Re: [sidr] WG adoption for draft-pmohapat-sidr-pfx-validate-07

2010-05-24 Thread Terry Manderson
On 24/05/10 11:40 AM, Robert Loomans robe...@apnic.net wrote: Refuted definitely has the right connotations. I'm not fond of unverified... if unknown is not acceptable, perhaps undetermined is a good term. I can live with unknown. I still have reservations about using different terms

Re: [sidr] WG adoption for draft-pmohapat-sidr-pfx-validate-07

2010-05-24 Thread Randy Bush
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Re: [sidr] WG adoption for draft-pmohapat-sidr-pfx-validate-07

2010-05-23 Thread Terry Manderson
Folks, Sorry, had weekend away from the keyboard. On 22/05/10 12:46 AM, Pradosh Mohapatra pmoha...@cisco.com wrote: Hi Terry, Robert, I agree with Terry on this one. I'd personally be much happier with verified/unverified instead of valid/invalid. These terms are much closer to what we

Re: [sidr] WG adoption for draft-pmohapat-sidr-pfx-validate-07

2010-05-23 Thread Robert Loomans
Refuted definitely has the right connotations. I'm not fond of unverified... if unknown is not acceptable, perhaps undetermined is a good term. I still have reservations about using different terms than other drafts. I would prefer to see one set of terminology for results from the RPKI.

Re: [sidr] WG adoption for draft-pmohapat-sidr-pfx-validate-07

2010-05-23 Thread Pradosh Mohapatra
I disagree with this terminology change - there are three states that are potential outcomes of the process, not two and the proposed terminology does not accommodate this. I request that no change be made in terminology. Geoff, you misunderstood. We proposed varified/unverified/unknown

Re: [sidr] WG adoption for draft-pmohapat-sidr-pfx-validate-07

2010-05-22 Thread Robert Loomans
On 22/05/2010, at 20:08, Robert Kisteleki wrote: On 2010.05.21. 23:19, Geoff Huston wrote: I agree with Terry on this one. I'd personally be much happier with verified/unverified instead of valid/invalid. These terms are much closer to what we really mean. Ack. We will make this

Re: [sidr] WG adoption for draft-pmohapat-sidr-pfx-validate-07

2010-05-22 Thread Geoff Huston
On 22/05/2010, at 8:08 PM, Robert Kisteleki wrote: On 2010.05.21. 23:19, Geoff Huston wrote: I agree with Terry on this one. I'd personally be much happier with verified/unverified instead of valid/invalid. These terms are much closer to what we really mean. Ack. We will make this

Re: [sidr] WG adoption for draft-pmohapat-sidr-pfx-validate-07

2010-05-22 Thread Geoff Huston
On 22/05/2010, at 10:30 PM, Robert Loomans wrote: On 22/05/2010, at 20:08, Robert Kisteleki wrote: On 2010.05.21. 23:19, Geoff Huston wrote: I agree with Terry on this one. I'd personally be much happier with verified/unverified instead of valid/invalid. These terms are much closer to

Re: [sidr] WG adoption for draft-pmohapat-sidr-pfx-validate-07

2010-05-21 Thread Pradosh Mohapatra
Hi Terry, Robert, On 2010.05.18. 7:49, Terry Manderson wrote: I support the adoption and willing to review.. ..and I have some concerns about the terms of valid, invalid. (Unknown I like). This may only be semantics, but the valid and invalid terms convey more than a preference level.

Re: [sidr] WG adoption for draft-pmohapat-sidr-pfx-validate-07

2010-05-21 Thread Geoff Huston
On 22/05/2010, at 12:46 AM, Pradosh Mohapatra wrote: Hi Terry, Robert, On 2010.05.18. 7:49, Terry Manderson wrote: I support the adoption and willing to review.. ..and I have some concerns about the terms of valid, invalid. (Unknown I like). This may only be semantics, but the

Re: [sidr] WG adoption for draft-pmohapat-sidr-pfx-validate-07

2010-05-18 Thread Robert Kisteleki
On 2010.05.18. 7:49, Terry Manderson wrote: I support the adoption and willing to review.. ..and I have some concerns about the terms of valid, invalid. (Unknown I like). This may only be semantics, but the valid and invalid terms convey more than a preference level. IE if a database prefix

[sidr] WG adoption for draft-pmohapat-sidr-pfx-validate-07

2010-05-12 Thread Sandra Murphy
Pradosh Mohapatra has requested that the working group adopt the draft draft-pmohapat-sidr-pfx-validate-07.txt as a work item. This work has been presented at IETF 73, IETF 75, and IETF 77. It is available at http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-pmohapat-sidr-pfx-validate-07 Recall that active