Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Angry White Man: The bigoted past of Ron Paul

2008-01-21 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
James thanks for this lesson on Libertarians. When I lived in Philly, I never encountered the Ron Paul type of libertarian-- in fact, I found I liked most that I encountered. So, finding out that there were legions like Ron Paul was a shock. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good questions Keith.

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Angry White Man: The bigoted past of Ron Paul

2008-01-21 Thread KeithBJohnson
and my experience--growing up in Texas, now living in Georgia--has been just the opposite -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] James thanks for this lesson on Libertarians. When I lived in Philly, I never

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Angry White Man: The bigoted past of Ron Paul

2008-01-20 Thread KeithBJohnson
Great summary, thanks for educating me on an area where I wasn't all that well informed. Reading your thoughts below, i see yet another example of how the two main parties leech off and absorb so many ideas that smaller groups have. How do you feel about the concept of a multi-party system in

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Angry White Man: The bigoted past of Ron Paul

2008-01-20 Thread KeithBJohnson
good points, James. And thanks for keeping me honest and accurate. I should have more specifically specified that it's one type of Libertarian that bothers me, which is what I meant by the ones I've encountered here in Georgia. Still, to be frank, despite my knowing that there are more liberal

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Angry White Man: The bigoted past of Ron Paul

2008-01-20 Thread james
Yeah, I'm not excited about the two-party system. I also find the idea of a prime minister vs. popularity contest president appealing. Both parties are actively working together to keep third parties from challenging their dominance. A major party status in some states means that Democrats and

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Angry White Man: The bigoted past of Ron Paul

2008-01-20 Thread james
Good questions Keith. Part of it may be where you live and a large part of it is our lazy American media. Paleos and Neos tend to live in southern states and are often former Republicans. Problem is - few really completely leave the GOP. They are LINO's (Libertarians in Name Only) and they are

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Angry White Man: The bigoted past of Ron Paul

2008-01-20 Thread KeithBJohnson
You answered it right on. For the last several years I've noticed that the people I hear who claim to be Libertarian--and I didn't mention Neal Boortz, though i was thinking of him, 'cause I wasn't sure you'd heard of him--have gotten more conversative, and, frankly, more racist sounding.

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Angry White Man: The bigoted past of Ron Paul

2008-01-19 Thread Martin
George, it used to be that way here. I think that Democrats had it changed after Cynthia McKinney got run out of office a few years back, because her district, the one I live in, covers most of Dekalb COunty and part of Gwinnett County. The former is majority Black (last census, Whites were 8%

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Angry White Man: The bigoted past of Ron Paul

2008-01-19 Thread james
As someone who has been involved with the libertarian movement for about a decade, I can shed a little light on things. Like the Democratic Party and Republican Party - there are many factions constituting the Libertarian Party and libertarianism in general. There are libertarians,

[scifinoir2] Re: Angry White Man: The bigoted past of Ron Paul

2008-01-18 Thread g123curious
This was changed in Massachusetts. You can vote any way you please in the Primary on February 5th. George --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Keith, that also means that we'd have to scrap the voting system as is, get rid of voting rules like the one here in

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Angry White Man: The bigoted past of Ron Paul

2008-01-17 Thread KeithBJohnson
i missed that, heard him on Meet the PRess saying his message had wide appeal, and, unfortunately, that included some deemed racists--but that's not his fault or an indication of any negatives in his message. -- Original message -- From: B. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] This

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Angry White Man: The bigoted past of Ron Paul

2008-01-17 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
Yeh... Gimme a break, no other authors listed and regular theme of support of kkk, anti King, anti Black, anti gay rhetoric, his pix, and no disclaimers in 30 years? uh...right. B. Smith wrote: BTW did you see him try to defend himself? According to him Dr. King and Rosa Parks were his

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Angry White Man: The bigoted past of Ron Paul

2008-01-17 Thread KeithBJohnson
back to my feeling we need a true multi-party system. maybe a small but viable minority could do something to get ideals like his better ones out there -- Original message -- From: Daryle [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've heard a lot of this from early in the campaign, and it's