RE: CS an PH concerns

1999-11-13 Thread Steve King
a...@trail.com -Original Message- From: Steve King [SMTP:ssk...@nildram.co.uk] Sent: Friday, November 12, 1999 6:21 AM To:silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CS an PH concerns It is rumored that some practitioners of traditional psychedelic sacraments have been know to boil peyote

Re: CS an PH concerns

1999-11-12 Thread Ivan Anderson
Steve - I'm not trying to say that CS doesn't work when taken orally! I'm just trying to understand how CS ingestion can be optimised given that the stomach is basically an acid bath for food. Fruit goes through the stomach very fast but things like milk and meat and fats can stay in the

Re: CS an PH concerns

1999-11-12 Thread Ivan Anderson
Marshall Dudley wrote: Do not confuse the issue that CS does not easily react with acids with the issue that acids can cause aggregation of the silver particles. These are two entirely two entirely different issues. True enough. There are many ways that the stability of a colloidal

RE: CS an PH concerns

1999-11-12 Thread Steve King
It is rumored that some practitioners of traditional psychedelic sacraments have been know to boil peyote down to a thin black syrup and administer it as an enema to avoid nausea while absorbing the desired active ingredients. I'm thinking peyote -and- CS via the backdoor might really do

Re: CS an PH concerns

1999-11-12 Thread Steve King
What I think you are seeing is the chemical precipitation of silver ascorbate rather than an aggregation or flocculation of silver ions. very ,very interesting observation. as I am not a chemist, the implications are vague for me, but I think I see the difference . thanx Steve King -- The

RE: CS an PH concerns

1999-11-12 Thread Steve King
I was the one who many times did high colonics using a full quart of homebrewed CS in the colonic water. Never noticed a thing. Didn't feel any different in any way. Not even a little bit. And I have every evidence of leaky gut syndrome. Well buff my belt buckle and blow my mind! I never would

RE: CS an PH concerns

1999-11-12 Thread Sharon L. House
I should have thought to mention the issue of probiotics. I do the colonics in between periods of taking HSOs which seem to repopulate the colon very nicely. They also eat away and loosen things up that need to be gotten out of there. The main thing with me is to kill off as much of the baddies

RE: CS an PH concerns

1999-11-12 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
Thanks for the out-loud-laugh Steve! James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com -Original Message- From: Steve King [SMTP:ssk...@nildram.co.uk] Sent: Friday, November 12, 1999 6:21 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:RE: CS an PH concerns It is rumored that some

RE: CS an PH concerns

1999-11-12 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:RE: CS an PH concerns I was the one who many times did high colonics using a full quart of homebrewed CS in the colonic water. Never noticed a thing. Didn't feel any different in any way. Not even a little bit. And I have every evidence of leaky gut syndrome. Well

Re: CS an PH concerns

1999-11-11 Thread Ivan Anderson
Hold on a minute folks, As Bill says, a reaction with ascorbic acid says nothing about CS stability with acidic solutions in general. Didn't someone say recently they were having trouble getting a reaction with CS and strong Nitric acid? The stomach actually contains little hydrochloric acid

Re: CS an PH concerns

1999-11-11 Thread Steve King
Ivan- > >As Bill says, a reaction with ascorbic acid says nothing about CS >stability with acidic solutions in general. Didn't someone say >recently they were having trouble getting a reaction with CS and >strong Nitric acid? > >The stomach actually contains little hydrochloric acid between meals

Re: CS an PH concerns

1999-11-11 Thread Gdwny
I have been watching this concern unfold on the list with the concern to silver's reaction with acids. I have taken colloidal silver by the dropper full directly in the mouth and holding it there. Much as homeopathic medicines are taken for absorption through the mucus membranes. I have also

Re: CS an PH concerns

1999-11-11 Thread Marshall Dudley
Ivan Anderson wrote: Hold on a minute folks, As Bill says, a reaction with ascorbic acid says nothing about CS stability with acidic solutions in general. Didn't someone say recently they were having trouble getting a reaction with CS and strong Nitric acid? The stomach actually contains

Re: CS an PH concerns

1999-11-11 Thread Steve King
At 08:33 AM 11/11/99 EST, you wrote: I have been watching this concern unfold on the list with the concern to silver's reaction with acids. I have taken colloidal silver by the dropper full directly in the mouth and holding it there. Much as homeopathic medicines are taken for absorption

Re: CS an PH concerns

1999-11-11 Thread Marshall Dudley
Bill Schramm wrote: ?fontfamily?param Courier New?biggerYou can repeat your experiments with hydrochloric acid. It is available in paint and hardware stores in industrial grade where it is called Muriatic Acid and is used to remove lime and scale (it also does a good job of removing your

Re: CS an PH concerns

1999-11-11 Thread Bill Schramm
: Thursday, November 11, 1999 5:14 AM Subject: Re: CS an PH concerns Ivan- As Bill says, a reaction with ascorbic acid says nothing about CS stability with acidic solutions in general. Didn't someone say recently they were having trouble getting a reaction

Re: CS an PH concerns

1999-11-11 Thread Bill Schramm
not a biologist) if stomach acid were pH 2, you should dilute the muriatic acid 500 to 1. -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Thursday, November 11, 1999 12:55 PM Subject: Re: CS an PH concerns

Re: CS an PH concerns

1999-11-11 Thread Marshall Dudley
Bill Schramm wrote: I am sorry, that is not correct. Check your math. Negative numbers do not have logarithms, but logarithms THEMSELVES can be negative, and in fact are negative for any (positive) number between 0 and 1. The log of 0.1 is minus 1, the log of 0.01 is minus 2, etc. The pH

RE: CS an PH concerns

1999-11-11 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
active ingredients. I wonder what the ritual aspects were like...? James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com -Original Message- From: Steve King [SMTP:ssk...@nildram.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 10:14 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: CS an PH concerns At 08

RE: CS an PH concerns

1999-11-11 Thread Sharon L. House
Always got to be someone to come along and kick a reasonable sounding theory in the tail. Might as well be me this time! I was the one who many times did high colonics using a full quart of homebrewed CS in the colonic water. Never noticed a thing. Didn't feel any different in any way. Not even a

Re: CS an PH concerns

1999-11-11 Thread Bill Schramm
, 1999 2:15 PM Subject: Re: CS an PH concerns Bill Schramm wrote: I am sorry, that is not correct. Check your math. Negative numbers do not have logarithms, but logarithms THEMSELVES can be negative, and in fact are negative for any (positive) number between 0 and 1

Re: CS an PH concerns

1999-11-10 Thread Bill Schramm
by all means continue your experiment, but you can't ascribe your observations as caused by pH because it isn't the only variable. Perhaps you are forming silver ascorbate which is insoluble?? -Original Message- From: Steve King ssk...@nildram.co.uk To: silver-list@eskimo.com

Re: CS an PH concerns

1999-11-10 Thread Marshall Dudley
As I have reported here several times before, acid will hurt the stability of CS. That is why I use baking soda to increase the ph of CS/aloe vera to 7. Anyway, my experience has been that the stability is reduced so that a CS which is normally stable indefinitely will aggregate and drop out in

Re: CS an PH concerns

1999-11-10 Thread Steve King
Marshall- Anyway, I have often recommended putting CS into a glass of water before drinking for this reason. This will both reduce the acidity of the stomach and dilute the CS, both reducing aggregation. I believe that dilution, either with a glass of water, or from the liquid normally in the

Re: CS an PH concerns

1999-11-10 Thread Marshall Dudley
I see no problem with any interaction between the BS and CS, but know that it is not recommended to take anti-acids (Which BS is) every day over the long term due to the body manufacturing excessive acid to counteract. I would be more concerned with messing up my digestive system. The amount you

Re: CS an PH concerns

1999-11-10 Thread Steve King
At 03:34 PM 11/10/99 -0500, you wrote: I see no problem with any interaction between the BS and CS, but know that it is not recommended to take anti-acids (Which BS is) every day over the long term due to the body manufacturing excessive acid to counteract. I would be more concerned with messing