Re: [singularity] AI critique by Jaron Lanier

2008-02-15 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
On 16/02/2008, John Ku <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In order to really fix this example, it seems he would have to posit > asteroids whose gravitational effects on each other are genuinely isomorphic > to all the causal interactions the physical particles making up our brain > have on each othe

Re: [singularity] AI critique by Jaron Lanier

2008-02-15 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
On 16/02/2008, Kaj Sotala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > However, despite what is claimed, not every physical process can be > interpreted to do any computation. To do such an interpretation, you > have to do so after the fact: after all the raindrops have fallen, you > can assign their positions fo

Re: [singularity] AI critique by Jaron Lanier

2008-02-15 Thread John Ku
On 2/15/08, Eric B. Ramsay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I don't know when Lanier wrote the following but I would be interested to > know what the AI folks here think about his critique (or direct me to a > thread where this was already discussed). Also would someone be able to > re-state his rain

Re: [singularity] AI critique by Jaron Lanier

2008-02-15 Thread Matt Mahoney
--- "Eric B. Ramsay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't know when Lanier wrote the following but I would be interested to > know what the AI folks here think about his critique (or direct me to a > thread where this was already discussed). Also would someone be able to > re-state his rainstorm

Re: [singularity] AI critique by Jaron Lanier

2008-02-15 Thread Kaj Sotala
On 2/16/08, Eric B. Ramsay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't know when Lanier wrote the following but I would be interested to > know what the AI folks here think about his critique (or direct me to a > thread where this was already discussed). Also would someone be able to > re-state his rai

[singularity] AI critique by Jaron Lanier

2008-02-15 Thread Eric B. Ramsay
I don't know when Lanier wrote the following but I would be interested to know what the AI folks here think about his critique (or direct me to a thread where this was already discussed). Also would someone be able to re-state his rainstorm thought experiment more clearly -- I am not sure I get