Re: Oh Dear, Where to start?!

2003-07-04 Thread Devdas Bhagat
On 02/07/03 13:04 -0700, Chris Berry wrote: From: Paul Hawkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chris didn't mention that he was talking about the AVG free edition. We are running AVG on our servers and workstations. It is really a great piece of antivirus software. That part must have gotten snipped

Re: Oh Dear, Where to start?!

2003-07-02 Thread Paul Hawkinson
on the shareware concept :) cheers- lx:) -Original Message- From: Paul Hawkinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 June 2003 21:31 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Oh Dear, Where to start?! Chris, What do you mean when you say ; There are a number of free scanners, but nearly all

Re: Oh Dear, Where to start?!

2003-06-30 Thread Chris Berry
From: Paul Hawkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chris, What do you mean when you say ; There are a number of free scanners, but nearly all of them (including AVG) are not legal to run in a networked environment I wasn't aware that it was Illegal to run AVG in a networked environment. What do you mean by

Re: Oh Dear, Where to start?!

2003-06-30 Thread bugtraq
Then, start on policies that help with passwords on post-its and such, you could certainly start that step off in parallel with the firewalling issue. I always had fun Post-It hunting in my office(s). Each Post-It costs $50 for a return. Use the $50 fees to fund purchases of equipment and

RE: Oh Dear, Where to start?!

2003-06-30 Thread James Baumgardner
NOT BE INSTALLED IN ANY NETWORKED ENVIRONMENT! NO TECHNICAL SUPPORT IS AVAILABLE WITH AVG 6.0 Free Edition. -Original Message- From: Paul Hawkinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 3:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Oh Dear, Where to start?! In-Reply-To: [EMAIL

RE: Oh Dear, Where to start?!

2003-06-30 Thread Brad Griffin
From: Paul Hawkinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 27 June 2003 06:31 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Oh Dear, Where to start?! In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chris, What do you mean when you say ; There are a number of free scanners, but nearly all

RE: Oh Dear, Where to start?!

2003-06-30 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: 26 June 2003 21:31 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Oh Dear, Where to start?! Chris, What do you mean when you say ; There are a number of free scanners, but nearly all of them (including AVG) are not legal to run in a networked environment I wasn't aware that it was Illegal to run

RE: Oh Dear, Where to start?!

2003-06-27 Thread AKaasjager
Tony, You right. I was just not really expecting him to go out and do it like that! I was just not getting into detail (' I know it's not very detailed, and lacks in more specific info;'), just pointing in the direction I would go. Careful analysis is ALWAYS necessary! If not, you'll find just

Re: Oh Dear, Where to start?!

2003-06-27 Thread jon rodman
I would have to bring up the point that depending on what type of Government office your working for they are probably governed the Department of Commerce. The Department of Commerce created NIST, for the purpose of dealing with IT and IT security, as well as other matters. You will find approved

RE: Oh Dear, Where to start?!

2003-06-27 Thread tony tony
Alex and Steve, I would not do what Alex recommends. You cannot go in like a commando and start changing everyone os, desktop configuration, apply dhcp/dns, without doing an impact analysis on current application and LAN connectivity requirements the current users have. The last thing you want

RE: Oh Dear, Where to start?!

2003-06-27 Thread altug
Hi steve and all, Some kind of security countermeasures dont require any budget, for example saying people not to write down their passwords instead of their minds. I think, you first have to develop a basic outline of a security policy. Set up a budget, and propose it to the management.

Re: Oh Dear, Where to start?!

2003-06-27 Thread Paul Hawkinson
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RE: Oh Dear, Where to start?!

2003-06-26 Thread Benz Jessica-p53552
Steve, I would start with looking at ISO17799. Jessica -Original Message- From: Steve Frank [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 4:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Oh Dear, Where to start?! Hey everyone, Ok... I am in a bit of a jam here and I was hoping to

Re: Oh Dear, Where to start?!

2003-06-26 Thread chayden
So basically, if you had to start from nothing, where would you start first? A good place to start would be http://www.sans.org/resources/policies/ Has policy information, links, and sample policies... wouldnt be so bad normally I guess, but there is virtually no budget allocated to help

RE: Oh Dear, Where to start?!

2003-06-26 Thread sanjay . patel
Why not start with a risk analysis and find out what are business critical devices, applications and servers. Assign each identified device a priority number. This should become your roadmap. This is obviously a very high level approach. But it's a start in the right direction. -Sanjay

Re: Oh Dear, Where to start?!

2003-06-26 Thread Nicholas Diotte
In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Okay wow, Sounds like your in a mess of trouble... For policies, I recommend reading http://www.sans.org/resources/policies/ this will give you a great start.. this is what most of my policies are based off, and I've yet to run into any trouble with them. Next,

RE: Oh Dear, Where to start?!

2003-06-26 Thread Des Ward
First point Steve is that this is going to take a lot longer than three months to do. You have to change a culture and this is the biggest problem. OK, the first point is to set the wheels in motion to make a security policy that states that anyone breaching you security policy will be

Re: Oh Dear, Where to start?!

2003-06-26 Thread Jason K. Boykin
On Wednesday 25 June 2003 06:55 am, Steve Frank wrote: -snip What I need advice on is the following: If you were introduced to a mixed network (literally all versions of windows since 3.1 and mac systems) that have no updates, backups, or patches installed...

RE: Oh Dear, Where to start?!

2003-06-26 Thread Drew Hunt
Here are my 2 cents: Have a basic plan. It will have to be reworked over and over but don't bite off more than you can chew. Have meaningful goals and attainable objectives. Get support! You will need upper-level support to approve and support your seemingly never ending stream of changes and

Re: Oh Dear, Where to start?!

2003-06-26 Thread Chris Berry
From: Steve Frank [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hey everyone, Ok... I am in a bit of a jam here and I was hoping to get some feedback from some of you with appropriate experience in the field of network security and policy development. I am an senior at RIT studying (essentially) systems administration. My

Re: Oh Dear, Where to start?!

2003-06-26 Thread Patrick Boucher
Greetings, Well, I've been in your situation. And it should not be a very difficult task. First of all you want to know what kind of level of Security your Org need. First i'll check the Ciritical applications.. - Are they in a DMZ - Are they securely configured and installed. - Do a Backup

Re: Oh Dear, Where to start?!

2003-06-26 Thread Jeff
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 04:55:46AM -0700, Steve Frank wrote: Hey everyone, Ok... I am in a bit of a jam here and I was hoping to get some feedback from some of you with appropriate experience in the field of network security and policy development. ok. I am an senior at RIT studying

RE: Oh Dear, Where to start?!

2003-06-26 Thread AKaasjager
So basically, if you had to start from nothing, where would you start first? What would you consider to be the most important things to be implemented? I am literally working from ground zero here... heh! Ahhh... the joys of being a sysadmin :-) If I were you, I'd first of all put a lock on

RE: Oh Dear, Where to start?!

2003-06-26 Thread Mitchell Rowton
Most organizations have many security policies (User ID and Password, Extranet, Firewall) But there should be one high level policy that basically states that information security is important to the company and assigns responsibility of security to certain group(s). This high level policy

Re: Oh Dear, Where to start?!

2003-06-26 Thread Bill Hardstone
If I were start on this assignment, I would do the following. 1. Write up a risk assessment 2. Develop a plan of action documents based on templates from SANS website 3. Develop a good working relationship with someone in the senior management and get their buy-in on this. (You