Very interesting. Personally, I find creation is *part copied, part inspired
*- Everything we do in life is copied in some way or another whether by
active choice or subconscious. However, making a business out of replicating
exactly what someone else has built (although I don't prefer it) is
Geoff - Like I said Good luck in the future. Look forward to the
innovation you can bring to Australia.
Mick - Totally agree.
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Copy! Paste! Copy! Paste! Just seeing your comments; stealing someone
else context etc... Mate! At the end of the day, if you got good could
content! regardless of context being similar to another website.
Market it right online, you will do well.
An average person knows 108 people, if get
Geoff I thought you wanted to have a discussion about innovation. My
apologies I didn't realize you didn't want to. I wish you luck in the
future.
Patrick really sad to hear that about Aaron he did such a great job
with Mint a company I really looked up to. He essentially just created
a better
Humphrey: innovation means different things to different people, like
many (IMO) abused phrases here like 'tech startup'. Apologies for
being flippant, but your model of incrementalism is dubiously
connected to Spreets on one side (at the least, if Spreets is doing
something original it's not
A worthy discussion.
A few quick thoughts from me...
Dean worked for 6+ years on Booking Angel creating a new business,
with lots of innovation and lots of new model in it. For what ever
reason, it didn't work as a business (and what the hell does that
mean? Didn't make him rich? Didn't make
How do you know yet? You are assuming Spreets is doing the exact same
thing as Groupon but what you might not see is what other innovation
are they working on to the improve the model. How are they trying to
make it better for their customers and end users. To me its the micro
improvement that you
Jeez, calm down. Spreets is one of approximately 3000 group marketing
companies that have sprouted up recently. It's not exactly rocket
science, or even computer science.
This whole business about the 'stone wheel', and your bizarre
'incremental refinement' story, puts me in mind of the
That's funny stuff Geoff.
There was once only one insurance company and one share trading site, and one
web-based email provider.
Let's not get all upset about who copied who. There is plenty of success for
everyone (but not for long). In this instance though, the first is very public.
This
Its funny. A couple nights ago a guy asked the question what is an
entrepreneur.
My response was someone who:
1) Identifies an opportunity
2) Executes on that opportunity
3) Takes on personal risk during execution (quits job and goes all in)
An entrepreneur in my mind isn't someone who has
Despite the impassioned post above, I am not entirely convinced that
the process of going from the stone wheel to the pinnacle of modern
transport methods* was achieved by a series of steps analogous to the
progress from Groupon to Spreets.
Nothing wrong with a nice, well-executed clone, but:
1.
All they are stealing is the idea - and idea's aren't worth anything - so
there's no harm. Right? I'm obviously being antagonistic here.
We all recognise that this isn't something new to Airbnb, nor to web based
companies as a category. Competition is generally accepted as a good thing.
You're absolutely right about IRR, in that I actually erred in my
post. IRR has nothing to do with the story, slando.ru is the site run
by the former Gumtree founders and invested in by eBay. Got my #1 and
2s mixed up :-)
On Jun 14, 8:55 pm, Max Kraynov maxim.kray...@gmail.com wrote:
Art,
to
Hey Matt,
They should pay you more for all the pimping you're doing! :P
I'm not knocking Airbnb – far from it. You could have replaced the company
with many others in this piece. Was more interested in thoughts on copy/past
innovation as a business model!
Thanks,
Kate
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Depends if you're in it to... invent something new or to make
money. Those are two separate objectives which sometimes, only
coincidentally, overlap.
I'm still in London (still waiting for my visa :-( and therefore,
still symbolically a European, and still with my eye on the EMEA
copycats. We
Art,
to be fair to IRR.ru, they'd had a successful print edition Iz Ruk v Ruki,
which sold millions and millions of copies each week, and were notoriously
slow to embrace the internet. So the internet version of their site, while
being inspired by eBay and its likes, actually was a logical
Two weeks ago, Rachel Botsman (author of What's Mine Is Yours)
appeared on Sunrise Channel 7 and stated that You can't copy Airbnb,
it is a community.
While I'm not an official spokesperson, I can share this response from
our team. The founders of Airbnb brought the idea of a community
Seem to be a hot topic right now - more on the same $90M injection for a
clone?! Whoa!
http://techcrunch.com/2011/06/14/investors-pump-90-million-into-airbnb-clone-wimdu/
Regards
Rob James
On Wednesday, 15 June 2011 at 6:29 AM, Matthew Ho wrote:
Two weeks ago, Rachel Botsman (author of
We'll just keep innovating and changing the game.
Cheers,
Matt All I do is win Ho
On Jun 15, 9:06 am, Rob James james@gmail.com wrote:
Seem to be a hot topic right now - more on the same $90M injection for a
clone?! Whoa!
Matthew, I think at this point it will be about out-executing the second
movers. Of which innovation will play somewhat of a part. The second mover
advantage can be strong... especially well funded. But a better group of
executors with the same business model should win in the end. I hope your
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