re: Exchange server alternative?

2014-02-09 Thread Paul Robert Marino
You know what you also can't do with Gmail create a SOX compliant export for regulators if you get audited.So if there is reason to believe that your companies emails contains data pertinent to the financial transactions of your company and your company gets audited you are in deep trouble. It is a

Re: Exchange server alternative?

2014-02-09 Thread David Sommerseth
On 09/02/14 07:25, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > For folks recommending Zimbra or Zarafa, I'd be very curious how they > migrate data from Exchange clients. I'm sure that part's not just > "drop-in replacement". There are a few ways. One is to use a utility provided in the Zimbra (not sure if it's o

Re: Exchange server alternative?

2014-02-08 Thread zxq9
infosec is the primary reason many foreign firms won't allow Google anything, especially after the whole NSA blowup. Knowing someone somewhere is going to try capping your bits is one thing, knowing that your provider has a standing contract to serve your data on a platter is another. On Saturd

Re: Exchange server alternative?

2014-02-08 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 6:53 PM, Paul Robert Marino wrote: > info sec is not the problem it's a record keeping issue. Info sec for email is *always* a problem. It's also critical to the record keeping: the ability to re-route, or delete, or backfill email needs to be handled. (Do not get me *start

Re: Exchange server alternative?

2014-02-08 Thread Paul Robert Marino
info sec is not the problem it's a record keeping issue. On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 1:47 PM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 12:26 PM, Paul Robert Marino > wrote: >> Nico >> I tend to agree with you there are so many inexpensive mail services >> out there now I haven't tried to do

Re: Exchange server alternative?

2014-02-08 Thread David Sommerseth
- > > From:Steven Haigh mailto:net...@crc.id.au>> > > Sent: Saturday 8th February 2014 13:45 > > To: scientific-linux-users@fnal.gov > <mailto:scientific-linux-users@fnal.gov> > > Subject: Re: Exchange server alternative? > >

Re: Exchange server alternative?

2014-02-08 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 12:26 PM, Paul Robert Marino wrote: > Nico > I tend to agree with you there are so many inexpensive mail services > out there now I haven't tried to do this kind of thing in many years. > But its not an option for every one especially it you work for a large > company then i

Re: Exchange server alternative?

2014-02-08 Thread Paul Robert Marino
Nico I tend to agree with you there are so many inexpensive mail services out there now I haven't tried to do this kind of thing in many years. But its not an option for every one especially it you work for a large company then it can still be cheaper to do it in house or depending on the industry

Re: Exchange server alternative?

2014-02-08 Thread Gerhard Schneider
Am 08.02.2014 03:42, Steven Haigh wrote: > > Thunderbird can use caldav for calendar data, but the integration > doesn't really seem to be there. As for contacts, this has the similar > problem. > > I'd also be very interested in a method to sync calendar + contacts that > can be easily tied into

Re: Exchange server alternative?

2014-02-08 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
I've not tried that particular tool. I can only say "good luck, we've seen that tried many times now". We don't need yet *another* attempt at a drop-in replacement. Break the cycle, and save some money and improve workflow at the same time. Email and messaging are now available as very effective S

Re: Exchange server alternative?

2014-02-08 Thread Paul Robert Marino
have you looked at openchange http://www.openchange.org/index.html It's been a few years since I looked at it but the goal is to create a exchange server replacement. On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > Whoops, sorry! I thought you were looking for an AD replacement, not >

Re: Exchange server alternative?

2014-02-08 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
Whoops, sorry! I thought you were looking for an AD replacement, not an Exchange replacement. To replace Exchange, run, do not walk, to Google Apps for Business. It works very well, you don't have to maintain your own expert IT infrastructure to deal with the vagaries and backups and security of e

Re: Exchange server alternative?

2014-02-08 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
My toolchain for building a complete Samba 4.1.4 on Scientific Linux 6 is available at https://github.com/nkadel/samba4repo. It's set up to set up a local yum repository for the necessary dependencies, and uses the EPEL published tool "mock" to build the toolchain in a clean local environment with

Re: Exchange server alternative?

2014-02-08 Thread Hasan Akgöz
; Sent: Saturday 8th February 2014 13:45 >> > To: scientific-linux-users@fnal.gov >> > Subject: Re: Exchange server alternative? >> > >> > On 08/02/14 13:08, ToddAndMargo wrote: >> > > So I was wondering what you all thought would be a good >> >

Re: Exchange server alternative?

2014-02-08 Thread Hasan Akgöz
Zimba is prefect. 2014-02-08 7:42 GMT+02:00 Bill Maidment : > Have you looked at zarafa? > Cheers > Bill > > > -Original message- > > From:Steven Haigh > > Sent: Saturday 8th February 2014 13:45 > > To: scientific-linux-users@fnal.gov > >

RE: Exchange server alternative?

2014-02-07 Thread Bill Maidment
Have you looked at zarafa? Cheers Bill -Original message- > From:Steven Haigh > Sent: Saturday 8th February 2014 13:45 > To: scientific-linux-users@fnal.gov > Subject: Re: Exchange server alternative? > > On 08/02/14 13:08, ToddAndMargo wrote: > > So I wa

Re: Exchange server alternative?

2014-02-07 Thread Steven Haigh
On 08/02/14 13:08, ToddAndMargo wrote: > So I was wondering what you all thought would be a good > SL6.x substitute for Exchange server? I'd actually be interested in this too... I wrote a howto[1] on getting virtual mail hosting using mysql + postfix + dovecot - however the big thing that is miss