Re: [singularity] Vista/AGI

2008-04-06 Thread J. Andrew Rogers
thers in the field (discounting cranks). For better or worse, you need to be a J. Hawkins or similar. Such is the world we live in. Cheers, J. Andrew Rogers --- singularity Archives: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/11983/=now RSS

Re: [singularity] Vista/AGI

2008-04-06 Thread J. Andrew Rogers
specifically, how to science is going to inform this process given the existing body of theoretical work, I would have no problem with the notion. My objections were pragmatic. Cheers, J. Andrew Rogers --- singularity Archives: http://www.listbo

Re: [singularity] Vista/AGI

2008-04-06 Thread J. Andrew Rogers
On Apr 6, 2008, at 4:46 PM, Richard Loosemore wrote: J. Andrew Rogers wrote: The fact that the vast majority of AGI theory is pulled out of /dev/ ass notwithstanding, your above characterization would appear to reflect your limitations which you have chosen to project onto the broader

Re: [singularity] Vista/AGI

2008-04-06 Thread J. Andrew Rogers
k like an attempt to dress a doughnut up as a wedding cake. Sure, but what does this have to do with the topic at hand? The problem is that investors lack any ability to discern a doughnut from a wedding cake. J. Andrew Rogers --- singularity Arch

Re: [singularity] Vista/AGI

2008-04-06 Thread J. Andrew Rogers
not answer these basic questions in a satisfactory manner, which may or may not reflect what they "know". J. Andrew Rogers --- singularity Archives: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/11983/=now RSS Feed: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/

Re: [singularity] Vista/AGI

2008-04-06 Thread J. Andrew Rogers
that comports with reality. Over the years I have slowly come to believe that the long track record of failure in AI is a minor contributor to the relative dearth of funding for bold AI ventures -- the problem has never been a lack of people willing to take a risk per se. J. Andrew R

Re: [singularity] Vista/AGI

2008-04-06 Thread J. Andrew Rogers
"obvious" when no concrete example exists. Successfully doing this is far, far more difficult than I suspect most people who have not tried believe. J. Andrew Rogers --- singularity Archives: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/11983/=now RS

Re: [singularity] Vista/AGI

2008-04-06 Thread J. Andrew Rogers
ement leads me to believe you have little experience with funding speculative technology ventures of the scale being discussed here. The dynamic is considerably, and rightly, more complicated than this. A truly compelling concept and a dollar will buy you a cup

Re: [singularity] Vista/AGI

2008-03-16 Thread J. Andrew Rogers
some sort that is separate from the actual core capabilities. J. Andrew Rogers --- singularity Archives: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/11983/=now RSS Feed: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/11983/ Modify Your Subscription: http://ww

Re: [singularity] Vista/AGI

2008-03-16 Thread J. Andrew Rogers
ndividuals, and most have traditionally been written by small teams. J. Andrew Rogers --- singularity Archives: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/11983/=now RSS Feed: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/11983/ Modify Your Subscription: http://

Re: [singularity] MindForth achieves True AI functionality

2008-02-02 Thread J. Andrew Rogers
On Feb 2, 2008, at 12:49 PM, Eric B. Ramsay wrote: I noticed that the members of the list have completely ignored this pronouncement by A.T. Murray. Is there a reason for this (for example is this person considered fringe or worse)? Bingo. J. Andrew Rogers - This list is sponsored

Re: [singularity] ESSAY: Why care about artificial intelligence?

2007-07-23 Thread J. Andrew Rogers
pattern for you. If you ever get the feeling people ignore you, this might have something to do with it. Google first, post later. J. Andrew Rogers - This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com

Re: [singularity] Convincing non-techie skeptics that the Singularity isn't total bunk

2006-10-24 Thread J. Andrew Rogers
On Oct 23, 2006, at 7:00 PM, Anna Taylor wrote: On 10/23/06, J. Andrew Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So you could say that the economics of responding to the mere threat of war is adequate to drive all the research the military does. Yes I agree but why is the threat of war alwa

Re: [singularity] Convincing non-techie skeptics that the Singularity isn't total bunk

2006-10-24 Thread J. Andrew Rogers
On Oct 23, 2006, at 6:43 PM, Gregory Johnson wrote: I most certainly am not a proponent of the military industrial complex as opposed to the Japanese and German business models , but it is my sense that that is not where the world is headed at the moment. Huh? J. Andrew Rogers

Re: [singularity] Convincing non-techie skeptics that the Singularity isn't total bunk

2006-10-23 Thread J. Andrew Rogers
here will always be plenty of reason to do the R&D without ever firing a shot. While I am doubtful that the military R&D programs will directly yield AGI, they do fund a lot of interesting blue sky research. J. Andrew Rogers - This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agir