I disagree a little with his description of a mocha. IME a proper
mocha is Steamed Milk/Unsweetened hot chocolate/Espresso in 1:1:1
proportion.
He also left off latte macchiato, but that's nearly unknown outside of
Italy (and pretty obscure even there).
-- Charles
I used to drink breves all the time for breakfast. Ah sweet memories.
-- Charles
On Nov 22, 2007 10:51 AM, Gautam John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A follow-up:
>
> http://www.lokeshdhakar.com/2007/09/04/coffee-diagram-follow-up/
>
> With a printable PDF and an vector image file...
>
>
> On Sep 3
A follow-up:
http://www.lokeshdhakar.com/2007/09/04/coffee-diagram-follow-up/
With a printable PDF and an vector image file...
On Sep 3, 2007 11:47 AM, Abhijit Menon-Sen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At 2007-09-03 11:37:42 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > They're getting the best of both g
At 2007-09-03 11:37:42 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> They're getting the best of both gene pools.
That doesn't make sense. They get whatever is in both gene pools, good
or bad. Besides, there isn't a "look good" gene.
> It does seem to me, then, that the old war cry of racists verywhere
>
On 9/1/07, ashok _ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 8/31/07, Rishab Aiyer Ghosh wrote:
> > i just got back from 10 days in ethiopia, where coffee was first
> > discovered and where the beans grow wild. ethiopian coffee is really
> > good, although i suspect this is more due to the initial preparatio
On 8/31/07, Rishab Aiyer Ghosh wrote:
> i just got back from 10 days in ethiopia, where coffee was first
> discovered and where the beans grow wild. ethiopian coffee is really
> good, although i suspect this is more due to the initial preparation
> (good beans, , carefully and often freshly roasted
i just got back from 10 days in ethiopia, where coffee was first
discovered and where the beans grow wild. ethiopian coffee is really
good, although i suspect this is more due to the initial preparation
(good beans, , carefully and often freshly roasted, always freshly
ground) than the brewing meth
On Thursday 30 Aug 2007 10:03 am, Deepa Mohan wrote:
> coffee (or chicory or whatever!) is piping hot, and doesn't cool off
> like the large cupfuls do; and the caffeine is in such small doses
Earthenware drink-ware (clay/ceramic mugs or glasses) tend to hold warmth much
longer - a fact that mad
I have been following this coffee thread, and I would like to make a
"small" point...I am probably unusual, but I do enjoy the very small,
thimbly sizes that coffee is served in, at our local Darshinis. The
coffee (or chicory or whatever!) is piping hot, and doesn't cool off
like the large cupfuls
On Tuesday 28 Aug 2007 5:54 pm, Srini Ramakrishnan wrote:
> My folks still prefer the chicory version, that's all they've had all
> their lives. I really wouldn't be able to convince them to try a
> darker, bitter coffee. To each his own.
Actually Chicory is not a South Indian additive. "Pure" co
I agree with the points you make, and no, not all South Indian Coffee
is chicory laden. However, most variations of South Indian coffee
contain chicory. Chicory was introduced into South Indian Coffee
because real coffee beans were very expensive, and chicory was an
acceptable substitute. It's poss
On Tuesday 28 Aug 2007 3:24 pm, Gautam John wrote:
> My own three-item checklist for a good cup of coffee: not burnt
> or bitter; syrupy consistency; layer of coffee foam at least 2mm
> thick.
Ages ago when I was newly married and living in England - my wife and I got
into the car one day in the
And that, coming just after Charles' little talk makes me look like a total
fool. Which, if you consider my goal, is perfectly according to plan.
C
On 28/08/07, Chandrachoodan Gopalakrishnan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> One of the things I did, when getting my coffee powder is blend the
> Peab
One of the things I did, when getting my coffee powder is blend the Peaberry
and Plantation A differently. (The old tam-bram way was half-half of both,
with a little chicory) About 65% Peaberry in a kilo of coffee-powder gives
you a more aromatic coffee. My dad didn't like it, though. Kept insistin
On 8/28/07, Gautam John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A few thoughts, from an off-list friend, on the coffee discussion thus far.
>
> He's quite sold on the coffee (and the pizza) in Napoli. Something to do
> with the water and the volcanos and some such.
> _
>
> Yes, a few.
>
>
On Tuesday 28 Aug 2007 3:29 pm, Chandrachoodan Gopalakrishnan wrote:
> Talking of decoction - on one of my trips to Tanjavur/Kumbakkonan, I was
> offered coffee (they called it Kaapi-thani) by a villager. It was just the
> decoction bit of the south Indian filter. No sugar, no milk. Along with
> th
On 8/28/07, Chandrachoodan Gopalakrishnan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Talking of decoction
I assume decoction coffee has a higher caffeine content vis-a-vis an
espresso?
We used to make a concoction of coffee decoction, instant coffee granules
and sugar to stay awake in college. It tasted like c
Talking of decoction - on one of my trips to Tanjavur/Kumbakkonan, I was
offered coffee (they called it Kaapi-thani) by a villager. It was just the
decoction bit of the south Indian filter. No sugar, no milk. Along with
this, a lump of jaggery to lick at, in case I needed to sweeten my drink.
It w
A few thoughts, from an off-list friend, on the coffee discussion thus far.
He's quite sold on the coffee (and the pizza) in Napoli. Something to do
with the water and the volcanos and some such.
_
Yes, a few.
1) I don't put a lot of emphasis on the beans. Of course you do ne
On 8/27/07, shiv sastry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I currently use Kalmane's "Mysore nuggets" which is delivered home when I call
> and ask.
+1 , I kinda found it pretty strong . I used to like Kothas Coffee,
not sure if you are getting the kinda beans they used to supply a few
years back
--
It's also about the buzz. I don't worry to much about the drug-delivery
system as long as it's not downright foul. A good south Indian filter coffee
cuppa to me is unique and fantastic in it's own right. As is Java, blah,
blah..
Adit.
On 8/28/07, Srini Ramakrishnan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
On 8/28/07, Srini Ramakrishnan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Chicory laden south Indian coffee is not gourmet coffee by a long
> shot. Too sweet and too milky, I mostly swore off that stuff a long
> while ago. It was probably as good as it got for me when all I had for
I think we've already establi
On Tuesday 28 Aug 2007 12:40 am, Srini Ramakrishnan wrote:
> Chicory laden south Indian coffee
Not all South Indian coffee is "chicory laden".
The effect achieved by "one's just like another" chain outlets is to kill
variation in favor of promoting brand names that taste like mud. Like someone
On Tue, Aug 28, 2007 at 12:40:50AM +0530, Srini Ramakrishnan wrote:
> I grew up in the hills, where I used to harvest coffee beans from our
> home garden and help out in getting them dried, roasted and brewed.
> Now that was exciting, but I am not sure if it ever could be termed
> gourmet coffee.
On 8/27/07, Biju Chacko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 8/27/07, Sriram Karra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 8/27/07, Gautam John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > What do you reckon is the best coffee chain in Bangalore/India. Or
> >
> > Hotel Saravana Bhavan might not be as hep, cool, or ro
On 8/27/07, Chandrachoodan Gopalakrishnan wrote:
> Talking of coffee shops in Madras, I'll vouch for Amethyst. They brew good
> stuff there.
>
> C
there is also this idli-dosa joint in raja annamalai puram (its part
of some bigger chainforgot the name), they make very good
kumbakonam "degree
shiv sastry wrote:
> I currently use Kalmane's "Mysore nuggets" which is delivered home when I
> call
> and ask.
Nice choice... Very good coffee...
On 8/26/07, Gautam John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What do you reckon is the best coffee chain in Bangalore/India. Or
> perhaps even the best stand alone coffee bar in Bangalore?
Those street corner kaapi kadai, of course!
Thaths
--
Homer: He has all the money in the world, but there's one thi
On Monday 27 Aug 2007 7:49 pm, Venkat Mangudi wrote:
> A good filter coffee is hard to come by these days... Have you tried any
> of the fresh roasted and ground coffees from Kalmane?
I currently use Kalmane's "Mysore nuggets" which is delivered home when I call
and ask.
shiv
shiv sastry wrote:
> I believe that I can make Mysooru coffee that tastes a lot better than any of
> the coffees illustrated in that link and does not have an unpronounceable
> foreign name.
A good filter coffee is hard to come by these days... Have you tried any
of the fresh roasted and ground
Charles Haynes wrote:
> Oops! Sorry. At my place is only my super-automatic. The cappucino I
> make is actually at work when I can convince the helpers not to
> helpfully pre-grind a hopper full of coffee. I've finally got the
So I guess I will have to meet you "officially"... ;)
> tweakish like
On 8/27/07, Venkat Mangudi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Charles Haynes wrote:
> >
> > So Venky, this is a throw down. Where do you think you can get a good
> > espresso in Bangalore. I'll meet you there.
>
> That's Venki, not Venky. And I think that the best espresso is probably
> at your place and
I believe that I can make Mysooru coffee that tastes a lot better than any of
the coffees illustrated in that link and does not have an unpronounceable
foreign name.
shiv
On Monday 27 Aug 2007 10:48 am, Venkat Mangudi wrote:
> http://www.lokeshdhakar.com/2007/08/20/an-illustrated-coffee-guide/
On 8/27/07, Chandrachoodan Gopalakrishnan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
While on the subject of coffee, I thought I'd share this wonderful
method of making iced coffee.
It's a very smooth and non-bitter brew. Quite different from the hot
brewed stuff.
http://technically.us/eat/x/cold-brewed-iced-co
Cups & Saucer has weird furniture. Much too small. Or, well, I'm much too
big.
Talking of coffee shops in Madras, I'll vouch for Amethyst. They brew good
stuff there.
C
On 27/08/07, Suresh Ramasubramanian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Venkat Mangudi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >
> > I agree w
Venkat Mangudi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I agree with the former statement. But Kalmane coffee's "Bluegrass" by
the cup rocks... Their Nelyani is just Bluegrass with Elaichi powder.
But please avoid the outlet in Innovative multiplex.
Oxford Bookshop in Madras (haddows road) has a surprisin
On 8/27/07, Venkat Mangudi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That's Venki, not Venky.
y the y ?
& ! the i ?
-- Vinayak
Amit Varma wrote:
>> Were these those red and gold/silver machines with a prominent spout
>> on one side? I remember seeing them at movie theaters, many moons ago,
>> but cannot recall the brand/trade names of those machines.
>>
>
> Can't remember brand name, but I do remember the spout. Suitably
Charles Haynes wrote:
>
> So Venky, this is a throw down. Where do you think you can get a good
> espresso in Bangalore. I'll meet you there.
That's Venki, not Venky. And I think that the best espresso is probably
at your place and I will meet you there before you become a
non-resident. :-)
My s
Biju Chacko wrote:
>
> I have to admit there isn't much to beat a good South Indian filter
> coffee. This may get me excommunicated but I also think that, in
> general, you get better coffee in Madras than Bangalore.
>
I agree with the former statement. But Kalmane coffee's "Bluegrass" by
the cu
Yup. But that should be no surprise, no?
C
On 27/08/07, Biju Chacko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 8/27/07, Sriram Karra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 8/27/07, Gautam John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > What do you reckon is the best coffee chain in Bangalore/India. Or
> >
> > Hotel
On 8/27/07, Sriram Karra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 8/27/07, Gautam John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > What do you reckon is the best coffee chain in Bangalore/India. Or
>
> Hotel Saravana Bhavan might not be as hep, cool, or rocking as the
> coffee shops mentiond in this thread. However, i
>
> Were these those red and gold/silver machines with a prominent spout
> on one side? I remember seeing them at movie theaters, many moons ago,
> but cannot recall the brand/trade names of those machines.
>
Can't remember brand name, but I do remember the spout. Suitably phallic,
given the horri
On 8/27/07, Amit Varma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I remember when I was a kid, which is also when many of you were kids, the
> 'espresso' we'd get out of machines in India would be this terrible, milky
> contraption.
Were these those red and gold/silver machines with a prominent spout
on one si
I remember when I was a kid, which is also when many of you were kids, the
'espresso' we'd get out of machines in India would be this terrible, milky
contraption. And I remember a scene at a Barista around the time when it
opened when someone ordered an espresso and was most upset that there was no
On 8/27/07, Venkat Mangudi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://www.lokeshdhakar.com/2007/08/20/an-illustrated-coffee-guide/
>
> I wish all the baristas in the cafes in the US educated themselves at
> least minimally from this site. It might not be a gourmet coffee
> drinker's definitions, but surel
On 8/27/07, Sriram Karra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hotel Saravana Bhavan
I'm partial to Airlines myself. But only in the mornings.
On 8/27/07, Gautam John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What do you reckon is the best coffee chain in Bangalore/India. Or
Hotel Saravana Bhavan might not be as hep, cool, or rocking as the
coffee shops mentiond in this thread. However, if the objective is to
seek out a place which knows the most ef
Chandrachoodan Gopalakrishnan wrote [at 11:02 AM 8/27/2007] :
I'll second Gautam. Cafes in Bangalore and Chennai like to state the
obvious.
"Double shot espresso, saar? It's only black coffee saar..."
"Sir, Espresso will be a little bitter saar..."
I'm willing to give them the benefit of the
Gautam John wrote:
Including the ones who warn you that an espresso is black coffee? And
the ones who use tepid milk? My pet peeves.
Gautam, I was in Delhi last week for my brother's wedding and happened
to drop into a Barista outlet to grab a coffee. And when I ordered a
cappuccino, I was a
I'll second Gautam. Cafes in Bangalore and Chennai like to state the
obvious.
"Double shot espresso, saar? It's only black coffee saar..."
"Sir, Espresso will be a little bitter saar..."
C
On 27/08/07, Gautam John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 8/27/07, Venkat Mangudi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrot
On 8/27/07, Venkat Mangudi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have so far been impressed with the baristas in the cafes in
Bangalore. Most of them know >how to prepare a good latte or
cappucino.
Including the ones who warn you that an espresso is black coffee? And
the ones who use tepid milk? My pet p
http://www.lokeshdhakar.com/2007/08/20/an-illustrated-coffee-guide/
I wish all the baristas in the cafes in the US educated themselves at
least minimally from this site. It might not be a gourmet coffee
drinker's definitions, but surely better than what most of the baristas
dole out. Many of them
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