Re: [silk] Ugadi

2008-04-08 Thread Srini Ramakrishnan
On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 11:03 AM, Deepa Mohan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Why is a mix of cultures always seen as an imposition, and that too, after centuries? Logical arguments don't appeal quite as well as emotional arguments do. Politicians understand this more than anyone else.

Re: [silk] Ugadi

2008-04-08 Thread Udhay Shankar N
On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 11:33 AM, Srini Ramakrishnan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Logical arguments don't appeal quite as well as emotional arguments do. Politicians understand this more than anyone else. Cunning is the dark sanctuary of incapacity says Earl Chesterfield, in politics though

Re: [silk] Ugadi

2008-04-08 Thread Srini Ramakrishnan
On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 11:48 AM, Udhay Shankar N [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] I'd like to plug a book here: _Ethnicity and Populist Mobilization: political parties, citizens and democracy in South India_ by Narendra Subramanian (disclosure: the author is a first cousin) Here's an

Re: [silk] Ugadi

2008-04-08 Thread Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Srini Ramakrishnan wrote: | Where can I get a copy? The link to Amazon doesn't work, but in any | case Amazon also seems like a round about way of acquiring a book on | Tamil Nadu when I am in India.

Re: [silk] black hole eats earth: frivolous lawsuit? or infinitely serious?

2008-04-08 Thread Dave Long
or maybe this is a clever scheme to raise public awareness of the higgs boson :-) maybe it worked. Apparently 60'000 people came to visit the LHC while it was open to the public last weekend. http://www.swissinfo.org/eng/multimedia/picture_of_the_day.html?

[silk] An interesting meeting

2008-04-08 Thread Valsa Williams
I had the pleasure of travelling with Shubha Mudgal, the musician. We spoke of many challenges faced my musicians. The lack of an organised guild that takes care of artists and keeps the spirit of Indian music alive. She spoke of poorly paid music teachers and rich commercial organisations that

Re: [silk] Ugadi

2008-04-08 Thread ss
On Tuesday 08 Apr 2008 11:33:19 am Srini Ramakrishnan wrote: Modern Indian politics is sadly all about creating a contest of cultures, races and castes. Mayawati, Karunanidhi, Jayalalitha, Chandrashekar Rao to a name a few leading culprits. Not just modern India. This is India by definition.

Re: [silk] An interesting meeting

2008-04-08 Thread Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 3:23 PM, Valsa Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had the pleasure of travelling with Shubha Mudgal, the musician. We spoke of many challenges faced my musicians. The lack of an organised guild that takes care of artists and keeps the spirit of Indian music alive.

Re: [silk] Wanted: Exceptional parents

2008-04-08 Thread Rishab Aiyer Ghosh
On Mon, 2008-04-07 at 11:49 +0530, Biju Chacko wrote: Delhi is a nice place -- lotsa history and great architecture. Too many Delhites, though. :-) i think the problem is too _few_ delhi-ites, actually. everyone is from somewhere else and doesn't really have a sense of place, and lots of the

Re: [silk] The US is in recession or equity markets are manipulating the equity market.

2008-04-08 Thread Rishab Aiyer Ghosh
that's where the conspiracy theory looks wild-eyed. bear sterns senior managers made enormous personal losses, so they certainly couldn't have been behind their own collapse. but they were pretty much among the best in the business at playing the markets, and very well connected, so the suggestion

Re: [silk] Supercharge Your Camera with Open-Source CHDK Firmware

2008-04-08 Thread Rishab Aiyer Ghosh
On Mon, 2008-04-07 at 12:47 +0530, Biju Chacko wrote: Digital cameras have powers beyond what is immediately available to the user. On a standard Canon, for example, the fastest shutter speed option offered is 1/1,600 second, but the hardware can handle much more than that -- up to 1/60,000

Re: [silk] romance and reading

2008-04-08 Thread Rishab Aiyer Ghosh
sounds fascinating! sounds a bit jim crace-ish. On Mon, 2008-04-07 at 15:09 +0530, Abhishek Hazra wrote: a book that i am waiting to re-read City of Saints and Madmen by Jeff VanderMeer

Re: [silk] Ugadi

2008-04-08 Thread Abhishek Hazra
Where can I get a copy? british library in bangalore used to have one. On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 8:35 AM, Srini Ramakrishnan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 11:48 AM, Udhay Shankar N [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] I'd like to plug a book here: _Ethnicity and Populist

Re: [silk] How did this guy wind up here?

2008-04-08 Thread Ramakrishnan Sundaram
On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 10:02 AM, Biju Chacko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or comments from people like Udhay, who do not seem significantly less coherent when drunk. Umm. I take it you haven't seen Udhay _really_ drunk. I'm talking hold-me-back-someone-or-I'm-going-to-beat-up-random-stranger

Re: [silk] Ugadi

2008-04-08 Thread Thaths
On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 11:18 PM, Udhay Shankar N [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to plug a book here: _Ethnicity and Populist Mobilization: political parties, citizens and democracy in South India_ by Narendra Subramanian (disclosure: the author is a first cousin) I picked up a copy of

Re: [silk] Ugadi

2008-04-08 Thread Abhishek Hazra
some more of pandian extract from: {M S S Pandian | One Step Outside Modernity: Caste, Identity Politics and Public Sphere} full essay here: http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:S7D7AmvQmVYJ:www.sephis.org/pdf/pandian.pdf+caste+autobiography+M+S+S+Pandianhl=enct=clnkcd=1gl=ukclient=firefox-a For a

Re: [silk] silklist Digest, Vol 45, Issue 16

2008-04-08 Thread Anil Kumar
I totally agree with Rishab; there's absolutely no sense of belonging in most of the people here in Delhi, especially with the 'semi-literate / illiterate' migrant class; it is seen as a place to work, make your money and go back / or send it back home. I have also felt this is probably one of

Re: [silk] Wanted: Exceptional parents

2008-04-08 Thread Anil Kumar
Aplogies. Missed out editing the subject line and deleting unrelated posts. -- Forwarded message -- From: Anil Kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 8:51 PM Subject: Re: silklist Digest, Vol 45, Issue 16 To: silklist@lists.hserus.net I totally agree with Rishab;

Re: [silk] Wanted: Exceptional parents

2008-04-08 Thread Deepa Mohan
I totally agree with Rishab; there's absolutely no sense of belonging in most of the people here in Delhi, especially with the 'semi-literate / illiterate' migrant class; it is seen as a place to work, make your money and go back / or send it back home. I have also felt this is

[silk] rant - Re: Wanted: Exceptional parents

2008-04-08 Thread Ramjee Swaminathan
On 4/7/08, Biju Chacko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 8:14 PM, Madhu Kurup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think you meant this link: snip I'm still trying to figure out what kind of school to send Ben to. On one side, I'm hearing stories of rote learning and exam drills for 3

Re: [silk] rant - Re: Wanted: Exceptional parents

2008-04-08 Thread Deepa Mohan
ramjee, who has to warn his daughter to go read some good literature and get a life, instead of fiddling with the bloody computer. You know that I HAVE to respond to all mails that I receive thru all lists, including fwd:fwd:fwds as soon as they land in my mbox, but SHE? What excuse

Re: [silk] rant - Re: Wanted: Exceptional parents

2008-04-08 Thread ss
On Tuesday 08 Apr 2008 9:21:15 pm Deepa Mohan wrote: Ohwhatarelief, I am out of this which-school business! (and business it is, most times.) Getting a kid into school is only the tip of the iceberg. You later have the problem of getting out of school - and the little matter of adolescence in

Re: [silk] rant - Re: Wanted: Exceptional parents

2008-04-08 Thread Udhay Shankar N
ss wrote, [on 4/8/2008 9:49 PM]: It would be interesting to dip into silk-list archives and compare the general tone of discussions a decade ago versus now. How old is silk BTW? Just over a decade. As for tone, here's one message from almost exactly a decade ago, for purposes of

Re: [silk] rant - Re: Wanted: Exceptional parents

2008-04-08 Thread divya manian
On 4/8/08, Ramjee Swaminathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seriously, if pa feels that it is important enough to be part of such tamaashas, there is nothing wrong in the kid following in the footsteps of pa? On the contrary, assuming that he had gone to some museum or library or had some fun

Re: [silk] rant - Re: Wanted: Exceptional parents

2008-04-08 Thread ss
On Wednesday 09 Apr 2008 5:08:55 am divya manian wrote: Completely agree with this! I grew up with minimal toys not even the token robot or a barbie. Many years ago my son had a theme birthday based on his (then) current interest - aeroplanes. He got several aeroplane toys (and books, which I

[silk] Propaganda war

2008-04-08 Thread Udhay Shankar N
A snippet from a mail received from Simon Singh [1], whom some of the folks here will remember [2]. I suspect these sorts of skirmishes will become both more common and more virulent in the short term as BigOil tries to squeeze the last vestiges of profit out of the machine. Udhay [1]

Re: [silk] How did this guy wind up here?

2008-04-08 Thread Madhu Menon
Venkat Mangudi wrote: Ramakrishnan Sundaram wrote: OTOH, he's getting on in years and age (and marriage) have mellowed him. Marriage is probably doing the trick. Knowing him, age doesn't really matter. :-) So he's now a proper family man. I don't think I'm ever getting married. :P M --