Re: [scots-l] Tempi and other not so dumb questions

2002-03-14 Thread Toby Rider
On Thu, 14 Mar 2002, Derek Hoy wrote: Bob said: When I was in high school, we lived at Fort Riley, Kansas, an infantry post. They played bugle calls several (15?) times a day. Of course they played retreat to take down the flag, which was preceeded by firing the howitzer. Every

Re: [scots-l] Tempi and other not so dumb questions

2002-03-13 Thread Carla and Bob Rogers
This is from a note to a CD by the Household Division (they do the Changing of the Guard stuff I think): - The beating or sounding of Retreat has its origins in the sixteenth century When I was in high school, we lived at Fort Riley, Kansas, an infantry post. They played bugle calls

Re: [scots-l] Tempi and other not so dumb questions

2002-03-12 Thread Derek Hoy
Stuart wrote: The retreat march is not, as Stan suggests, necessarily a march time tune which would be marched to - as often as not it was played as part of the evening ritual in the military camp as day duties gave way to night ones. It was not linked to the military manoeuvre of

Re: [scots-l] Tempi and other not so dumb questions

2002-02-19 Thread Bruce Olson
Jack Campin wrote: I guess these are mostly Amercan tunes, but how do you feel about rattlers--which are sometimes noted as retreats? Morgan's Rattler also seems to be kind of speedy, but maybe i'm playing it wrong. Morgan Rattler is from the 1780s, well before the retreat march was

Re: [scots-l] Tempi and other not so dumb questions

2002-02-18 Thread Jack Campin
I guess these are mostly Amercan tunes, but how do you feel about rattlers--which are sometimes noted as retreats? Morgan's Rattler also seems to be kind of speedy, but maybe i'm playing it wrong. Morgan Rattler is from the 1780s, well before the retreat march was invented. I had no idea it

Re: [scots-l] Tempi and other not so dumb questions

2002-02-17 Thread Clifford Abrams
I find your observations interesting, especially in that a march usually listed as a retreat like Battle of the Somme seems to want-- at least for me-- to move along a bit. I guess these are mostly Amercan tunes, but how do you feel about rattlers--which are sometimes noted as retreats? Morgan's

Re: [scots-l] Tempi and other not so dumb questions

2002-02-16 Thread SUZANNE MACDONALD
Re Stuart Eydmann's recent e-mail on the subject: I am very interested in the work you refer to which was done by Dr. Peter Cooke... to explain the internal rhythmic variation in traditional players which gives the music its particular lift, lit and drive. Is it available? Re the issue

Re: [scots-l] Tempi and other not so dumb questions

2002-02-16 Thread Kate Dunlay or David Greenberg
Re Stuart Eydmann's recent e-mail on the subject: I am very interested in the work you refer to which was done by Dr. Peter Cooke... to explain the internal rhythmic variation in traditional players which gives the music its particular lift, lit and drive. Is it available? Alexander, we

Re: [scots-l] Tempi and other not so dumb questions

2002-02-15 Thread stan reeves
All this stuff about Tempi is sort of interesting. What is right, is not for me as interesting as WHY certain tempi work. Human Physiology dosn't vary that much (Dinner plates are the same size all over the world). Understanding tempi is also about understanding its function. Marches should be