[sidr] change of email address

2014-04-10 Thread Murphy, Sandra
My company has instituted a strict limit to the size of our mailboxes. I am changing my subscription to the ietf lists to sa...@tislabs.com. No change of company, just email address. So if you see mail from sa...@tislabs.com, don't be alarmed, it is still me. (Actually has been me for a

Re: [sidr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sidr-rfc6490-bis-00.txt

2014-03-18 Thread Murphy, Sandra
Apologies to the authors. This was submitted during IETF week. Being a -00 draft, a request for approval was sent to the chairs, who missed it. --Sandy, speaking as a wg co-chair From: sidr [sidr-boun...@ietf.org] on behalf of internet-dra...@ietf.org

[sidr] minutes for IETF89

2014-03-13 Thread Murphy, Sandra
Matt Lepinski took minutes for the SIDR session in the IETF etherpad. I've uploaded a copy to the meeting materials site. http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/89/minutes/minutes-89-sidr The etherpad site (temporary) is http://etherpad.tools.ietf.org:9000/p/notes-ietf-89-sidr?useMonospaceFont=true

Re: [sidr] a new working group draft for RFC6810-bis

2014-03-12 Thread Murphy, Sandra
group draft for RFC6810-bis At Tue, 11 Mar 2014 14:31:10 +, Murphy, Sandra wrote: The chairs appoint Rob Austein and Randy Bush as co-editors of a draft draft-ietf-sidr-rfc6810-bis-00.txt to revise RFC6810, which they should submit at their earliest convenience. Uploaded. Posting to drafts

Re: [sidr] Updates to rpki-rtr protocol (RFC 6810 bis)

2014-03-11 Thread Murphy, Sandra
The comment from me about to provide that new draft was a comment about a new version of the router certs draft (draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-pki-profiles), so your comment applies.   The minutes note your comment during the discussion with Rob suggesting the need for more than one AS in the router

[sidr] a new working group draft for RFC6810-bis

2014-03-11 Thread Murphy, Sandra
The router needs the router - AS mappings for the bgpsec path validation to work, so the rpki-rtr protocol needs to provide that info to the routers. That means a new rpki-rtr PDU needs to be provided. The chairs have decided this need is clear and a new version of RFC6810 is needed with the

Re: [sidr] Updates to rpki-rtr protocol (RFC 6810 bis)

2014-03-07 Thread Murphy, Sandra
captured in the minutes: Steve Kent: As an author, we can fix this Answer: yes. --Sandy From: Murphy, Sandra Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 1:12 PM To: Rob Austein Cc: sidr@ietf.org; Randy Bush Subject: RE: [sidr] Updates to rpki-rtr protocol (RFC

Re: [sidr] Updates to rpki-rtr protocol (RFC 6810 bis)

2014-03-06 Thread Murphy, Sandra
So the draft does two things - adds a new PDU and makes some changes to the overall protocol function. I would expect that adding a new PDU would be a new document, not a revision to the protocol document. Would you agree? Since you are changing the protocol function anyway, I can see the

Re: [sidr] Updates to rpki-rtr protocol (RFC 6810 bis)

2014-03-06 Thread Murphy, Sandra
exactly one to at least one might be sufficient. I think that's substantive, not bureaucratic. --Sandy From: Randy Bush [ra...@psg.com] Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 1:37 PM To: Murphy, Sandra Cc: Rob Austein; sidr@ietf.org Subject: Re: [sidr] Updates

[sidr] a new working group draft

2014-03-06 Thread Murphy, Sandra
George explained in the meeting on Tuesday (and Rob and Matt had noted on the list long ago) that RFC6485 (*) and the CMS spec are not in sync wrt the mandatory signing algorithm. He also noted that all implementations follow the CMS spec. The chairs have decided that this is something that

Re: [sidr] jabber scribe; minutes taker; slides from presenters

2014-03-03 Thread Murphy, Sandra
From: Murphy, Sandra Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 7:18 PM To: sidr@ietf.org Subject: RE: jabber scribe; minutes taker; slides from presenters And number your slides, too. Please. --Sandy, speaking as wg co-chair From: Murphy, Sandra Sent

Re: [sidr] Man-in-the-middle attack

2014-03-03 Thread Murphy, Sandra
I think maybe the problem might be the following statement: Every CA instance has a corresponding CRL and Manifest. The CRL contains certificates which are revoked and the Manifest contains just Signed Objects. The manifest contains every signed object (except itself) that the CS produces.

[sidr] slides

2014-03-03 Thread Murphy, Sandra
Slides that have been received have been uploaded. (Notify chairs immediately if you think you've provided slides and the slides have not appeared on the meeting materials site.) Many of the presenters have not yet provided slides. IF YOU HAVE SLIDES, GET THEM IN SOON!! Presentations not

Re: [sidr] jabber scribe; minutes taker; slides from presenters

2014-03-03 Thread Murphy, Sandra
03, 2014 12:41 PM To: Murphy, Sandra Cc: sidr@ietf.org Subject: Re: [sidr] jabber scribe; minutes taker; slides from presenters I can take notes to help produce the minutes for the SIDR meeting on Tuesday On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 10:09 AM, Murphy, Sandra sandra.mur...@parsons.commailto:sandra.mur

[sidr] updated agenda

2014-03-03 Thread Murphy, Sandra
There's an updated agenda with an additional topic and a reduction of one topic's time slot size from twice what everyone else got to the same as everyone else (especially given that the request had been for a few minutes :-) ). The agenda is full. Those presenters/speakers/ombudsgeeks

Re: [sidr] agenda revised

2014-02-27 Thread Murphy, Sandra
not an omnibudsgeek? :-) will revise. --Sandy P.S. Thanks for avoiding the ietf ombudsman vs ombudsperson etc discussion ___ sidr mailing list sidr@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sidr

Re: [sidr] working group adoption poll for draft-huston-sidr-rfc6490-bis

2014-02-26 Thread Murphy, Sandra
, speaking as one of the co-chairs From: sidr [sidr-boun...@ietf.org] on behalf of Murphy, Sandra [sandra.mur...@parsons.com] Sent: Friday, February 07, 2014 2:47 PM To: sidr@ietf.org Subject: [sidr] working group adoption poll for draft-huston-sidr-rfc6490-bis

[sidr] jabber scribe; minutes taker; slides from presenters

2014-02-26 Thread Murphy, Sandra
It would be most helpful to have the roles of jabber scribe and minutes taker set before the meeting. If you are willing, please do speak up. We can't proceed with the discussions and presentations without a the jabber scribe and minutes taker identified. So if you want the meeting to

[sidr] agenda revised

2014-02-26 Thread Murphy, Sandra
The agenda has been revised. It is copied below for ease of the reader. The agenda is now full. Further additions are possible but not necessarily accepted. The requests for agenda time have not gone to the list in all cases and not to all chairs in all cases. So if you made a request, you

Re: [sidr] jabber scribe; minutes taker; slides from presenters

2014-02-26 Thread Murphy, Sandra
And number your slides, too. Please. --Sandy, speaking as wg co-chair From: Murphy, Sandra Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 6:39 PM To: sidr@ietf.org Subject: jabber scribe; minutes taker; slides from presenters It would be most helpful to have

[sidr] draft IETF89 agenda uploaded

2014-02-17 Thread Murphy, Sandra
I have uploaded a draft agenda from the requests received so far. It is copied below. This is a DRAFT. Changes are possible. The final agenda is not due until 24 Feb. There is still room on the agenda for topic discussion, if anyone has a topic to suggest. If the agenda is wrong (wrong

[sidr] two imminent meeting deadlines

2014-02-11 Thread Murphy, Sandra
There are two meeting deadlines coming up soon: 2014-02-14 (Friday): Internet Draft submission cut-off (for all drafts, including -00) by UTC 23:59, upload using IETF ID Submission Tool. 2014-02-17 (Monday): Draft Working Group agendas due by UTC 23:59, upload using IETF Meeting Materials

[sidr] FW: IETF 89 Final Agenda

2014-02-09 Thread Murphy, Sandra
The final agenda is set. SIDR meets TUESDAY, March 4, 2014, 0900-1130 GMT Tuesday Morning Session I, room Balmoral. --Sandy From: IETF-Announce [ietf-announce-boun...@ietf.org] on behalf of IETF Agenda [age...@ietf.org] Sent: Friday, February

[sidr] FW: I-D Action: draft-ietf-sidr-lta-use-cases-00.txt

2014-02-05 Thread Murphy, Sandra
The lta-use-cases draft was motivated as a way to start/guide discussion of the Local Trust Anchor Management draft and the Suspenders draft. The question is whether we need both efforts, or only one, and if so, which one. So we need to discuss the use cases. And discuss the two drafts. Local

[sidr] agenda topics for IETF 89 London

2014-01-24 Thread Murphy, Sandra
We have about five weeks before the IETF 89 meeting in London. So it is time to start considering the agenda. If you wish to have some time on the agenda, please send a message to the list or to the chairs and secretary (sidr-cha...@ietf.org). Please give thought to topics that would benefit

[sidr] IETF 89 - Important Meeting Dates

2014-01-23 Thread Murphy, Sandra
Here are some of the important dates for the upcoming meeting you might want to keep in mind. Note in particular the deadline for submission of an internet-draft. 2014-01-31 (Friday): Preliminary agenda published for comment. 2014-02-03 (Monday): Cut-off date for requests to reschedule Working

Re: [sidr] WG Adoption: draft-ymbk-lta-use-cases

2014-01-13 Thread Murphy, Sandra
On Fri, 10 Jan 2014, Randy Bush said: There were four responses to this adoption call, all positive. But four is not a strong indication of wg wishes here. note that the wg meeting in berlin asked for a requirements draft I hear you, and I heard the comments. But the wg is supposed to

Re: [sidr] Master thesis - RPKI

2014-01-13 Thread Murphy, Sandra
(Speaking as regular ol' member) as some of you know, I'm writing my master thesis about RPKI at Deutsche Telekom (Rüdiger Volk). Especially I try to identify the problems (attack, misconfiguration, ...) of using RPKI as a relying party/resource owner and try to find ways to identify if such a

[sidr] about draft-ietf-sidr-rtr-keying-04

2014-01-10 Thread Murphy, Sandra
The draft draft-ietf-sidr-rtr-keying-04 has grown over time, mostly from the author's energy, not wg discussion. But this is an important and subtle issue. The latest version was submitted 17 Dec. There's a section called Key rollover which says only TBD. Could the wg please look at this

Re: [sidr] a query to the wg regarding publication draft

2013-12-17 Thread Murphy, Sandra
No replies, so the author(s) should take the action they think best. --Sandy, speaking as co-chair From: sidr [sidr-boun...@ietf.org] on behalf of Murphy, Sandra [sandra.mur...@parsons.com] Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 7:52 PM To: sidr@ietf.org

Re: [sidr] a new direction for draft-ietf-sidr-multiple-publication-points

2013-12-17 Thread Murphy, Sandra
No replies, so the authors should proceed as suggested. --Sandy, speaking as co-chair From: sidr [sidr-boun...@ietf.org] on behalf of Murphy, Sandra [sandra.mur...@parsons.com] Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 8:05 PM To: Roque Gagliano (rogaglia); sidr wg list

Re: [sidr] wg adoption call for draft-austein-sidr-rpki-oob-setup-00

2013-12-05 Thread Murphy, Sandra
From: sidr-boun...@ietf.org [sidr-boun...@ietf.org] on behalf of Murphy, Sandra [sandra.mur...@parsons.com] Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 12:12 PM To: sidr@ietf.org Subject: [sidr] wg adoption call for draft-austein-sidr-rpki-oob-setup-00 The authors of draft-austein-sidr-rpki-oob-setup-00

Re: [sidr] a query to the wg regarding publication draft

2013-12-05 Thread Murphy, Sandra
From: sidr-boun...@ietf.org [sidr-boun...@ietf.org] on behalf of Murphy, Sandra [sandra.mur...@parsons.com] Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 8:25 AM To: sidr@ietf.org Subject: [sidr] a query to the wg regarding publication draft Rob posed a question to the room during the meeting on Tue (Nov 5

[sidr] a new direction for draft-ietf-sidr-multiple-publication-points

2013-12-05 Thread Murphy, Sandra
The authors made a suggestion (see below) for a new course of action for the draft draft-ietf-sidr-multiple-publication-points, splitting the draft into two work items. And there have been nearly two months of mostly silence on the point. (Thanks to Steve and Arturo for their replies.). If

[sidr] IETF88 meeting minutes uploaded

2013-11-26 Thread Murphy, Sandra
We had two minutes takers, Peter Yee and Sriram Kotikalapudi. Their melded notes (with thanks to Sriram for the melding) have been uploaded to the proceedings site: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/88/minutes/minutes-88-sidr. Each presentation has a summary followed by details of the QA for

[sidr] FW: NOMCOM - final call for feedback, nominee list

2013-11-18 Thread Murphy, Sandra
Please consider the last call for NOMCOM feedback below. This is an important part of IETF governance and process. Let your opinion be heard. --Sandy From: wgchairs-boun...@ietf.org [wgchairs-boun...@ietf.org] on behalf of NomCom Chair 2013

[sidr] a query to the wg regarding publication draft

2013-11-08 Thread Murphy, Sandra
Rob posed a question to the room during the meeting on Tue (Nov 5) about the publication draft. See slides at http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/88/slides/slides-88-sidr-1.pdf. The question to the list is: Should the protocol be trimmed -- take out all of the “control” operations, leaving just

[sidr] sidr agenda addition

2013-11-04 Thread Murphy, Sandra
The usual rush of last minute requests for agenda time hasn't happened this time. We have several presentations likely to produce strong discussion. Even so, it is likely that we will not be rushed for time. If there's time, I would like to continue the discussion of Geoff's ideas about the

[sidr] Monday deadline for draft submission

2013-10-18 Thread Murphy, Sandra
Just in case the previous reminder was overtaken by life: The deadline for draft submission (all drafts, initial and updates) is Monday. 2013-10-21 (Monday): Internet Draft submission cut-off (for all drafts, including -00) by UTC 24:00, upload using IETF ID Submission Tool. --Sandy

[sidr] final agenda posted for IETF88

2013-10-14 Thread Murphy, Sandra
The final agenda for IETF88 has been posted. Here's the link. https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/88/agenda.html --Sandy ___ sidr mailing list sidr@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sidr

[sidr] comments on draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-rollover

2013-10-11 Thread Murphy, Sandra
Speaking as regular ol' member Some comments on the rollover draft. The title says an alternative to beaconing - the protocol doc no longer talks about beaconing, so this is an alternative to a behavior that no longer exists. I am not certain about the scope of this rollover discussion. The

[sidr] possible interim meeting for draft-ietf-sidr-multiple-publication-points

2013-09-27 Thread Murphy, Sandra
Various pokes to the list to discuss this haven't been working. Chris and I are considering holding a virtual meeting - telecon only - for a short 1-2 hour duration - for discussion of this draft only. Is that acceptable to you? This requires a two week advance announcement - are there any

Re: [sidr] call for indication of interest: draft-ietf-sidr-rpsl-sig

2013-09-27 Thread Murphy, Sandra
to be a co-author. Thank you, Benno. The current authors should work with Benno to divide the draft duties. --Sandy, speaking as one of the co-chairs From: sidr-boun...@ietf.org [sidr-boun...@ietf.org] on behalf of Murphy, Sandra [sandra.mur

[sidr] draft-ietf-sidr-bogons is dead

2013-09-27 Thread Murphy, Sandra
The draft draft-ietf-sidr-bogons has not seen progress since 2009 and the authors have not indicated interest in pursuing this. This draft is now marked as dead in the datatracker. --Sandy, speaking as one of the co-chairs ___ sidr mailing list

[sidr] FW: I-D Action: draft-ymbk-lta-use-cases-00.txt

2013-09-25 Thread Murphy, Sandra
I just saw this announcement. Looks interesting. --Sandy, speaking as regular ol' member From: i-d-announce-boun...@ietf.org [i-d-announce-boun...@ietf.org] on behalf of internet-dra...@ietf.org [internet-dra...@ietf.org] Sent: Wednesday, September 25,

[sidr] FW: sidr - Update to a Meeting Session Request for IETF 88

2013-09-20 Thread Murphy, Sandra
...@ietf.org] Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 11:42 AM To: session-requ...@ietf.org Cc: sidr-...@tools.ietf.org; morr...@ops-netman.net; Murphy, Sandra; mur...@tis.com Subject: sidr - Update to a Meeting Session Request for IETF 88 An update to a meeting session request has just been submitted by Sandra

Re: [sidr] wglc draft-ietf-sidr-policy-qualifiers-00

2013-09-18 Thread Murphy, Sandra
From: Roque Gagliano (rogaglia) [rogag...@cisco.com] Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 4:18 AM To: Geoff Huston; Murphy, Sandra Cc: Andy Newton; sidr@ietf.org list Subject: Re: [sidr] wglc draft-ietf-sidr-policy-qualifiers-00 Hi Geoff/Sandy, Agree that we can void the mention on the current status

[sidr] some comments on draft-ietf-sidr-cps-02

2013-09-18 Thread Murphy, Sandra
Some things came up as I reviewed the comments received during wglc. Most of these are nits, but a few are substantive. The most substantial of the things that came up are about 2119 language and the preface's suggestions for eliminating references. A long message with a lot of detail, sorry.

[sidr] IETF 88 pre-meeting important dates

2013-09-17 Thread Murphy, Sandra
Dates to remember in preparing for the upcoming meeting - 2013-09-23 (Monday): Cutoff date for requests to schedule Working Group meetings at UTC 24:00. To request a Working Group session, use the IETF Meeting Session Request Tool. - 2013-09-23 (Monday): Cutoff date for BOF proposal requests

Re: [sidr] meeting minutes uploaded

2013-09-12 Thread Murphy, Sandra
The deadline for corrections to the meeting minutes is next Wednesday, so please take a look at what was uploaded and note any corrections to the list. --Sandy, speaking as co-chair From: sidr-boun...@ietf.org [sidr-boun...@ietf.org] on behalf of Murphy

Re: [sidr] draft-huston-rpki-validation-00.txt

2013-09-12 Thread Murphy, Sandra
Speaking as regular ol' member i am trying to understand $subject, and need some help.  it seems the I also don't fully grasp the problem or the solution, and so of course I don't quite grasp how the solution solves the problem. So I would also like some help in understanding. i.e. the

Re: [sidr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-threats-06.txt

2013-09-09 Thread Murphy, Sandra
There's even a chair consensus statement on route leaks and forward plan: http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/sidr/current/msg06014.html --Sandy, speaking as wg co-chair From: sidr-boun...@ietf.org [sidr-boun...@ietf.org] on behalf of Christopher Morrow

Re: [sidr] Requesting comments on multiple publication points

2013-09-03 Thread Murphy, Sandra
There was a brief flurry of messages in response to this that lasted a week (if you include the messages specifically taking about TAL change). The minutes note several comments during the meeting about the problem of maintaining consistency. This is an important topic. Now that we're back

Re: [sidr] using RPKI keys to sign RPSL data

2013-08-28 Thread Murphy, Sandra
Speaking as a regular ol' member I am sympathetic to the concerns that Randy has cited. In particular, I am uncomfortable with the ability of a signer to enumerate an unconstrained list of object types that are signed. We need to consider the semantic of each object that can be covered by a

Re: [sidr] wglc draft-ietf-sidr-policy-qualifiers-00

2013-08-23 Thread Murphy, Sandra
. From: Andy Newton [a...@arin.net] Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 9:49 AM To: Roque Gagliano (rogaglia) Cc: Murphy, Sandra; sidr@ietf.org Subject: Re: [sidr] wglc draft-ietf-sidr-policy-qualifiers-00 This sounds fine to me, though it is really an interoperability considerations section thingy

[sidr] call for indication of interest: draft-ietf-sidr-rpsl-sig

2013-08-22 Thread Murphy, Sandra
The authors of the draft-ietf-sidr-rpsl-sig have both indicated that they see a need for this draft and are still interested in pursuing the work. But they both have been appointed to positions that put strong demands on their time. Therefore, they would like some indication from the wg that

Re: [sidr] call for indication of interest: draft-ietf-sidr-rpsl-sig

2013-08-22 Thread Murphy, Sandra
Thanks, George. You get the lollipop for being the first to reply. Here's hoping that others follow your lead in replying promptly. --Sandy From: George Michaelson [g...@algebras.org] Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 6:48 PM To: Murphy, Sandra Cc: sidr@ietf.org

Re: [sidr] comments on the repository analysis I-D

2013-03-27 Thread Murphy, Sandra
On Wednesday, March 27, 2013 9:53 AM, John Curran said: I believe it is fine as an indicator of potential CA entities within +/- 50%, but even that is simply the best estimate at this time. No smiley? --Sandy, speaking as regular ol' member ___ sidr

Re: [sidr] Princeton University:: Impacting IP Address Reachability via RPKI Manipulations

2013-03-21 Thread Murphy, Sandra
randy, who is not learning anything else new from this rinse repeat So, you're stating that operator input wrt impacts the RPKI will have on their networks is not useful to SIDR? OK, got it. Randy said nothing new, not nothing. --Sandy, speaking as regular ol' member.

Re: [sidr] Princeton University:: Impacting IP Address Reachability via RPKI Manipulations

2013-03-20 Thread Murphy, Sandra
Speaking as regular ol' member That all depends on the policy undertaken by each specific provider, doesn't it? How can you tell the difference between a route with no ROA because the registry has decertified, and a route with no ROA simply because one hasn't ever been created? To an ISP who

[sidr] wg adoption call for draft-rogaglia-sidr-multiple-publication-points

2013-03-12 Thread Murphy, Sandra
The authors of draft-rogaglia-sidr-multiple-publication-points have requested wg adoption. See http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-rogaglia-sidr-multiple-publication-points Please do respond to the list as to whether you support the wg adopting this as a work item. Note that you do not need to

Re: [sidr] ORIGINs

2013-03-11 Thread Murphy, Sandra
Therefore, I would like not create a new reason for some operators to deploy BGPSEC. From the tone of the remarks preceding this sentence, it seems that you might have misplaced a not in here somewhere. Could you clarify? --Sandy ___ sidr mailing

[sidr] old discussion on ORIGIN

2013-03-11 Thread Murphy, Sandra
I'd like to point the wg to a previous discussion of the use of ORIGIN over a few days in October 2012. We're revisiting some of the same ground now. Start with http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/sidr/current/msg05179.html and follow the thread origin attribute. It was a short but intense

[sidr] slides, slides and more slides

2013-03-10 Thread Murphy, Sandra
But not enough slides. Presenters are urged to send their slides to the chairs just as soon as possible. ASAP. RSN. --Sandy, speaking as a wg co-chair ___ sidr mailing list sidr@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sidr

[sidr] need jabber scribe and minutes taker

2013-03-10 Thread Murphy, Sandra
As always, we will need to identify a minute taker and jabber scribe. We can't start unless we have someone taking minutes and the chairs will be busy with the presentations. Note that the etherpad capability lets minutes taking be a collaborative effort. But we still need to identify

[sidr] invitation to repeat IEPG presentation at sidr

2013-03-08 Thread Murphy, Sandra
I see that you have a presentation on the agenda for the IEPG meeting on Sunday about RPKI Spider: * Erik Osterweil (20 min) RPKI monitoring system RPKI Spider (http://rpkispider.verisignlabs.com/), measurements we've been collecting, and events we've seen. This sounds like it would be

[sidr] ORIGINs

2013-03-08 Thread Murphy, Sandra
In reviewing the discussions about the threat document, the wg eventual consensus wrt one topic was not clear to the chairs. The ORIGIN attribute was mentioned by some as having the potential to be used out-of-spec to influence routing through the neighbor (and their neighbors, etc.). One

Re: [sidr] Tues sidr meeting

2013-03-08 Thread Murphy, Sandra
We did get additional requests and/or suggestions for invitations for further speakers. So for now, it looks like we could be tight to fit it into Monday. So we will not release the Tues morning slot. --Sandy From: Murphy, Sandra Sent: Thursday, March

[sidr] important meeting dates for IETF86 Orlando

2013-02-08 Thread Murphy, Sandra
Here are some important dates for the upcoming meeting. Of particular interest, of course, are the deadlines for internet-draft submission. The deadline for submission of a -00 version is Feb 18, the deadline for subsequent versions is Feb 25. Anyone who thinks they will be submitting a -00

Re: [sidr] about beaconing and the bgspec-protoocol

2012-12-11 Thread Murphy, Sandra
. --Sandy, speaking as regular ol' member From: Danny McPherson [da...@tcb.net] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 5:20 PM To: Murphy, Sandra Cc: sidr wg list Subject: Re: [sidr] about beaconing and the bgspec-protoocol On Dec 10, 2012, at 3:22 PM, Murphy

Re: [sidr] about beaconing and the bgspec-protoocol

2012-12-10 Thread Murphy, Sandra
you would prefer it if the ops document discouraged the ISPs from choosing that particular key rollover strategy. --Sandy, speaking as co-chair From: Danny McPherson [da...@tcb.net] Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 6:24 PM To: Murphy, Sandra Cc: sidr

Re: [sidr] about beaconing and the bgspec-protoocol

2012-12-10 Thread Murphy, Sandra
wrt: I can't wait until my prefix doesn't make it 'n' AS hops through the Internet because I used an origin or forward signing key in BGPSEC secure path bits and an RP (BGP router) upstream didn't have that particular validation key in their onboard state 'at the ready. Keys on routers are

[sidr] about beaconing and the bgspec-protoocol

2012-12-07 Thread Murphy, Sandra
From comments made at the mike in the last IETG sidr session after the discussion of key rollover techniques, I think there might be a bit of confusion about beaconing. An Expire Time was a feature of the bgpsec protocol in versions 00-01. The purpose of the Expire Time was to prevent replay

Re: [sidr] If you are using APNIC as an RPKI trust anchor, please update your Trust Anchor Set.

2012-11-12 Thread Murphy, Sandra
I happened across the following quite by chance. It seems to be further explanation of the 5 trust anchors George mentioned previously. http://www.apnic.net/services/services-apnic-provides/resource-certification/RPKI --Sandy, speaking as regular ol' member

[sidr] still need minutes taker

2012-11-09 Thread Murphy, Sandra
We still need a minute taker for today's session. Please do volunteer. --Sandy, speaking as co-chair ___ sidr mailing list sidr@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sidr

Re: [sidr] ARIN RPA presentation - Comments from ARIN

2012-11-09 Thread Murphy, Sandra
is very useful. --Sandy From: John Curran [jcur...@arin.net] Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 9:52 AM To: Murphy, Sandra Cc: sidr wg list Subject: ARIN RPA presentation - Comments from ARIN Sandra - Regarding http://tools.ietf.org/agenda/85/slides/slides-85

Re: [sidr] additions and changes to agenda on Friday

2012-11-08 Thread Murphy, Sandra
...@ietf.org] on behalf of Shane Amante [sh...@castlepoint.net] Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2012 10:48 PM To: Michael Sinatra Cc: sidr@ietf.org; Murphy, Sandra Subject: Re: [sidr] additions and changes to agenda on Friday Michael, On Nov 7, 2012, at 7:48 PM, Michael Sinatra mich...@burnttofu.net

Re: [sidr] WG acceptance call for draft-ymbk-rpki-grandparenting

2012-11-08 Thread Murphy, Sandra
From: Andy Newton [a...@arin.net] Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2012 6:49 AM To: Christopher Morrow Cc: Murphy, Sandra; Alexey Melnikov; sidr@ietf.org Subject: Re: [sidr] WG acceptance call for draft-ymbk-rpki-grandparenting On 11/8/12 12:09 AM, Christopher Morrow morrowc.li...@gmail.com wrote

Re: [sidr] additions and changes to agenda on Friday

2012-11-08 Thread Murphy, Sandra
On Thursday, November 08, 2012 8:44 AM, Danny McPherson [da...@tcb.net] said: If operators always consult their legal departments on deploying new features, then there is no need to advise them to consult their legal departments. This is incorrect. It's Risks to our business -- risks is

Re: [sidr] WG acceptance call for draft-ymbk-rpki-grandparenting

2012-11-08 Thread Murphy, Sandra
From: Andy Newton [a...@arin.net] Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2012 9:38 AM To: Murphy, Sandra; Christopher Morrow Cc: Alexey Melnikov; sidr@ietf.org Subject: Re: [sidr] WG acceptance call for draft-ymbk-rpki-grandparenting On 11/8/12 8:21 AM, Murphy, Sandra sandra.mur

[sidr] please number your slides

2012-11-08 Thread Murphy, Sandra
Please all those submitting slides - please number your slides. --Sandy, speaking as wg co-chair ___ sidr mailing list sidr@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sidr

Re: [sidr] WG acceptance call for draft-ymbk-rpki-grandparenting

2012-11-08 Thread Murphy, Sandra
in calls for adoption. This should not be a surprise. --Sandy From: Andy Newton [a...@arin.net] Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2012 10:41 AM To: Murphy, Sandra; Christopher Morrow Cc: Alexey Melnikov; sidr@ietf.org Subject: Re: [sidr] WG acceptance call

Re: [sidr] additions and changes to agenda on Friday

2012-11-08 Thread Murphy, Sandra
Sorry, you did not say all you said most --Sandy From: Danny McPherson [da...@tcb.net] Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2012 10:54 AM To: Murphy, Sandra Cc: sidr wg list Subject: Re: [sidr] additions and changes to agenda on Friday On Nov 8, 2012, at 9:37 AM

Re: [sidr] additions and changes to agenda on Friday

2012-11-08 Thread Murphy, Sandra
] Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2012 11:03 AM To: Murphy, Sandra Cc: sidr wg list Subject: Re: [sidr] additions and changes to agenda on Friday On Nov 8, 2012, at 10:55 AM, Murphy, Sandra wrote: Sorry, you did not say all you said most Sandy, could you please not take this out of context? I quoted

[sidr] more agenda changes

2012-11-08 Thread Murphy, Sandra
Please be aware that one of our presenters this time is remote, so take extra care to practice good mike and speaking manners. I have uploaded the latest version of the agenda. Please do pay attention to the agenda and make sure everyone is shown there. Slides are coming in and SOME of them

Re: [sidr] minutes taker and jabber scribe

2012-11-08 Thread Murphy, Sandra
No one has stepped forward to take minutes or serve as the jabber scribe. Please do volunteer. We can't proceed without both. --Sandy Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2012 4:06 PM To: sidr@ietf.org Subject: minutes taker and jabber scribe We presently have

[sidr] Meetecho info for Friday meeting

2012-11-07 Thread Murphy, Sandra
Meetecho is supporting the IETF and the IETF85 web site has lots of Meetecho information: http://ietf85.conf.meetecho.com http://www.ietf.org/meeting/85/remote-participation.html#Meetecho Those who are intending to participate remotely should pay particular attention to

Re: [sidr] additions and changes to agenda on Friday

2012-11-07 Thread Murphy, Sandra
...@ietf.org [sidr-boun...@ietf.org] on behalf of Danny McPherson [da...@tcb.net] Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2012 1:29 PM To: Murphy, Sandra Cc: sidr@ietf.org Subject: Re: [sidr] additions and changes to agenda on Friday On Nov 6, 2012, at 12:35 PM, Murphy, Sandra wrote: I would like to open

[sidr] draft agenda uploaded

2012-10-25 Thread Murphy, Sandra
The draft sidr agenda was uploaded yesterday. If you requested time at the upcoming meeting, but you were not added to the agenda, please do poke the chairs. This is a draft agenda. If you have topics you wish to discuss at the meeting, please do make a request. We have a lot of time in

[sidr] neglected topics

2012-10-25 Thread Murphy, Sandra
There are a few topics that had an initial flurry of energetic discussion, were adopted by the working group, and then had little if any further discussion. These could be a part of the agenda for the upcoming meeting, but prep for the discussion by at least looking at the drafts would be

Re: [sidr] LACNIC 18 / LACNOG 2012 conference network

2012-10-25 Thread Murphy, Sandra
Congratulations! As far as I know, this makes you the very first network to do origin validation with RPKI data. I think hearing the details of your experience would be of interest to the wg. Would it be possible for you to discuss? I realize that your meeting is the week before IETF, and

Re: [sidr] LACNIC 18 / LACNOG 2012 conference network

2012-10-25 Thread Murphy, Sandra
To: Murphy, Sandra Cc: sidr@ietf.org Subject: Re: [sidr] LACNIC 18 / LACNOG 2012 conference network Sandy, Arturo and I will be in ATL, so yes, we could have a little chat about the experiencie. So far, the outcomes I see as possible are: - Everything crashes down on Sunday/Monday and we have

Re: [sidr] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-rollover-01.txt

2012-10-23 Thread Murphy, Sandra
On nday, October 22, 2012 9:29 AM, Roque said Significant work on this document should be dependent on the advance of the key provisioning specifications (there is still not WG document yet on this point) and some initial experience. There is the draft

Re: [sidr] origin attribute

2012-10-23 Thread Murphy, Sandra
I would also note that this has been brought up here Reviewing that was what led to my question to Randy. (something like what is the reason for having ORIGIN in the first place.) The responses when this came up in the past have been that protecting integrity of ORIGIN might be conceivable,

[sidr] upcoming important events

2012-10-12 Thread Murphy, Sandra
Here are some important dates to keep in mind for IETF85: 2012-10-15 (Monday): Internet Draft Cut-off for initial document (-00) submission by UTC 24:00. 2012-10-22 (Monday): Internet Draft final submission cut-off by UTC 24:00. 2012-10-24 (Wednesday): Draft Working Group agendas due by UTC

[sidr] WGLC for draft-ietf-sidr-algorithm-agility

2012-10-11 Thread Murphy, Sandra
The WGLC for draft-ietf-sidr-algorithm-agility was posted last October. The co-chairs are satisfied that the recently announced version draft-ietf-sidr-algorithm-agility-07.txt adequately reflects wg comments and consensus. The co-chairs will be requesting publication of this draft very soon.

[sidr] agenda requests for IETF85

2012-10-05 Thread Murphy, Sandra
If you have a topic that you would like to see discussed at the IETF84 Atlanta meeting, please send a request to the list. --Sandy, speaking as wg co-chair ___ sidr mailing list sidr@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sidr

[sidr] meeting ended early

2012-09-29 Thread Murphy, Sandra
The meeting finished discussion early, so anyone who was thinking of joining late, sorry. When the meeting recording information is available, I'll send it to the list. And minutes will be available soon. --Sandy ___ sidr mailing list sidr@ietf.org

[sidr] a suggsetion of as aliasing

2012-09-28 Thread Murphy, Sandra
Below is a description of doing as aliasing based on the vague idea expressed in my reply to Wes. This is a first try. It probably has lots of holes and but this will break X. It might spark some discussion (of my sanity, whatever). --Sandy, speaking as regular ol' member In the

Re: [sidr] comments on recent as migration drafts

2012-09-27 Thread Murphy, Sandra
: Thursday, September 27, 2012 2:13 PM To: Murphy, Sandra; sidr@ietf.org Subject: RE: comments on recent as migration drafts Thanks for the quick review. Responses below inline. From: sidr-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:sidr-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Murphy, Sandra It appears to me that the ga-idr

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