Re: Oh Dear, Where to start?!

2003-07-04 Thread Devdas Bhagat
On 02/07/03 13:04 -0700, Chris Berry wrote: > >From: Paul Hawkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Chris didn't mention that he was talking about the AVG free edition. We > >are running AVG on our servers and workstations. It is really a great > >piece of antivirus software. > > That part must have gott

Re: Oh Dear, Where to start?!

2003-07-03 Thread Chris Berry
From: Paul Hawkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Chris didn't mention that he was talking about the AVG free edition. We are running AVG on our servers and workstations. It is really a great piece of antivirus software. That part must have gotten snipped out because what I was originally talking about i

Re: Oh Dear, Where to start?!

2003-07-02 Thread Paul Hawkinson
license at www.grisoft.com after you click "Download >AVG Free Edition". > >Not only is it limited to non-networked boxes, you can't use it in a >commercial environment either. The "Professional" edition is pretty >reasonably priced though. This is a very cle

RE: Oh Dear, Where to start?!

2003-06-30 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 June 2003 21:31 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Oh Dear, Where to start?! Chris, What do you mean when you say ; "There are a number of free scanners, but nearly all of them (including AVG) are not legal to run in a networked environment"

RE: Oh Dear, Where to start?!

2003-06-30 Thread Brad Griffin
> From: Paul Hawkinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, 27 June 2003 06:31 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Oh Dear, Where to start?! > > > In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Chris, > > > > What do you mean when you sa

RE: Oh Dear, Where to start?!

2003-06-30 Thread James Baumgardner
INSTALLED IN ANY NETWORKED ENVIRONMENT! NO TECHNICAL SUPPORT IS AVAILABLE WITH AVG 6.0 Free Edition. -Original Message- From: Paul Hawkinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 3:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Oh Dear, Where to start?! In-Reply-To: <[EM

Re: Oh Dear, Where to start?!

2003-06-30 Thread bugtraq
> Then, start on policies that help with passwords on post-its and such, > you could certainly start that step off in parallel with the firewalling > issue. I always had fun "Post-It hunting" in my office(s). Each > Post-It costs $50 for a return. Use the $50 fees to fund purchases of equipment

Re: Oh Dear, Where to start?!

2003-06-30 Thread Chris Berry
From: Paul Hawkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Chris, What do you mean when you say ; "There are a number of free scanners, but nearly all of them (including AVG) are not legal to run in a networked environment" I wasn't aware that it was "Illegal" to run AVG in a networked environment. What do you mean

Re: Oh Dear, Where to start?!

2003-06-27 Thread Paul Hawkinson
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RE: Oh Dear, Where to start?!

2003-06-27 Thread altug
Steve Frank [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 4:56 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Oh Dear, Where to start?! > > > Hey everyone, > > Ok... I am in a bit of a jam here and I was hoping to > get some feedback from some of you with appropriate &g

RE: Oh Dear, Where to start?!

2003-06-27 Thread tony tony
Alex and Steve, I would not do what Alex recommends. You cannot go in like a commando and start changing everyone os, desktop configuration, apply dhcp/dns, without doing an impact analysis on current application and LAN connectivity requirements the current users have. The last thing you want t

Re: Oh Dear, Where to start?!

2003-06-27 Thread jon rodman
I would have to bring up the point that depending on what type of Government office your working for they are probably governed the Department of Commerce. The Department of Commerce created NIST, for the purpose of dealing with IT and IT security, as well as other matters. You will find approved

RE: Oh Dear, Where to start?!

2003-06-27 Thread AKaasjager
Tony, You right. I was just not really expecting him to go out and do it like that! I was just not getting into detail ('> I know it's not very detailed, and lacks in more specific info;'), just pointing in the direction I would go. Careful analysis is ALWAYS necessary! If not, you'll find just

Re: Oh Dear, Where to start?!

2003-06-26 Thread Bill Hardstone
If I were start on this assignment, I would do the following. 1. Write up a risk assessment 2. Develop a plan of action documents based on templates from SANS website 3. Develop a good working relationship with someone in the senior management and get their buy-in on this. (You m

Fwd: Oh Dear, Where to start?!

2003-06-26 Thread Rick Jones
Believe it or not, I really envy you. There's nothing like a total mess to clean up to teach you something. You know, experience is the best teacher yada yada yada. It seems to me you need two things: an organizational policy, and a plan. Here's how I would approach it... Since it is a gove

RE: Oh Dear, Where to start?!

2003-06-26 Thread Mitchell Rowton
a start in the right direction. > > > -Sanjay > > -Original Message- > From: Steve Frank [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 7:56 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Oh Dear, Where to start?! > > > Hey everyone, > >

RE: Oh Dear, Where to start?!

2003-06-26 Thread AKaasjager
> So basically, if you had to start from nothing, where > would you start first? What would you consider to be > the most important things to be implemented? I am > literally working from ground zero here... heh! Ahhh... the joys of being a sysadmin :-) If I were you, I'd first of all put a lock

Re: Oh Dear, Where to start?!

2003-06-26 Thread Jeff
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 04:55:46AM -0700, Steve Frank wrote: > > Hey everyone, > > Ok... I am in a bit of a jam here and I was hoping to get some feedback > from some of you with appropriate experience in the field of network > security and policy development. > ok. > I am an senior at RIT stu

Re: Oh Dear, Where to start?!

2003-06-26 Thread Patrick Boucher
Greetings, Well, I've been in your situation. And it should not be a very difficult task. First of all you want to know what kind of level of Security your Org need. First i'll check the Ciritical applications.. - Are they in a DMZ - Are they securely configured and installed. - Do a Backup

Re: Oh Dear, Where to start?!

2003-06-26 Thread Mitch Pirtle
> So basically, if you had to start from nothing, where > would you start first? What would you consider to be > the most important things to be implemented? I am > literally working from ground zero here... heh! Sounds familiar, I took on the same challenge but it was at a global organization...

Re: Oh Dear, Where to start?!

2003-06-26 Thread Chris Berry
From: Steve Frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hey everyone, Ok... I am in a bit of a jam here and I was hoping to get some feedback from some of you with appropriate experience in the field of network security and policy development. I am an senior at RIT studying (essentially) systems administration. My m

RE: Oh Dear, Where to start?!

2003-06-26 Thread Drew Hunt
PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 4:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Oh Dear, Where to start?! Hey everyone, Ok... I am in a bit of a jam here and I was hoping to get some feedback from some of you with appropriate experience in the field of network security and policy development. I am a

Re: Oh Dear, Where to start?!

2003-06-26 Thread Jason K. Boykin
On Wednesday 25 June 2003 06:55 am, Steve Frank wrote: -snip > What I need advice on is the following: If you were > introduced to a mixed network (literally all versions > of windows since 3.1 and mac systems) that have no > updates, backups, or patches installed...

RE: Oh Dear, Where to start?!

2003-06-26 Thread sharon_joyner
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RE: Oh Dear, Where to start?!

2003-06-26 Thread Des Ward
rs by using VLANs. This is going to patience and time as the song goes. Good luck Des -Original Message- From: Steve Frank [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 June 2003 12:56 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Oh Dear, Where to start?! Hey everyone, Ok... I am in a bit of a jam here and

AW: Oh Dear, Where to start?!

2003-06-26 Thread Meidinger Christopher
Chris Meidinger Tullastrasse 70 79108 Freiburg -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Steve Frank [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 1:56 PM An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: Oh Dear, Where to start?! Hey everyone, Ok... I am in a bit of a jam here and I was hoping to get some fee

Re: Oh Dear, Where to start?!

2003-06-26 Thread Nicholas Diotte
In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Okay wow, Sounds like your in a mess of trouble... For policies, I recommend reading http://www.sans.org/resources/policies/ this will give you a great start.. this is what most of my policies are based off, and I've yet to run into any trouble with them. Next

RE: Oh Dear, Where to start?!

2003-06-26 Thread sanjay . patel
anjay -Original Message- From: Steve Frank [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 7:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Oh Dear, Where to start?! Hey everyone, Ok... I am in a bit of a jam here and I was hoping to get some feedback from some of you with appropriate experience i

Re: Oh Dear, Where to start?!

2003-06-26 Thread chayden
> So basically, if you had to start from nothing, where > would you start first? A good place to start would be http://www.sans.org/resources/policies/ Has policy information, links, and sample policies... > wouldnt be so bad normally I guess, but there is > virtually no budget allocated to h

RE: Oh Dear, Where to start?!

2003-06-26 Thread Benz Jessica-p53552
Steve, I would start with looking at ISO17799. Jessica -Original Message- From: Steve Frank [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 4:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Oh Dear, Where to start?! Hey everyone, Ok... I am in a bit of a jam here and I was hoping to

Oh Dear, Where to start?!

2003-06-25 Thread Steve Frank
Hey everyone, Ok... I am in a bit of a jam here and I was hoping to get some feedback from some of you with appropriate experience in the field of network security and policy development. I am an senior at RIT studying (essentially) systems administration. My main focus and priority has been comp