RE: CS>Where to find 50 ppm......

2001-08-01 Thread Ivan Anderson
Frank wrote: > Keep in mind that ionic silver applied to the skin quickly dries. > In doing so, the silver ions are converted to silver oxide which > is nearly insoluble in water. I believe that this would result in > a film of silver oxide deposited on the surface of the skin. The > silver oxide

RE: CS>Where to find 50 ppm......

2001-08-01 Thread Ivan Anderson
> -Original Message- > From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@execonn.com] > Sent: Thursday, 2 August 2001 04:10 > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: CS>Where to find 50 ppm.. > Frank, > > I think most of us have reached the conclusion that colloidal > silver is more effective

CS>encephalitis, west nile

2001-08-01 Thread Janet Lubart
Dear Friends, In my area of the country, there are warnings out about mosquito related diseases. My question is if my child developed a high fever, would the protocol of large amount of CS prevent the virus from getting to the brain in time. OR I am wondereing if I should give them large amounts

RE: CS Scores for ME !

2001-08-01 Thread Ed Kasper
Wayne are you saying that you hook up your phone line ed -Original Message- > Wayne -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silv

RE: CS>ionic silver

2001-08-01 Thread Ed Kasper
I've heard that DMSO easily passes through the skin barrier. One problem, however, may be that it may carry unfriendly critters along with it. So wouldn't it be necessary to first spray with full strength C-S allowing time for that to work prior to spraying with the C-S / DMSO combination. Ed Kasp

CS>RE: Battery Charger

2001-08-01 Thread Ed Kasper
the other day my car battery died and while I added distilled water and hooked up the battery charger I wondered why couldn't that work for C-S Ed Kasper L.Ac., Acupuncturist & Medicinal Herbalist Santa Cruz, California & www.happyherbalist.com e-mail e...@happyherbalist.com -- The silver-list i

Re: CS>Water Question

2001-08-01 Thread Tom Bassett
Distilled is best. Two simple, primary rules for good CS: A. 99.9 % pure silver, minimum. B. Distilled water (and cleanliness) (Is that three rules..??) Tom Bassett - Original Message - From: kukurippa _ To: Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 11:10 PM Subject: CS>Water

CS>Water Question

2001-08-01 Thread kukurippa _
Hi, I haven't yet tried "brewing" any CS yet, but I noticed some water at the pharmacy yesterday that is called Demineralized and Ozonized (is that a word? lol), containing less than 10ppm minerals. It also stated on the label that it could be used where distilled water is called for. Now, I

cs & h2o2

2001-08-01 Thread Terry Chamberlin
Someone asked the question, how much of what strength h2o2 in one quart or gallon of CS will make/keep it ionic and clear? Did anyone answer that? ___ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca -- The silver-list is

Re: CS>Where to find 50 ppm......

2001-08-01 Thread Frank Key
Stephen wrote: > Frank, > Stating a hypothesis as fact begs the question. > The question is:- How do you test the effectiveness? > Maybe what needs to be clarified is:- What do you mean > by effectiveness? > Stephen > >From the standpoint of the physical properties, which is what we directl

RE: CS>Where to find 50 ppm......

2001-08-01 Thread Stephen Quinto
Frank, Stating a hypothesis as fact begs the question. The question is:- How do you test the effectiveness? Maybe what needs to be clarified is:- What do you mean by effectiveness? Stephen > -Original Message- > From: Frank Key [mailto:fr...@strsoft.com] > Sent: Wednesday, August 01,

Re: CS>Where to find 50 ppm......

2001-08-01 Thread Frank Key
Stephen wrote: > Frank, > Your post below is somewhat disingenuous, since this Mesosilver is > now a commercial product made by you. What's more I quote here a > comment from the website for Mesosilver, which has your address and > telephone number:- "The lab is equipped to perform measurements

RE: CS>Where to find 50 ppm......

2001-08-01 Thread Stephen Quinto
Frank, Your post below is somewhat disingenuous, since this Mesosilver is now a commercial product made by you. What's more I quote here a comment from the website for Mesosilver, which has your address and telephone number:- "The lab is equipped to perform measurements of all the physical prop

CS>Lynda DMSO

2001-08-01 Thread svr999a
At a local feed store. It is used for treating the aches and pains of horses and cattle. Steve > ** Original Subject: Re: CS>ionic silver > ** Original Sender: "Lynda Khula" > ** Original Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 19:15:01 + > ** Original Message follows... > > where does one get the DMSO

Re: CS>ionic silver

2001-08-01 Thread M. G. Devour
Lynda wrote: > thanks for the info,,, do you have something that he can do that will > help the cs last two times he had it the cs worked great but this time > he just keeps breaking out I checked in the archives and noticed a discussion of using bentonite clay poultices to draw the poison out of

Re: CS>ionic silver

2001-08-01 Thread Nina Silver
- Original Message - From: Lynda Khula To: Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 2:45 PM Subject: Re: CS>ionic silver > where does one get the DMSO husband has poison ivy real bad and the cs is > not stopping new outbreaks of it would like to try that. Lynda There is also a homeopath

Re: CS>ionic silver

2001-08-01 Thread Lynda Khula
thanks for the info,,, do you have something that he can do that will help the cs last two times he had it the cs worked great but this time he just keeps breaking out Lynda - Original Message - From: "Marshall Dudley" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 3:39 PM Subject: Re: CS>ion

CS Scores for ME !

2001-08-01 Thread Wayne Fugitt
This all happened this week. Monday I made only 3 service calls. One was a house call in a mobile home. I spent about 2.5 hours in this location. There was a sick person there that had been sick for 11 days. Generally, I don't worry about being in the vicinity of infected people. Later th

Re: CS>ionic silver

2001-08-01 Thread Marshall Dudley
I would not advise that. Poison ivy is caused by an oil from the plant that ends up on the skin. DMSO will take it directly into the inside of the body with possibly severe results. Marshall Lynda Khula wrote: > where does one get the DMSO husband has poison ivy real bad and the cs is > not st

Re: CS>ionic silver

2001-08-01 Thread Lynda Khula
where does one get the DMSO husband has poison ivy real bad and the cs is not stopping new outbreaks of it would like to try that. Lynda riginal Message - From: "Robert L. Berger" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 1:50 PM Subject: Re: CS>ionic silver > Hi Ya'all; > > I have foun

Re: CS>Where to find 50 ppm......

2001-08-01 Thread Frank Key
Marshall wrote: > If someone is capable of getting me samples of CS that have different sized > particles, which fall in a fairly narrow range, I can make complete > spectrographs from infrared to uv of the absorption. I only need a few ml of > each to make the tests. > > Frank? That is easi

Re: CS>Where to find 50 ppm......

2001-08-01 Thread Marshall Dudley
If someone is capable of getting me samples of CS that have different sized particles, which fall in a fairly narrow range, I can make complete spectrographs from infrared to uv of the absorption. I only need a few ml of each to make the tests. Frank? Marshall Ode Coyote wrote: > That's not

Re: CS>Where to find 50 ppm......

2001-08-01 Thread Marshall Dudley
I might say that color vs particles size is difficult to qualify. It is a fact that a spherical particles of silver will absorb a fairly narrow band of light, whereas the wavelength of the light increases as the particle size increases. Also it can be said that when the particle size is suffic

Re: CS>Where to find 50 ppm......

2001-08-01 Thread Marshall Dudley
Ode Coyote wrote: > > Perhaps some HVAC process can make a colorless CS at beyond 30 PPM Perhaps, but I have been unable to do it. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: sil

Re: CS>ionic silver

2001-08-01 Thread Robert L. Berger
Hi Ya'all; I have found that Brook's method of 20% DMSO and 80% ionic silver does a great job of penetrating both layers of the skin. That puts the CS where you want it, ina both layers and inside. My dog, a Great Pyrenees, had some red spots on her stomach about a 1/2" dia. I sprayed it with str

Re: CS>Where to find 50 ppm......

2001-08-01 Thread Robert L. Berger
Ken; I have the data sheets and theTEM for CS made with 380 v dc. the CS is colorless just like water but the TEM from Texas show particle size ranging form 18 nm to about 86 nm. Somuch for particle size and color. If you want a pix of it I will send to individuals as it exceeds Mike's bandwidt

Re: CS>ionic silver

2001-08-01 Thread Marshall Dudley
I have gone over the site, but can find nothing that addresses this question. Can you be a little more specific as to which link the information is at? Marshall SILVER wrote: > everyone should visit silverlon.com for answers to this question. > > gregg silver > - Original Message - > Fro

Re: CS>ionic silver

2001-08-01 Thread Frank Key
gregg silver wrote: > everyone should visit silverlon.com for answers to this question. > > gregg silver What exactly are we trying to learn from this site? What questions does it provide answers for? frank key -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To j

Re: CS>Where to find 50 ppm......

2001-08-01 Thread Frank Key
Ode Coyote wrote: > ### Color is determined by particle size Since your statement is so emphatic, I would ask the following: 1. What color would one expect to see from a particle size of 1.4 nm? 2. Is it possible to have two different colloids with the same particle size but dist

Re: CS>Where to find 50 ppm......

2001-08-01 Thread Robert L. Berger
Nina; H2O2 attacks only the metallic silver particles, not the ionic silver. The T.E. beam that you see when the laser pointer is shown thru the CS is caused by "particles" and not ions as they are in solution. A true ionic solution has no TE. My HVAC ARC CO2 Cs has almost no T.E. even in a black

Re: CS>Where to find 50 ppm......

2001-08-01 Thread Ted Windsor
3 to 5 ppm is good, anything over 20 ppm is a total waste, for those of you who have been led to believe that more is better it's not. Ted Ode Coyote wrote: > "Colloidal Silver by Innovative Natural Products® is produced with Advanced > Liquid Technology™, using a true Electro-Colloidal Process.

CS>ionic silver

2001-08-01 Thread SILVER
everyone should visit silverlon.com for answers to this question. gregg silver - Original Message - From: Frank Key To: Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 11:43 AM Subject: Re: CS>Where to find 50 ppm.. > Marshall wrote: > > > > I think most of us have reached the conclusion that col

Re: CS>Where to find 50 ppm......

2001-08-01 Thread Ode Coyote
At 11:33 AM 8/1/01 -0400, you wrote: >Someone wrote: > >> >"The color of the sol has to do with the particle size, not the >> concentration. > >This is NOT true. Color is determined by particle size, concentration and >dispersion. ### Color is determined by particle size >Concentratio

RE: CS>Where to find 50 ppm......

2001-08-01 Thread Ode Coyote
That's not the element of doubt although the accuracy of TEMs and what they actually see has been disputed on this list. The question is how does one maintain the same small sized particle inherent in a colorless CS while darkening the color of the CS as it gets stronger? Does color have anything

Re: CS>Where to find 50 ppm......

2001-08-01 Thread Frank Key
NS wrote: > > Ionic silver is already dissolved silver. H2O2 does ionized silver > > particles and thus convert them into ionic (dissolved) silver. > > > Huh? Would you please reword that last sentence? > > Thanks. > NS H202 will ionize metallic silver particles. Such ionization will convert

Re: CS>Where to find 50 ppm......

2001-08-01 Thread Nina Silver
- Original Message - From: Frank Key To: Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 11:33 AM Subject: Re: CS>Where to find 50 ppm.. > > However, I don't understand where H2O2 fits into all this. Does it dissolve > > the ionic silver? And what's the chemical reaction in the dissolving > > proc

Re: CS>Where to find 50 ppm......

2001-08-01 Thread Frank Key
Stephen wrote: > Frank, > we invested in the samples ourselves, out of intellectual curiosity. > Stephen > I have purchased many of the samples reported the Commercial Product Reports. I am offering to do the lab work and generate the report for samples provided by others who have an interest

Re: CS>Where to find 50 ppm......

2001-08-01 Thread Frank Key
Marshall wrote: > I think most of us have reached the conclusion that colloidal silver is more > effective than ionic silver for killing pathogens. But > I wonder about topical application. CS would I believe deposit on the skin > without any penetration. But silver ions should be able > to

RE: CS>Where to find 50 ppm......

2001-08-01 Thread Stephen Quinto
Frank, we invested in the samples ourselves, out of intellectual curiosity. Stephen > -Original Message- > From: Frank Key [mailto:fr...@strsoft.com] > Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 11:20 AM > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: CS>Where to find 50 ppm.. > > > It was written:

Re: CS>Where to find 50 ppm......

2001-08-01 Thread Marshall Dudley
Frank Key wrote: > > Ionic silver is already dissolved silver. H2O2 does ionized silver particles > and thus convert them into ionic (dissolved) silver. > > frank key Frank, I think most of us have reached the conclusion that colloidal silver is more effective than ionic silver for killing pat

CS>List owner welcome and comments...

2001-08-01 Thread M. G. Devour
Greetings Silver List participants! I've been watching quietly as our population has grown over the last couple of weeks. We're closing in on 350 members again, which is getting near our high water mark... Apparently our list has been recommended to folks on some of the alternative health lists f

CS>re: Re: CS>Where to find 50 ppm......

2001-08-01 Thread svr999a
Hello Frank, How much H2O2 per quart do you suggest? Thanks, Steve > ** Original Subject: Re: CS>Where to find 50 ppm.. > ** Original Sender: Frank Key > ** Original Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 15:36:32 + > ** Original Message follows... > > Someone wrote: > > > >"The color of the sol h

Re: CS>Where to find 50 ppm......

2001-08-01 Thread Frank Key
Someone wrote: > >"The color of the sol has to do with the particle size, not the > concentration. This is NOT true. Color is determined by particle size, concentration and dispersion. > But, as the >concentration increases, generally so does the particle size, > hue and depth of color."' The

Re: CS>Where to find 50 ppm......

2001-08-01 Thread Frank Key
It was written: > "Colloidal Silver by Innovative Natural Products® is produced with > Advanced Liquid Technology™, using a true Electro-Colloidal Process. > It contains silver particles so small that they measure only .001 microns in > size. The tiny size of the particles combined with the pr

RE: CS>Where to find 50 ppm......

2001-08-01 Thread Stephen Quinto
If you wish to see what this product looks like by TEM (electron microscopy) you'll find it as Product Z on the "Images of Silver" page on our website -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:coy...@alltel.net] Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 9:18 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.c

Re: CS>Where to find 50 ppm......

2001-08-01 Thread Nina Silver
- Original Message - From: Ode Coyote To: Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 9:17 AM Subject: Re: CS>Where to find 50 ppm.. >"The color of the sol has to do with the particle size, not the concentration. But, as the >concentration increases, generally so does the particle size, hue a

Re: CS>Where to find 50 ppm......

2001-08-01 Thread Ode Coyote
"Colloidal Silver by Innovative Natural Products® is produced with Advanced Liquid Technology™, using a true Electro-Colloidal Process. It contains silver particles so small that they measure only .001 microns in size. The tiny size of the particles combined with the proper electrical charge ma

Re: CS filtered through carbon, cotton or resin bed?

2001-08-01 Thread Ode Coyote
I've had no problem with ash free lab grade filter paper, little problem with unbleached paper coffee filters, paper towels. Bleached paper products rarely cause a problem. The rare problems may or may not be associated with the filter medium. The filters all do turn brown after drying. This ha