SL7x and the 'epel' repo

2015-03-19 Thread John Pilkington
I had been under the impression that it was likely to be safe to use 'epel' packages, so, wishing to provide feedback, I installed a new version of qtwebkit from epel-testing. No hint of problems during installation, but programs using it failed. I now have them apparently working after insta

Re: SL7x and the 'epel' repo

2015-03-24 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 03/19/2015 03:34 AM, John Pilkington wrote: > I had been under the impression that it was likely to be safe to use 'epel' > packages, so, wishing to provide feedback, I installed a new version of > qtwebkit from epel-testing. No hint of problems during installation, but > programs using it fail

Re: SL7x and the 'epel' repo

2015-03-26 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 4:13 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote: > On 03/19/2015 03:34 AM, John Pilkington wrote: >> >> I had been under the impression that it was likely to be safe to use 'epel' >> packages, so, wishing to provide feedback, I installed a new version of >> qtwebkit from epel-testing. No hi

Re: SL7x and the 'epel' repo

2015-03-26 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 5:59 AM, Tom H wrote: > On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 4:13 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote: >> The ultimate cause of this issue was an upgrade of glib2 by RedHat in RHEL >> 7.1. And because the glib2 library does not use symbol versioning, rpm cannot >> automatically add the proper r

Re: SL7x and the 'epel' repo

2015-03-27 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 7:28 AM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 5:59 AM, Tom H wrote: >> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 4:13 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote: >>> >>> The ultimate cause of this issue was an upgrade of glib2 by RedHat in RHEL >>> 7.1. And because the glib2 library does not

Re: SL7x and the 'epel' repo

2015-03-27 Thread John Pilkington
On 27/03/15 08:53, Tom H wrote: On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 7:28 AM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 5:59 AM, Tom H wrote: On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 4:13 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote: The ultimate cause of this issue was an upgrade of glib2 by RedHat in RHEL 7.1. And because the gl

Re: SL7x and the 'epel' repo

2015-03-27 Thread Steve Gaarder
On Fri, 27 Mar 2015, John Pilkington wrote: But my original point was that glib2-2.36.3-5, which I see in SL7x, was incompatible with the new (in epel-testing) qtwebkit, which needed glib2-2.40.0-4 from SL7rolling built off TUV's 7.1 It seems that what I see as SL7x is still 7.0. The naming

Re: SL7x and the 'epel' repo

2015-03-27 Thread Steve Gaarder
On Fri, 27 Mar 2015, Steve Gaarder wrote: On Fri, 27 Mar 2015, John Pilkington wrote: But my original point was that glib2-2.36.3-5, which I see in SL7x, was incompatible with the new (in epel-testing) qtwebkit, which needed glib2-2.40.0-4 from SL7rolling built off TUV's 7.1 It seems that

Re: SL7x and the 'epel' repo

2015-03-27 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 7:47 AM, Steve Gaarder wrote: > Thinking about this some more, I assume that EPEL is actually built against > the latest from TUV, so 7.1 in this case. Correct? Yes, that is correct. There is a similar discussion thread on the CentOS mailing list: http://lists.centos.o

Re: SL7x and the 'epel' repo

2015-03-27 Thread Steve Gaarder
In that case, I'm thinking that it could be useful to maintain an EPEL mirror that does not get updated between TUV's release and the SL release. I could do that for my own use or it could be a community effort. Thoughts? Steve Gaarder System Administrator, Dept of Mathematics Cornell Universi

RE: SL7x and the 'epel' repo

2015-03-27 Thread Tim Kanuka
From: owner-scientific-linux-us...@listserv.fnal.gov [mailto:owner-scientific-linux-us...@listserv.fnal.gov] On Behalf Of Steve Gaarder Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 09:45 To: Akemi Yagi Cc: SL Users Subject: Re: SL7x and the 'epel' repo In that case, I'm thinking that it could be useful

Re: SL7x and the 'epel' repo

2015-03-27 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 9:02 AM, Tim Kanuka wrote: > I think having a EPEL mirror in the way described by Steve is an excellent > idea. It exactly parallels my own requirement (and I suppose any site's > requirement) of managing updates to many machines. The only way to guarantee > that you are

Re: SL7x and the 'epel' repo

2015-03-27 Thread Steve Gaarder
On Fri, 27 Mar 2015, Akemi Yagi wrote: One thing that is different from EPEL is that ELRepo's el7.1 packages that are _not_ backward compatible will not install on systems < 7.1. yum will complain. My understanding is that EPEL packages do not have such 'Requires'. Au contraire - right now, for

Re: SL7x and the 'epel' repo

2015-03-27 Thread John Pilkington
On 27/03/15 18:01, Steve Gaarder wrote: On Fri, 27 Mar 2015, Akemi Yagi wrote: One thing that is different from EPEL is that ELRepo's el7.1 packages that are _not_ backward compatible will not install on systems < 7.1. yum will complain. My understanding is that EPEL packages do not have such 'R

Re: SL7x and the 'epel' repo

2015-03-28 Thread John Pilkington
On 27/03/15 18:33, John Pilkington wrote: On 27/03/15 18:01, Steve Gaarder wrote: On Fri, 27 Mar 2015, Akemi Yagi wrote: One thing that is different from EPEL is that ELRepo's el7.1 packages that are _not_ backward compatible will not install on systems < 7.1. yum will complain. My understandin

Re: SL7x and the 'epel' repo

2015-03-29 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 6:04 AM, John Pilkington wrote: > On 27/03/15 08:53, Tom H wrote: >> >> Point releases are just a snapshot of the packages at a certain point >> in time, like Debian 6.x/7.x and Ubuntu 12.04.x/14.04.x. >> >> RHEL offers its customers an EUS program for them to remain at a p

Re: SL7x and the 'epel' repo

2015-03-29 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Steve Gaarder wrote: > On Fri, 27 Mar 2015, Steve Gaarder wrote: >> >> I see this also with libgtop2. I currently cannot install the Mate >> group because the packages in EPEL require libgtop-2.0.so.10, which is >> in the package libgtop2-2.28.4-7.el7.x86_64.rpm,

Re: SL7x and the 'epel' repo

2015-03-29 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 11:45 AM, Steve Gaarder wrote: > > In that case, I'm thinking that it could be useful to maintain an EPEL > mirror that does not get updated between TUV's release and the SL release. I > could do that for my own use or it could be a community effort. Thoughts? I was going

Re: SL7x and the 'epel' repo

2015-03-29 Thread John Pilkington
On 29/03/15 14:44, Tom H wrote: On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 6:04 AM, John Pilkington wrote: On 27/03/15 08:53, Tom H wrote: Point releases are just a snapshot of the packages at a certain point in time, like Debian 6.x/7.x and Ubuntu 12.04.x/14.04.x. RHEL offers its customers an EUS program for

SL 7.1 schedule? (was Re: SL7x and the 'epel' repo)

2015-03-27 Thread Steve Gaarder
It would be very helpful to me if I could have some idea of when SL 7.1 is likely to emerge. That will tell me whether I can just wait or need to come up with some kind of workaround for the EPEL problem. thanks, Steve Gaarder System Administrator, Dept of Mathematics Cornell University, Itha

Re: SL 7.1 schedule? (was Re: SL7x and the 'epel' repo)

2015-03-27 Thread Mark Stodola
On 03/27/2015 01:39 PM, Steve Gaarder wrote: It would be very helpful to me if I could have some idea of when SL 7.1 is likely to emerge. That will tell me whether I can just wait or need to come up with some kind of workaround for the EPEL problem. thanks, Steve Gaarder System Administrator,