Re: [sidr] various

2011-11-11 Thread Randy Bush
>> draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-ops-02 >> >>To prevent exposure of the internals of BGP Confederations [RFC5065], >>a BGPsec speaker which is a Member-AS of a Confederation MUST NOT >>sign updates sent to another Member-AS of the same Confederation. > > [WEG] does that mean that routes using

Re: [sidr] various

2011-11-11 Thread George, Wes
> From: Randy Bush [mailto:ra...@psg.com] > Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 10:41 PM > To: George, Wes > Cc: sidr wg list > Subject: various > > draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-ops-02 > >To prevent exposure of the internals of BGP Confederations > [RFC5065], >a BGPsec speaker which is a Member-AS of

[sidr] various

2011-11-11 Thread Randy Bush
to two of your comments, in my unpublished edit buffers draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-ops-02 To prevent exposure of the internals of BGP Confederations [RFC5065], a BGPsec speaker which is a Member-AS of a Confederation MUST NOT not sign updates sent to another Member-AS of the same Confederati

Re: [sidr] Beacons in a separate TCP

2011-11-11 Thread Jakob Heitz
If the router has other work, it can simply stop reading the tcp socket. That would put the tcp into persist state and the sender will stop sending. This is only possible if the beacons are in a separate tcp session. -- Jakob Heitz. On Nov 11, 2011, at 5:02 PM, "George, Wes" wrote: >> From:

Re: [sidr] Beacons in a separate TCP

2011-11-11 Thread George, Wes
> From: sidr-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:sidr-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > Jakob Heitz > > The beacons will be unlikely to come like the slow constant drizzle of > Seattle weather, but more like the quick cloudbursts of Miami weather. > Just guessing. > > Such beacons will cause head-of-line block

Re: [sidr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-protocol-01.txt

2011-11-11 Thread George, Wes
> From: sidr-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:sidr-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > Matt Lepinski > The -01 > version of the draft contains a mechanism (a field called pCount) > which attempts to address this issue by having route servers create > BGPSEC signatures without increasing the effective length

[sidr] presentations, jabber scribe and minute taker

2011-11-11 Thread Murphy, Sandra
Those who have slots for presentation at the sidr meeting please send slides to both chairs by Tuesday morning. Despite similar requests in the past, we seem to frequently have presentations that show up during the meeting. Please do not do that. Presentations must be uploaded for everyone to

Re: [sidr] WGLC for draft-ietf-sidr-algorithm-agility-03

2011-11-11 Thread Murphy, Sandra
Guys, guys, guys. Steve: making reference to a person's company concentrates too much on the personal. Please be more careful. Brian, Eric: If you meant "some individual contributors who I happen to know and discuss this with", saying "my colleagues" was subject to misinterpretation, especi

Re: [sidr] WGLC: draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-reqs

2011-11-11 Thread Sriram, Kotikalapudi
You may have missed noticing it... I had provided the reference and the numbers in my eralier email -- http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/sidr/current/msg03586.html According to http://bgpupdates.potaroo.net/instability/bgpupd.html the current global BGP system produces __ Average Prefixes per

Re: [sidr] WGLC: draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-reqs

2011-11-11 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 8:49 AM, Danny McPherson wrote: > > On Nov 11, 2011, at 8:19 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote: > > There's actually some research on this, I recall the number 'globally' > as 1.2 avg packing... but internally, that may be different, of > course. > > I'd be interested in a point

Re: [sidr] WGLC: draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-reqs

2011-11-11 Thread Danny McPherson
On Nov 11, 2011, at 8:19 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote: > > There's actually some research on this, I recall the number 'globally' > as 1.2 avg packing... but internally, that may be different, of > course. I'd be interested in a pointer to that Chris, if you could pass it along. The only quanti

Re: [sidr] WGLC: draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-reqs

2011-11-11 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 1:54 PM, Jakob Heitz wrote: > Don't forget, BGPSEC sends one prefix per update. > Current traffic is 2 to 3 prefixes per update. There's actually some research on this, I recall the number 'globally' as 1.2 avg packing... but internally, that may be different, of course.