RE: RE: Telnet/SSL v SSH

2002-09-26 Thread Chris Berry
izing that ssl is a tunneling protocol, while ssh is remote login one) >From: "Shawn Nunley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "'Chris Berry'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: RE: Telnet/SSL v SSH >Date: Wed,

Re: RE: Telnet/SSL v SSH

2002-09-26 Thread Peter 'Luna' Runestig
From: "Chris Berry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [snip] > SSL-Secure Sockets Layer: Basically an add on bandaid type approach to make > inheirently insecure connections like telnet and ftp more secure by > encrypting transmissions at the SOCKET level. This system does not have > nearly the same robustnes

Re: RE: Telnet/SSL v SSH

2002-09-26 Thread Brad Arlt
On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 11:54:17AM +0200, voguemaster wrote: > The only hint I have about the diff between SSH and SSL is the message > I replied to. When I was talking about elaborating on tunneling I was > basically asking what can I do with tunneling. Neither the SSL or the SSH > websites give

Re: RE: Telnet/SSL v SSH

2002-09-26 Thread voguemaster
le. >> > >> >http://www.google.com >> > >> >If you put both of your terms into Google you will get more than enough >> >information to help you out. Just as a friendly piece of advise though, >> >don't ask a question on a newsgroup, have p

Re: RE: Telnet/SSL v SSH

2002-09-25 Thread voguemaster
Ok, first and foremost, thank you for your reply :) I just wanted to make some comments: > >SSH first and foremost is a terminal program. I believe your first >post was something to the effect of "Telnet over SSL, or SSH, help me >decide". I was NOT the original poster to the list. I wanted

Re: RE: Telnet/SSL v SSH

2002-09-25 Thread Chris Berry
n a newsgroup, have people answer you very nicely, > >and then come back and basically say, "That's nice, tell me again - this > >time in more detail." It's rude. > > > >Good luck on your search, man. > > > >--danielrm26 > > > > &g

Re: RE: RE: Telnet/SSL v SSH

2002-09-25 Thread voguemaster
You're right of course, and no need to apologize at all. In my post I didn't mean to ask people to show me the gory details of how to use SSH or SSL. I believe the original poster asked about differences in SSH vs. SSL when used as a remote login solution. What I was just asking is different in so

RE: RE: Telnet/SSL v SSH

2002-09-25 Thread Vachon, Scott
>Just one example: can I code a client/server applications and encrypt and >do authentication with SSL/SSH tunneling ? I've no idea, not from the >things I've read about those two. Yeah, SSH is a secure login and shell >for a remote system. That I know. It's more than that, isn't it ?? >I'm sorry

RE: Telnet/SSL v SSH

2002-09-24 Thread Daniel Miessler
ay, September 21, 2002 5:16 PM > To: netsec novice; Brad Arlt > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Telnet/SSL v SSH > > Question: > > > Thanks > Eli > > 20/09/02 18:47:23, Brad Arlt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >On Thu, Sep 19, 2002 at 10:02:49PM

Re: RE: Telnet/SSL v SSH

2002-09-24 Thread voguemaster
t; -Original Message- >> From: voguemaster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2002 5:16 PM >> To: netsec novice; Brad Arlt >> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Subject: Re: Telnet/SSL v SSH >> >> Question: >> >> >>

Re: RE: Telnet/SSL v SSH

2002-09-24 Thread netsec novice
ter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], netsec novice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Brad Arlt ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Daniel Miessler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: RE: Telnet/SSL v SSH >Date: Tue, 24 Sep 20

RE: RE: Telnet/SSL v SSH

2002-09-24 Thread Daniel Miessler
> Please check the thread sir. I asked the original question and was nicely surprised > at the friendly and informative responses. Thanks to everyone who replied. The > second request for information came as a response to my original post from a > second party. Well, then I stand corrected. I

Re: Telnet/SSL v SSH

2002-09-23 Thread voguemaster
Question: Can you elaborate more on SSL tunneling vs. SSH tunneling ? What are they used for and what can I do with them, and maybe point to some good resources ? Thanks Eli 20/09/02 18:47:23, Brad Arlt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Thu, Sep 19, 2002 at 10:02:49PM +, netsec novice wrote:

RE: Telnet/SSL v SSH

2002-09-21 Thread tide
Reading this: ``HTTPS support : you can sniff http SSL secured data... and even if the connection is made through a PROXY'' from: http://ettercap.sourceforge.net/ would make me feel bad while using telnet over ssl. Correct me, If I'm wrong but telnet and http trough an ssl tunnel is the very same

Re: Telnet/SSL v SSH

2002-09-20 Thread Alexandru Frangeti
Just go to www.linuxsecurity.org.that will light ya up ;-). As far as i'm concerned, a telnet is always exploitable, while ssh is a pretty stable encrypted communication environment. Regards, Alex Frangeti Sysadmin Astral Telecom Mangalia. On Thu, 19 Sep 2002, netsec novice wrote: > Can s

RE: Telnet/SSL v SSH

2002-09-20 Thread Daniel Miessler
> Can someone help me understand the difference between SSH and Telnet over > SSL? SSH is the 'secure shell', meaning that it was designed to do secure remote terminal type activities. Telnet over SSL is two things: 1. Telnet. Telnet is the old and insecure way of doing remote access to *nix

Re: Telnet/SSL v SSH

2002-09-20 Thread Brad Arlt
On Thu, Sep 19, 2002 at 10:02:49PM +, netsec novice wrote: > Can someone help me understand the difference between SSH and Telnet over > SSL? I will only talk about SSH v2 (and Telnet/SSL). On the most basic level there is little difference. SSH is a remote tty encryption standard. Telnet