Re: [silk] Any thoughts on the subject?

2014-07-16 Thread Heather Madrone
And, because this particular discussion reminded me, here are the Last Rites of Bokononism as transmitted by Kurt Vonnegut: God made mud. God got lonesome. So God said to some of the mud, “Sit up!” “See all I’ve made,” said God, “the hills, the sea, the sky, the stars.” And I was some of the mud

Re: [silk] Any thoughts on the subject?

2014-07-16 Thread Heather Madrone
SS wrote: No. I was joking. What? You've been trolling? Am I the only person on this mailing list who didn't know that? --hmm

Re: [silk] Any thoughts on the subject?

2014-07-15 Thread SS
On Wed, 2014-07-09 at 06:58 -0700, Heather Madrone wrote: > Or it could be that salvation is just another pretty fairy tale that > human beings use to paper over death. > > Perhaps there is nothing to be saved from, no true enlightenment, no > great mystery or puzzle to solve except for the ones

Re: [silk] Any thoughts on the subject?

2014-07-13 Thread Heather Madrone
Srini RamaKrishnan July 12, 2014 at 10:12 PM July 12, 2014 All reality is mental perception. We each believe that which is true for us in that moment. I am familiar with that idea. There is an area where it's a terrific operational strategy. The edges of that area are s

Re: [silk] Any thoughts on the subject?

2014-07-13 Thread Charles Haynes
On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 3:12 PM, Srini RamaKrishnan wrote: > All reality is mental perception. > That's what you think... > When the earth was flat, it was, when everyone started to believe it > was not, it was not. > This is what prompted me to comment. If everyone believed the Earth was fl

Re: [silk] Any thoughts on the subject?

2014-07-12 Thread Udhay Shankar N
On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 10:42 AM, Srini RamaKrishnan wrote: > All reality is mental perception. We each believe that which is true > for us in that moment. > > When the earth was flat, it was, when everyone started to believe it > was not, it was not. > > Right now for most of this world material

Re: [silk] Any thoughts on the subject?

2014-07-12 Thread Srini RamaKrishnan
On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 7:28 PM, Heather Madrone wrote: >> Srini RamaKrishnan >> July 1, 2014 at 9:36 AM July 1, 2014 >> >> Truly salvation lies within. > > > Or it could be that salvation is just another pretty fairy tale that human > beings use to paper over death. All

Re: [silk] Any thoughts on the subject?

2014-07-09 Thread Heather Madrone
Srini RamaKrishnan July 1, 2014 at 9:36 AM July 1, 2014 Truly salvation lies within. Or it could be that salvation is just another pretty fairy tale that human beings use to paper over death. Perhaps there is nothing to be saved from, no true enlightenment, no grea

Re: [silk] Any thoughts on the subject?

2014-07-01 Thread Shenoy N
> > > - a lot of things simply got screwed up with no easy solutions. > > The core of our current clusterfuck is due to the issues like > http://physics.ucsd.edu/do-the-math/2013/09/the-real-population-problem/ > which are definitely not the fault of science and technology. > > If we don't manage t

Re: [silk] Any thoughts on the subject?

2014-07-01 Thread Srini RamaKrishnan
On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 6:56 PM, SS wrote: > The topic is huge and is partly philosophical. Anything sufficiently complex is ultimately completely philosophical. There's a story I was told as a kid, maybe many of you have heard it. Wikipedia describes it rather blandly like so: "Once there was a

Re: [silk] Any thoughts on the subject?

2014-07-01 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Tue, Jul 01, 2014 at 06:56:58PM +0530, SS wrote: > That of course is untrue and scientists everywhere are beginning to > understand the limitations of science and the difficulties that are yet > to come to make the slightest progress. But that realization has come at > a cost - too many mistake

Re: [silk] Any thoughts on the subject?

2014-07-01 Thread SS
On Tue, 2014-07-01 at 15:50 +0530, Deepa Agashe wrote: > I'm a scientist, but I don't think most what I do has any direct > impact on > people at all. My work (understanding how evolution works, in a > nutshell) > makes some people happy and some angry, but mostly people don't care. > The > state o

Re: [silk] Any thoughts on the subject?

2014-07-01 Thread Deepa Agashe
On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 2:39 PM, SS wrote: > On Mon, 2014-06-30 at 09:18 +0530, Udhay Shankar N wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 9:05 AM, SS wrote: > > > > > Science decreased death rates and increased life-spans, causing a > > > population explosion like never before. The same science responde

Re: [silk] Any thoughts on the subject?

2014-07-01 Thread SS
On Mon, 2014-06-30 at 09:18 +0530, Udhay Shankar N wrote: > On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 9:05 AM, SS wrote: > > > Science decreased death rates and increased life-spans, causing a > > population explosion like never before. The same science responded to > > that by decreasing birth rate. > > The abov

Re: [silk] Any thoughts on the subject?

2014-06-29 Thread Deepa Agashe
On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 9:18 AM, Udhay Shankar N wrote: > On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 9:05 AM, SS wrote: > > > Science decreased death rates and increased life-spans, causing a > > population explosion like never before. The same science responded to > > that by decreasing birth rate. > > The above

Re: [silk] Any thoughts on the subject?

2014-06-29 Thread Udhay Shankar N
On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 9:05 AM, SS wrote: > Science decreased death rates and increased life-spans, causing a > population explosion like never before. The same science responded to > that by decreasing birth rate. The above means what, exactly? How did "science" decrease birth rate? > It is a

Re: [silk] Any thoughts on the subject?

2014-06-29 Thread SS
On Sun, 2014-06-29 at 18:31 +0530, Deepa Mohan wrote: > It's all very well to create these shapes...but what will they mean > for us? I like the word "USAnian" Deep you need to look at the triangles formed by the populations of Pakistan, Syria, Nigeria, Somalia, Bangladesh, to an extent India as

[silk] Any thoughts on the subject?

2014-06-29 Thread Deepa Mohan
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/06/the-shifting-shape-of-age-around-the-world/373638/ It's all very well to create these shapes...but what will they mean for us? "A top-heavy rectangle is a poor foundation for a social safety net." says the last line, but in a society like