A follow-up:
http://www.lokeshdhakar.com/2007/09/04/coffee-diagram-follow-up/
With a printable PDF and an vector image file...
On Sep 3, 2007 11:47 AM, Abhijit Menon-Sen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 2007-09-03 11:37:42 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
They're getting the best of both gene
On 9/1/07, ashok _ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 8/31/07, Rishab Aiyer Ghosh wrote:
i just got back from 10 days in ethiopia, where coffee was first
discovered and where the beans grow wild. ethiopian coffee is really
good, although i suspect this is more due to the initial preparation
At 2007-09-03 11:37:42 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
They're getting the best of both gene pools.
That doesn't make sense. They get whatever is in both gene pools, good
or bad. Besides, there isn't a look good gene.
It does seem to me, then, that the old war cry of racists verywhere
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On 8/31/07, Rishab Aiyer Ghosh wrote:
i just got back from 10 days in ethiopia, where coffee was first
discovered and where the beans grow wild. ethiopian coffee is really
good, although i suspect this is more due to the initial preparation
(good beans, , carefully and often freshly roasted,
i just got back from 10 days in ethiopia, where coffee was first
discovered and where the beans grow wild. ethiopian coffee is really
good, although i suspect this is more due to the initial preparation
(good beans, , carefully and often freshly roasted, always freshly
ground) than the brewing
On Thursday 30 Aug 2007 10:03 am, Deepa Mohan wrote:
coffee (or chicory or whatever!) is piping hot, and doesn't cool off
like the large cupfuls do; and the caffeine is in such small doses
Earthenware drink-ware (clay/ceramic mugs or glasses) tend to hold warmth much
longer - a fact that made
On Tuesday 28 Aug 2007 5:54 pm, Srini Ramakrishnan wrote:
My folks still prefer the chicory version, that's all they've had all
their lives. I really wouldn't be able to convince them to try a
darker, bitter coffee. To each his own.
Actually Chicory is not a South Indian additive. Pure coffee
I have been following this coffee thread, and I would like to make a
small point...I am probably unusual, but I do enjoy the very small,
thimbly sizes that coffee is served in, at our local Darshinis. The
coffee (or chicory or whatever!) is piping hot, and doesn't cool off
like the large cupfuls
It's also about the buzz. I don't worry to much about the drug-delivery
system as long as it's not downright foul. A good south Indian filter coffee
cuppa to me is unique and fantastic in it's own right. As is Java, blah,
blah..
Adit.
On 8/28/07, Srini Ramakrishnan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 8/27/07, shiv sastry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I currently use Kalmane's Mysore nuggets which is delivered home when I call
and ask.
+1 , I kinda found it pretty strong . I used to like Kothas Coffee,
not sure if you are getting the kinda beans they used to supply a few
years back
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A few thoughts, from an off-list friend, on the coffee discussion thus far.
He's quite sold on the coffee (and the pizza) in Napoli. Something to do
with the water and the volcanos and some such.
_
Yes, a few.
1) I don't put a lot of emphasis on the beans. Of course you do
Talking of decoction - on one of my trips to Tanjavur/Kumbakkonan, I was
offered coffee (they called it Kaapi-thani) by a villager. It was just the
decoction bit of the south Indian filter. No sugar, no milk. Along with
this, a lump of jaggery to lick at, in case I needed to sweeten my drink.
It
On 8/28/07, Chandrachoodan Gopalakrishnan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Talking of decoction
I assume decoction coffee has a higher caffeine content vis-a-vis an
espresso?
We used to make a concoction of coffee decoction, instant coffee granules
and sugar to stay awake in college. It tasted like
On Tuesday 28 Aug 2007 3:29 pm, Chandrachoodan Gopalakrishnan wrote:
Talking of decoction - on one of my trips to Tanjavur/Kumbakkonan, I was
offered coffee (they called it Kaapi-thani) by a villager. It was just the
decoction bit of the south Indian filter. No sugar, no milk. Along with
this,
On 8/28/07, Gautam John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A few thoughts, from an off-list friend, on the coffee discussion thus far.
He's quite sold on the coffee (and the pizza) in Napoli. Something to do
with the water and the volcanos and some such.
_
Yes, a few.
1) I don't
One of the things I did, when getting my coffee powder is blend the Peaberry
and Plantation A differently. (The old tam-bram way was half-half of both,
with a little chicory) About 65% Peaberry in a kilo of coffee-powder gives
you a more aromatic coffee. My dad didn't like it, though. Kept
On Tuesday 28 Aug 2007 3:24 pm, Gautam John wrote:
My own three-item checklist for a good cup of coffee: not burnt
or bitter; syrupy consistency; layer of coffee foam at least 2mm
thick.
Ages ago when I was newly married and living in England - my wife and I got
into the car one day in the
I agree with the points you make, and no, not all South Indian Coffee
is chicory laden. However, most variations of South Indian coffee
contain chicory. Chicory was introduced into South Indian Coffee
because real coffee beans were very expensive, and chicory was an
acceptable substitute. It's
On 8/27/07, Sriram Karra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hotel Saravana Bhavan
I'm partial to Airlines myself. But only in the mornings.
On 8/27/07, Venkat Mangudi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://www.lokeshdhakar.com/2007/08/20/an-illustrated-coffee-guide/
I wish all the baristas in the cafes in the US educated themselves at
least minimally from this site. It might not be a gourmet coffee
drinker's definitions, but surely
I remember when I was a kid, which is also when many of you were kids, the
'espresso' we'd get out of machines in India would be this terrible, milky
contraption. And I remember a scene at a Barista around the time when it
opened when someone ordered an espresso and was most upset that there was
On 8/27/07, Amit Varma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I remember when I was a kid, which is also when many of you were kids, the
'espresso' we'd get out of machines in India would be this terrible, milky
contraption.
Were these those red and gold/silver machines with a prominent spout
on one side?
Were these those red and gold/silver machines with a prominent spout
on one side? I remember seeing them at movie theaters, many moons ago,
but cannot recall the brand/trade names of those machines.
Can't remember brand name, but I do remember the spout. Suitably phallic,
given the horrid
On 8/27/07, Sriram Karra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 8/27/07, Gautam John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What do you reckon is the best coffee chain in Bangalore/India. Or
Hotel Saravana Bhavan might not be as hep, cool, or rocking as the
coffee shops mentiond in this thread. However, if the
Yup. But that should be no surprise, no?
C
On 27/08/07, Biju Chacko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 8/27/07, Sriram Karra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 8/27/07, Gautam John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What do you reckon is the best coffee chain in Bangalore/India. Or
Hotel Saravana Bhavan
Biju Chacko wrote:
I have to admit there isn't much to beat a good South Indian filter
coffee. This may get me excommunicated but I also think that, in
general, you get better coffee in Madras than Bangalore.
I agree with the former statement. But Kalmane coffee's Bluegrass by
the cup
Charles Haynes wrote:
So Venky, this is a throw down. Where do you think you can get a good
espresso in Bangalore. I'll meet you there.
That's Venki, not Venky. And I think that the best espresso is probably
at your place and I will meet you there before you become a
non-resident. :-)
My
Amit Varma wrote:
Were these those red and gold/silver machines with a prominent spout
on one side? I remember seeing them at movie theaters, many moons ago,
but cannot recall the brand/trade names of those machines.
Can't remember brand name, but I do remember the spout. Suitably phallic,
On 8/27/07, Venkat Mangudi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That's Venki, not Venky.
y the y ?
! the i ?
-- Vinayak
Venkat Mangudi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I agree with the former statement. But Kalmane coffee's Bluegrass by
the cup rocks... Their Nelyani is just Bluegrass with Elaichi powder.
But please avoid the outlet in Innovative multiplex.
Oxford Bookshop in Madras (haddows road) has a surprisingly
Cups Saucer has weird furniture. Much too small. Or, well, I'm much too
big.
Talking of coffee shops in Madras, I'll vouch for Amethyst. They brew good
stuff there.
C
On 27/08/07, Suresh Ramasubramanian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Venkat Mangudi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I agree with the
On 8/27/07, Chandrachoodan Gopalakrishnan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
While on the subject of coffee, I thought I'd share this wonderful
method of making iced coffee.
It's a very smooth and non-bitter brew. Quite different from the hot
brewed stuff.
I believe that I can make Mysooru coffee that tastes a lot better than any of
the coffees illustrated in that link and does not have an unpronounceable
foreign name.
shiv
On Monday 27 Aug 2007 10:48 am, Venkat Mangudi wrote:
http://www.lokeshdhakar.com/2007/08/20/an-illustrated-coffee-guide/
On 8/27/07, Venkat Mangudi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Charles Haynes wrote:
So Venky, this is a throw down. Where do you think you can get a good
espresso in Bangalore. I'll meet you there.
That's Venki, not Venky. And I think that the best espresso is probably
at your place and I will
Charles Haynes wrote:
Oops! Sorry. At my place is only my super-automatic. The cappucino I
make is actually at work when I can convince the helpers not to
helpfully pre-grind a hopper full of coffee. I've finally got the
So I guess I will have to meet you officially... ;)
tweakish like add a
shiv sastry wrote:
I believe that I can make Mysooru coffee that tastes a lot better than any of
the coffees illustrated in that link and does not have an unpronounceable
foreign name.
A good filter coffee is hard to come by these days... Have you tried any
of the fresh roasted and ground
On Monday 27 Aug 2007 7:49 pm, Venkat Mangudi wrote:
A good filter coffee is hard to come by these days... Have you tried any
of the fresh roasted and ground coffees from Kalmane?
I currently use Kalmane's Mysore nuggets which is delivered home when I call
and ask.
shiv
On 8/26/07, Gautam John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What do you reckon is the best coffee chain in Bangalore/India. Or
perhaps even the best stand alone coffee bar in Bangalore?
Those street corner kaapi kadai, of course!
Thaths
--
Homer: He has all the money in the world, but there's one thing
shiv sastry wrote:
I currently use Kalmane's Mysore nuggets which is delivered home when I
call
and ask.
Nice choice... Very good coffee...
On 8/27/07, Chandrachoodan Gopalakrishnan wrote:
Talking of coffee shops in Madras, I'll vouch for Amethyst. They brew good
stuff there.
C
there is also this idli-dosa joint in raja annamalai puram (its part
of some bigger chainforgot the name), they make very good
kumbakonam degree
On 8/27/07, Biju Chacko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 8/27/07, Sriram Karra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 8/27/07, Gautam John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What do you reckon is the best coffee chain in Bangalore/India. Or
Hotel Saravana Bhavan might not be as hep, cool, or rocking as the
On Tue, Aug 28, 2007 at 12:40:50AM +0530, Srini Ramakrishnan wrote:
I grew up in the hills, where I used to harvest coffee beans from our
home garden and help out in getting them dried, roasted and brewed.
Now that was exciting, but I am not sure if it ever could be termed
gourmet coffee.
On Tuesday 28 Aug 2007 12:40 am, Srini Ramakrishnan wrote:
Chicory laden south Indian coffee
Not all South Indian coffee is chicory laden.
The effect achieved by one's just like another chain outlets is to kill
variation in favor of promoting brand names that taste like mud. Like someone
On 8/28/07, Srini Ramakrishnan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Chicory laden south Indian coffee is not gourmet coffee by a long
shot. Too sweet and too milky, I mostly swore off that stuff a long
while ago. It was probably as good as it got for me when all I had for
I think we've already established
http://www.lokeshdhakar.com/2007/08/20/an-illustrated-coffee-guide/
I wish all the baristas in the cafes in the US educated themselves at
least minimally from this site. It might not be a gourmet coffee
drinker's definitions, but surely better than what most of the baristas
dole out. Many of them
On 8/27/07, Venkat Mangudi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have so far been impressed with the baristas in the cafes in
Bangalore. Most of them know how to prepare a good latte or
cappucino.
Including the ones who warn you that an espresso is black coffee? And
the ones who use tepid milk? My pet
I'll second Gautam. Cafes in Bangalore and Chennai like to state the
obvious.
Double shot espresso, saar? It's only black coffee saar...
Sir, Espresso will be a little bitter saar...
C
On 27/08/07, Gautam John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 8/27/07, Venkat Mangudi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I
Gautam John wrote:
Including the ones who warn you that an espresso is black coffee? And
the ones who use tepid milk? My pet peeves.
Gautam, I was in Delhi last week for my brother's wedding and happened
to drop into a Barista outlet to grab a coffee. And when I ordered a
cappuccino, I was
Chandrachoodan Gopalakrishnan wrote [at 11:02 AM 8/27/2007] :
I'll second Gautam. Cafes in Bangalore and Chennai like to state the
obvious.
Double shot espresso, saar? It's only black coffee saar...
Sir, Espresso will be a little bitter saar...
I'm willing to give them the benefit of the
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