CS>Volume...

1999-05-17 Thread M. G. Devour
Just wanted to note: We are generating as many *digests* per day as we used to generate individual messages some days in the past. I want to thank everyone for standing up to the flood of information. It would be harder to do if the quality wasn't so high. Okay, we've had little bits of everyt

CS>Filters and Flouride

1999-05-17 Thread Enter your name here
>Most water filters like Britta and Pur will only remove chlorine. Does anyone know of a filter that will remove flouride?< Well I have spent countless hours investigating this very subject as I found out about 5 months ago that I am allergic to flouride. Reverse Osmosis filters will remove flouri

CS>Smile

1999-05-17 Thread Tai-Pan
Hi all, Heres a smile from me to all you wonderful beautiful people. http://www.utec.net/dollym/smile.htm Bless you Bob Lee -- oozing on the muggy shore of the gulf coast l...@fbtc.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver

Re: CS Electrochemistry - exactly what is CS? Answer.

1999-05-17 Thread Wong111
Ivan That was a good informative post in response. wong -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subs

Re: CS and flouride - Need advice

1999-05-17 Thread Wong111
In a message dated 5/16/99 9:10:45 PM Pacific Daylight Time, samma...@aol.com writes: << There are reverse osmosis systems on the market that will remove fluoride but you have to be specific about the fluoride when you inquire. The cheapest I found was about $250. I learned that distillati

Re: CS>Response to po...@labyrinth.net.au (Electrochemistry...) (long)

1999-05-17 Thread Michael Anthony
BRAVO! Mike D. You have the patience of a saint. Michael > ***CONCLUSIONS*** > > The identity confusion in this message leaves me unsure whether > po...@labyrinth.net.au and Peter Crowcroft are the same person, and > in any case just who the expert "poida" consulted is and what his > qualifica

CS>Re: [Fwd: Uses of CS]

1999-05-17 Thread poida
Tai-Pan wrote: > Hi poida, > Here are some real things you can do . Make some good CS and do a few > real tests (real world stuff). Don`t let your mouth overload your brain, > also known as engage brain before starting mouth. :-) > They are not real tests without the control experiments! I s

Re: CS> HIV question

1999-05-17 Thread Simon Caleb
- Original Message - From: > Hi All, > > I haven't read much about CS use with HIV specifically here, but I have a > question: if I were to send someone CS to try, would it be important to > advise them to start very slowly with the CS and watch out for severe herx? > Thanks in adva

Re: CS>Volume...

1999-05-17 Thread Michael Anthony
What is Dameon Likowski's story? Can someone repost it or send it ot me directly? I'd love to hear another success story. Michael "M. G. Devour" wrote: > > Just wanted to note: We are generating as many *digests* per day as > we used to generate individual messages some days in the past. > > I

Re: CS>Silver wire orders

1999-05-17 Thread M. G. Devour
Teee Heee! Did I *nail* it, or not! Thanks for taking good care, Marsha. Mike D. (taking amusement in small things!) > Dear Folks, > The silver wire I was sent is OK! I`ll be shipping out your orders > this morning. Sems the fabricator at H&M was out of 14 gauge, so he > took 12 gauge and drew

Re: CS>Further Response to Peter Crowcroft...

1999-05-17 Thread M. G. Devour
> Great Post Mike. Which leads me to a question. I belong to > several other lists like this, and ALL of them discourage any > copying or forwarding of list material. Does this list also? I haven't given it much thought, and I don't really have much of a problem with it in principle. Anything

CS>When to Go Beyond Science?

1999-05-17 Thread Nicolas Bendezu
While searching for D.G. William's Alternative newsletter, I found an amazing site today. It's called "QuackWatch," part of the "Skeptic Ring." I'm still trying to figure out whether it's a valuable resource or a pile of big brother doo-doo. Search resources on the site give excerpts such as thes

CS>Re: Single-Blind Tests

1999-05-17 Thread poida
Tai-Pan wrote: > > Kids came home from school a while back with reports of 1/3 of class > out ill and kids sitting in hallways waiting for rides home because of > illness. Immediately began extra spoons of CS every day to prevent my > kids getting ill (or me). Called school office,they reported

CS>Oh no, not another question!

1999-05-17 Thread Sharon L. House
Got another question, guys & gals, This about the home production of CS. Just as soon as I receive the silver wire, I'll be making my own very first batch of CS. My son is also now taking an active interest in it and I have ordered enough wire for him too. My son was talking to me about the sugges

CS>Re: Smile

1999-05-17 Thread Sharon L. House
>Hi all, Heres a smile from me to all you wonderful beautiful people. http://www.utec.net/dollym/smile.htm Bless you Bob Lee Thank you, Bob, that was sweet. Sharon -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-dige

Re: CS>Silver///Day 4

1999-05-17 Thread Scharbach
I am very happy for you! Have a blast on your trip, and keep a journal so you can "share" with us when you get back!! Sparrow > >Am many times better than I was a few weeks ago when I showed up on the >list in a "crash" state. I want to thank the very special people on this >list for their sup

Re: CS>Further Response to Peter Crowcroft...

1999-05-17 Thread Scharbach
Great Post Mike. Which leads me to a question. I belong to several other lists like this, and ALL of them discourage any copying or forwarding of list material. Does this list also? I am DYING to send this post to a friend of mine, whose favorite (ack gagg) website is Quackwatch. . . . . . S

Re: CS>Re: Single-Blind Tests

1999-05-17 Thread Jason Ringas
poida wrote: > > Tai-Pan wrote: > > > > > Kids came home from school a while back with reports of 1/3 of class > > out ill and kids sitting in hallways waiting for rides home because of > > illness. Immediately began extra spoons of CS every day to prevent my > > kids getting ill (or me). Called

CS>Silver wire orders

1999-05-17 Thread Marsha Hallett
Dear Folks, The silver wire I was sent is OK! I`ll be shipping out your orders this morning. Sems the fabricator at H&M was out of 14 gauge, so he took 12 gauge and drew it out, which increased the hardness and shininess. It is still good. Whew! Marsha -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for

Re: CS>When to Go Beyond Science?

1999-05-17 Thread Scharbach
GREAT letter Nick! I love it! I *wanted* to write something like that to him but the brain "frog" just won't let me right now. I'm glad you did though! Sparrow >While searching for D.G. William's Alternative newsletter, I found an amazing >site today. It's called "QuackWatch," part of

CS>Peter Crowcroft & Electrochemistry

1999-05-17 Thread alonzow
I am one of these 5 day/week listmembers, so I got the whole load of Crowcroft material this morning. I am pleased at how well you all answered his salvo - nice job! Let me say that I make CS using the LVDC method and I have learned a lot from the recommendations on the list. I and my family hav

CS>Testing

1999-05-17 Thread Mike Marr
poida wrote: "2. Other people with anecdotes may think up the same type of single-blind test: 2 lots of cut flowers - one with CS and the other with distilled water. Ask someone who does not know about the test to say which bunch is 'better'." There is an individual on the list who has set out

Re: CS>Silver wire orders

1999-05-17 Thread Marsha Hallett
Teee Heee! Did I *nail* it, or not! Thanks for taking good care, Marsha. Mike D. (taking amusement in small things!) Mikey, You are SO good!! Sure wish I could`ve met you when we were in Michigan, sigh... Love, Marsha -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal si

Re: CS>Oh no, not another question!

1999-05-17 Thread Marsha Hallett
>Got another question, guys & gals, > >This about the home production of CS. Just as soon as I receive the silver >wire, I'll be making my own very first batch of CS. My son is also now >taking an active interest in it and I have ordered enough wire for him too. >My son was talking to me about the

CS>Drew it out??

1999-05-17 Thread Sharon L. House
>so he took 12 gauge and drew it out, Drew it out?? Just shows ta go ya how much I know! Anyway, so glad to hear it's okay and thanks for letting us know, Marsha. Sharon -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest s

Re: CS & Search Engines

1999-05-17 Thread Marsha Hallett
>- quacks in general have discovered there is a gold mine (silver mine :-) >) to be had in selling tap water in bottles at $US7 per oz to the >worried-well market. > >I see the same pattern in the quack cancer cures market. > >peter crowcroft Hey Pete! Would you call ME a quack? I was cured

Re: CS>Drew it out??

1999-05-17 Thread Marsha Hallett
>>so he took 12 gauge and drew it out, > > >Drew it out?? Just shows ta go ya how much I know! Anyway, so glad to hear >it's okay and thanks for letting us know, Marsha. > >Sharon Dear Sharon, He took the thicker wire, heated it, and pulled it finer through a thingy that made it end up the rig

CS>Re: Oh no, not another question!

1999-05-17 Thread Sharon L. House
Marsha, I think some of the thermos are metal but the wide mouth ones I have here are lined in plastic. I don't even know if they make glass ones anymore. Isn't there another layer between the inside and outside that used to be glass? I remember occasionally it would break inside but I wouldn't se

CS>Still wet behind the ears and learning the lingo

1999-05-17 Thread Sharon L. House
>>so he took 12 gauge and drew it out, > > >Drew it out?? Just shows ta go ya how much I know! Anyway, so glad to hear >it's okay and thanks for letting us know, Marsha. > >Sharon Dear Sharon, He took the thicker wire, heated it, and pulled it finer through a thingy that made it end up the right

CS>questions regarding msm..

1999-05-17 Thread Teri323
l have been reading all the posts on msm but l have not heard anyone mention whether there is any discomfort when you begin taking the msm. If there is some discomfort from die off...how long does it last...how much msm should be taken? l am wondering where is the least expensive place online

Re: CS>questions regarding msm..

1999-05-17 Thread June Narber Harrison
I have been taking MSM for over a year. I have never had any discomfort, and have had immediate results with it. The only discomfort I have is if I skip a day, my joints start hurting again something horrible! I used to take 1000 milligrams (one tablet) 2/a day, but was decided to triple that dos

CS and disease

1999-05-17 Thread ddJ
I have read many anecdotes about CS and disease. Is there any information anyone has heard of about CS and hepatitis. If so I would like to hear about it. Thanks D. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-

Re: CS>Re: Oh no, not another question!

1999-05-17 Thread Marsha Hallett
>Marsha, > >I think some of the thermos are metal but the wide mouth ones I have here >are lined in plastic. I don't even know if they make glass ones anymore. >Isn't there another layer between the inside and outside that used to be >glass? I remember occasionally it would break inside but I would

CS>Not about CS, but legislation that affects us all

1999-05-17 Thread Sheila Underhill
> >CNN reported that in the next two weeks, Congress is going to vote on >allowing telephone companies to charge for Internet access. >That means, every time we send a long distance e-mail we will receive a >long distance charge. This will get costly. Please visit the following >web site AND c

Re: CS>Re: Oh no, not another question!

1999-05-17 Thread Wong111
In a message dated 5/17/99 11:42:40 AM Pacific Daylight Time, liah...@pacbell.net writes: << I wouldn`t make CS in plastic, no telling what might happen. Marsha >> I make it in a rubbermaid plastic container. wong -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. T

Re: CS>Silver Bullet

1999-05-17 Thread Susan M. Yensen
At 10:25 PM 5/16/99 -0700, you wrote: >Regarding the guy who wrote "The Silver Bullet" and supposedly went from >Lyme to MS... Vilik, I talked with Dr. Paul Farber and from my understanding of our conversation, he said that he had arrested his MS with the CS or MSP is what he uses. I don't think i

Re: CS>Some more

1999-05-17 Thread Susan M. Yensen
Oh yes, I forgot that because I wear heavy cushy and nylon stockings all winter I got the most horrible itchy fungus on my feet and this is from someone who can't really feel her feet. I was going nuts and then I started in on the CS orally now. I dried my feet better:-) Soaked them once in vine

Re: CS>Re: Single-Blind Tests

1999-05-17 Thread poida
Jason Ringas wrote: > poida wrote: > > > > Tai-Pan wrote: > > > > > > > > Kids came home from school a while back with reports of 1/3 of class > > > out ill and kids sitting in hallways waiting for rides home because of > > > illness. Immediately began extra spoons of CS every day to prevent my

Re: CS>Testing

1999-05-17 Thread poida
Mike Marr wrote: > poida wrote: > > "2. Other people with anecdotes may think up the same type of > single-blind test: 2 lots of cut flowers - one with CS and the > other with distilled water. Ask someone who does not know about the test > to say which bunch is 'better'." > > There is an individ

CS for Burns

1999-05-17 Thread Dean Woodward
Hi Listers: My wife burned her hand rather severely while cooking. Since she is midway through cemo therapy it scared us. We applied home-made (LVDC) CS, and the pain stopped instantly. The burn healed well, with only a little topical antibiotic for the last bit of healing. Bear in mind that the c

CS Gens

1999-05-17 Thread Earle Bonner
We are searching for a good lvdc gen and were wondering if this list could offer up some suggestions from your experience?? Any pertinent info appreciated. Thanks, ea...@mailcity.com Get your FREE Email at http://mailcity.lycos.com Get your PERSONALIZED START PAGE at http://my.lycos.com -- T

CS>References

1999-05-17 Thread poida
Some people asked for references: 1. Amount of silver to cause argyria. Studies over the years vary because of the difficulty of knowing the exact dose taken, how much Ag+ is available for reaction and the exact form of the silver. It is always ionic silver - silver salts - not silver metal. There

Re: CS Electrochemistry - exactly what is CS?

1999-05-17 Thread poida
samma...@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 5/16/99 11:20:27 AM EST, po...@labyrinth.net.au writes: > > << 2. CS cures I have read are all anecdote. There is zero medical evidence > that CS at 30 ppm say can cure anything or have any antiseptic effect. > About the only orally ingested drug wh

Re: CS Electrochemistry - exactly what is CS?

1999-05-17 Thread poida
Vilik Rapheles wrote: > >Dear Peter, > > things on people and observed what worked. The "scientific method" which is > now needed in order for any modality of healing to be accepted by the > medical community is just a very effective way to keep money flowing into > the mega-companies who can in

Re: CS Electrochemistry - exactly what is CS?

1999-05-17 Thread M. G. Devour
Peter Crowcroft wrote: > You know one of the mantras of the alt-med people is that the bad > drug companies are making huge profits from their antibiotic (and > chemotherapy) drugs. Perhaps, Peter, but I've more often heard that they simply don't want any other options, or at least any they don'

Re: CS>Re: [Fwd: Uses of CS]

1999-05-17 Thread tj garland
In my job, I get many small cuts on my hands. I have used side by side on the same day, CS and Alcohol- CS and Iodine- CS and Neosporin- CS and first aid cream. I have done this experiment at least 2 dozen times. EVERY TIME, the CS treated cut healed in less than half the time, was never "sore" and

CS>question on arthritic mother just beginning cs...

1999-05-17 Thread Teri323
My mom has just begun taking cs daily...she has noticed an increase in pain in her joints and fingers, arms, legs and hipsl told her l would ask the group is this a normal reaction...l dont know enough about it to advise her. she is saying she doenst think it is for her..and is going to stop

Re: CS Electrochemistry - exactly what is CS?

1999-05-17 Thread poida
samma...@aol.com wrote: > Finally, Peter Lindemann reports in his 1997 > article,'Colloidal Silver, A Closer Look' that a > study conducted in part by the Institute of > Microbiology in Rome, Italy and published in > 'Applied Environmental Microbiology (Dec. 1992), > stated that "Pure electro-co

Re: CS>question on arthritic mother just beginning cs...

1999-05-17 Thread Donna2424
It sounds as if your mom is having a reaction to the die off in her body. What was your mom taking it for. With lyme and other diseases within the body a herx reaction will occur when enought toxins build up within the body. Getting thru this is the tough part. A herx reaction includes in

Re: CS>Silver wire orders

1999-05-17 Thread patff
Hey, Marsha, thanks for doing DD on the silver wire...I appreciate your concern and taking the time to check it out. Can't wait to get the rest of mine. Pat Shroyer On Mon, 17 May 1999 07:32:24 -0700 "Marsha Hallett" writes: >Dear Folks, >The silver wire I was sent is OK! I`ll be shipping out

Re: CS>Further Response to Peter Crowcroft...

1999-05-17 Thread Charles King
On Mon, 17 May 1999 01:23:41 +, "M. G. Devour" wrote: >Chuck responded: > >> Oh no, >> We're going to usenet mode folks! >> The list is gonna be: >> Quack,Quack! >> No it's not! >> Quack, Quack! >> No it's not! >> ad nauseum... >> >> Please go away!!! > >Calm down, Chuck! We're n

Re: CS>Re: Single-Blind Tests

1999-05-17 Thread aka Jhon
"Of all the tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment

CS>Re: question on arthritic mother just beginning cs...

1999-05-17 Thread Sharon L. House
Teri, Sounds like classic dieoff symptoms to me. Same thing happened to my husband. He went off it and it let up, now he's back on it again. Pain in joints is one of the most common signs of dieoff. Unfortunately, many people think it's the CS that's harming them and go off it before it can do any

Re: CS>Re: Single-Blind Tests

1999-05-17 Thread aka Jhon
"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." -- Sigmund Freud, General Introduction to Psychoanlysis (1952) - Original Message - From: aka Jhon To: Sent: Monday, May 17, 1999 8:56 PM Subject: Re: CS>Re: Single-Blind Tests > "Of all the tyrannies, a tyranny

Re: CS Electrochemistry - exactly what is CS?

1999-05-17 Thread Bill Schramm
If you ingest c.bot. (botulism) toxin at this level, it will definitely affect you. You will be dead. -Original Message- From: poida To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, May 17, 1999 4:10 PM Subject: Re: CS Electrochemistry - exactly what is CS? > > >samma...@aol.com wrote: > >> I

Re: CS>Re: [Fwd: Uses of CS]

1999-05-17 Thread poida
tj garland wrote: > In my job, I get many small cuts on my hands. I have used side by side on > the same day, CS and Alcohol- CS and Iodine- CS and Neosporin- CS and first > aid cream. I have done this experiment at least 2 dozen times. EVERY TIME, > the CS treated cut healed in less than half t

CS>the so-called salt test

1999-05-17 Thread Keith Courtenay
I am replying to the so-called salt test that was put out. in 1998 I had this colloidal silver analysed by the Queensland Government( Australia) scientific services, the report was as follows: silver(mg/L) 18.9/ pH 7.9 .about average; a copy of this document is available to all. This Company adv

Re: CS and flouride - Need advice

1999-05-17 Thread Skylake
<< While not a pundit on the subject, I would offer a comment on some interesting data we gained several years agowhile conducting tests on dogs and thorobred race horses... >> Dear Brooks, I found this extremely interesting (as are all of your posts) and am forwarding it to my friend.

CS>Re: COmparing costs. . . . . .

1999-05-17 Thread Scharbach
Well, it's not Amoxycillin, (last time I used that was for my dog, 6 months ago a 10 day supply was $16.00 250 mg 3x a day)but the Zithromax I am using is costing me $350.00 per month, for 60 pills. . . . . . . . My silver costs me, $20.00 in batteries, and $5.00 in silver, for a much longer t

Re: CS and flouride - Need advice

1999-05-17 Thread Skylake
<< Easy solution to problem: avoid all fluoride products entirely. Big scam. Helps only tiny bit with deciduous teeth; the ones that naturally fall out. Deadly poison. Accumulative. Well documented. Makes enamel very hard, but softens dentine. Neurotoxic, brittle bones, spurs, iridesce

Re: CS>Re: [Fwd: Uses of CS]

1999-05-17 Thread Sinaj101
I have refrained from joining this little discussion but sorry folks this guy is getting on my nerves. I was diagnosed with Chronic Lyme in Sept. of 97 and for many years I have had dark circles under my eyes and after only a week on CS most of that went away. I had been on lots of abx conti

Re: CS Electrochemistry - exactly what is CS?

1999-05-17 Thread Marsha Hallett
>2. compare the price of a course of antibiotics with the $US7.00 per oz that >the CS bottles sell for. > >Just who is more expensive than whom? > >Answers please... > >peter crowcroft > Dear Peter, Are you forgetting about the CS users, most of us on this list, who make their own for a few

CS,,.tooth extraction

1999-05-17 Thread RON BRENNEN
I recently had two teeth extracted, Instead of taking an antibotic for infection and anacin for the pain as recommended by the dentist I saturated a gauze pad with CS and bit down on it. The results were amazing. I had no pain or swelling and the gums had closed over and were almost healed in two d

Re: CS>Re: COmparing costs. . . . . .

1999-05-17 Thread Sinaj101
Great Sparrow, I am glad you are having some good days. I hope things continue to just get better and better. Take care, Janis -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-

Re: CS Electrochemistry - exactly what is CS?

1999-05-17 Thread Donna2424
You tell'em Marsha. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT li

Re: CS>Drew it out??

1999-05-17 Thread RON BRENNEN
Marsha Hallett wrote: > > >>so he took 12 gauge and drew it out, > > > > > >Drew it out?? Just shows ta go ya how much I know! Anyway, so glad to hear > >it's okay and thanks for letting us know, Marsha. > > > >Sharon > > Dear Sharon, > He took the thicker wire, heated it, and pulled it finer thr

Re: CS>Re: [Fwd: Uses of CS]

1999-05-17 Thread Marsha Hallett
>tj garland wrote: > >> In my job, I get many small cuts on my hands. I have used side by side on >> the same day, CS and Alcohol- CS and Iodine- CS and Neosporin- CS and first >> aid cream. I have done this experiment at least 2 dozen times. EVERY TIME, >> the CS treated cut healed in less than

Re: CS>Re: COmparing costs. . . . . .

1999-05-17 Thread Marsha Hallett
>Well, it's not Amoxycillin, (last time I used that was for my dog, 6 months >ago >a 10 day supply was $16.00 250 mg 3x a day)but the Zithromax I am using >is costing me $350.00 per month, for 60 pills. . . . . . . . > >My silver costs me, $20.00 in batteries, and $5.00 in silver, for a much

Re: CS Electrochemistry - exactly what is CS?

1999-05-17 Thread Marsha Hallett
>You tell'em Marsha. Groowww, Don`t NOBODY mess with my CS!!! God sent it to me, and I`ll defend it come heck or high water! Or know-it-all know nothings... Marsha, who would have been DEAD 3 years ago without it -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal

Re: CS>Still wet behind the ears and learning the lingo

1999-05-17 Thread boberger
Marsha, The "thingy" is called a draw plate in the metal trades. Robert -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com

Re: CS>Re: Oh no, not another question!

1999-05-17 Thread boberger
Wong, There is nothing wrong with the clear plastic as found in bottled water or sogft drinks. I use the SOLO 16 oz cup from the grocery store, and Bob Lee use the same type in his portable unit. Don't gag at a nat and swallow a camel. Robert wong...@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 5/17/9