Re: [singularity] ESSAY: Why care about artificial intelligence?

2007-07-14 Thread Alan Grimes
> It isn't obvious to me that whining about very mundane computer issues > will get us to a vastly improved computational environment. If that is > your goal I believe a much more constructive approach is needed.But > no one is talking about bare-metal or using today's strandard computer > ar

Re: [singularity] ESSAY: Why care about artificial intelligence?

2007-07-14 Thread Alan Grimes
Mike Tintner wrote: > AG: My contention is that the computer systems we have now are > unacceptable, > and that all visible trends strongly indicate that they are getting > _WORSE_ at a breakneck speed. How could this not be the greatest concern > of the list? > The main flaws of current computer

Re: [singularity] ESSAY: Why care about artificial intelligence?

2007-07-14 Thread Jey Kottalam
On 7/13/07, Alan Grimes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If I ever meet you in real life, I'll kill you on the spot with my bear hands! You have bear hands? Fucking awesome! I just typed "xterm manpage" into google after you posted your message about setting the XTerm color manually. It said that

Re: [singularity] ESSAY: Why care about artificial intelligence?

2007-07-14 Thread samantha
Alan Grimes wrote: Or are you a plant to poison this list like so many others you have deservedly been kicked off of? I can't imagine who would send someone as incompitent as myself for such a task. As you pointed out I frequently get banned from these lists, most often for denouncing Frie

Re: Symbol grounding (was [singularity] ESSAY: Why care about artificial intelligence?)

2007-07-14 Thread Cenny Wenner
I agree on these complications and had them in mind in my previous posts, they are certainly not mysterious and I do not see any larger leaps in my arguments. I would not claim fundamental levels as you do here and collected them in what i meant by interpretation [which encompasses every possible

Re: [singularity] ESSAY: Why care about artificial intelligence?

2007-07-14 Thread Cenny Wenner
On 7/12/07, Mike Tintner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: CW: A problem is that I do not quite grasp the concept of "general conceptual goals". Yes, this is interesting, because I suddenly wondered whether any AI systems currently can be said to have goals in the true sense. Even though I said this

Re: [singularity] ESSAY: Why care about artificial intelligence?

2007-07-14 Thread Mike Tintner
AG: My contention is that the computer systems we have now are unacceptable, and that all visible trends strongly indicate that they are getting _WORSE_ at a breakneck speed. How could this not be the greatest concern of the list? The main flaws of current computer systems are ? - This l

Re: [singularity] ESSAY: Why care about artificial intelligence?

2007-07-14 Thread Alan Grimes
> Or are you a plant to poison this list like so many others you have > deservedly been kicked off of? I can't imagine who would send someone as incompitent as myself for such a task. As you pointed out I frequently get banned from these lists, most often for denouncing Friendly AI and RYUC. Surel

[singularity] Is the world a friendly or unfriendly AI?

2007-07-14 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
Despite the fact that it seems to lack a single unified consciousness the world of humans and their devices behaves as if it is both vastly more intelligent and vastly more powerful than any unassisted individual human. If you could build a machine that ran a planet all by itself just as well as 6

Re: [singularity] ESSAY: Why care about artificial intelligence?

2007-07-14 Thread Samantha Atkins
Alan Grimes wrote: If it's a problem may I suggest you use a more user friendly terminal such as gnome-terminal or konsole. They have profiles that can be edited through the GUI. Not a bad suggestion, lemme see if my distro will let me kill Xterm... crap, it's depended on by xinit, which i