[Sip-implementors] Forcing Clients/Phone to re REGISTER prior to "Expires" timeout

2008-05-08 Thread Amit P. Ahuja
Hello List Members,     Using only methods described in RFC3261 is there any way for a Sip Server to force a Client to re-REGISTER prior to the timeout period set during the REGISTER-200 OK transaction? I did see RFC3580 describing a procedure to Forcing Re-Authentication however I wanted to enq

Re: [Sip-implementors] Query: Regarding SDP offer/answer: Can UAS sends multiple answers for same offer

2008-05-08 Thread NC Reddy
Hi, In this problem context, i found another issue, how routing b2bua proxy will decide when to suppress offer/answer message(s) to other hop. What's the condition for the AS (application server) to know offer/answer is done between A and B UserA <--->AS(B2BUA)<>UserB Where AS is pure

Re: [Sip-implementors] Query: Regarding SDP offer/answer: Can UAS sends multiple answers for same offer

2008-05-08 Thread Iñaki Baz Castillo
El Thursday 08 May 2008 17:28:17 Paul Kyzivat escribió: > It is valid as long as different to-tags are used. > > But often people try to do this exact same scenario, but send the > responses, with changed SDP, using the *same* to-tag. That is wrong. Nice to know. > This is all explained in the o

Re: [Sip-implementors] Query: Regarding SDP offer/answer: Can UAS sends multiple answers for same offer

2008-05-08 Thread Paul Kyzivat
Iñaki Baz Castillo wrote: > El Thursday 08 May 2008 16:53:32 Paul Kyzivat escribió: > >> The offeranswer draft explains. THere can be only one answer per offer >> per dialog. Sometimes the same answer is send in multiple messages, but >> technically only one of them is the actual answer. > > Bu

Re: [Sip-implementors] Regarding CANCEL behaviour

2008-05-08 Thread Brett Tate
Additionally incase "immediately" did not mean "immediately after receiving a provisional response"... RFC3261 section 9.1: "If no provisional response has been received, the CANCEL request MUST NOT be sent; rather, the client MUST wait for the arrival of a provisional response before sending the

Re: [Sip-implementors] Query: Regarding SDP offer/answer: Can UAS sends multiple answers for same offer

2008-05-08 Thread Iñaki Baz Castillo
El Thursday 08 May 2008 16:53:32 Paul Kyzivat escribió: > The offeranswer draft explains. THere can be only one answer per offer > per dialog. Sometimes the same answer is send in multiple messages, but > technically only one of them is the actual answer. But note that UAC just receives one final

Re: [Sip-implementors] Regarding CANCEL behaviour

2008-05-08 Thread Paul Kyzivat
Srinivas wrote: > Hi All, > I have a query on the behaviour of a UAS when it receives CANCEL. > We are using an UAS which says, they don't support the CANCEL method. First > of all, is it ok if the UAS doesn't support CANCEL? > > The problem is, when I send an Invite to the UAS and a CANCEL

Re: [Sip-implementors] Query: Regarding SDP offer/answer: Can UAS sends multiple answers for same offer

2008-05-08 Thread Paul Kyzivat
Iñaki Baz Castillo wrote: > El Thursday 08 May 2008 16:20:29 Paul Kyzivat escribió: >> Iñaki Baz Castillo wrote: >>> El Thursday 08 May 2008 15:45:53 NC Reddy escribió: Hi, I have the following question: - Can UAS sends multiple answers for same offer:

Re: [Sip-implementors] Query: Regarding SDP offer/answer: Can UAS sends multiple answers for same offer

2008-05-08 Thread Iñaki Baz Castillo
El Thursday 08 May 2008 16:20:29 Paul Kyzivat escribió: > Iñaki Baz Castillo wrote: > > El Thursday 08 May 2008 15:45:53 NC Reddy escribió: > >> Hi, > >>I have the following question: > >> > >> > >>- Can UAS sends multiple answers for same offer: > >>- i.e 183 (Answer-1) > >>-

[Sip-implementors] Regarding CANCEL behaviour

2008-05-08 Thread Srinivas
Hi All, I have a query on the behaviour of a UAS when it receives CANCEL. We are using an UAS which says, they don't support the CANCEL method. First of all, is it ok if the UAS doesn't support CANCEL? The problem is, when I send an Invite to the UAS and a CANCEL immediately, I expect a 487 f

Re: [Sip-implementors] Query: Regarding SDP offer/answer: Can UAS sends multiple answers for same offer

2008-05-08 Thread Iñaki Baz Castillo
El Thursday 08 May 2008 16:11:46 NC Reddy escribió: > Hi, > The context for the question is: > Can UAS sends multiple Answers on the "same" single dialog with UAC. But why does need UAS send multiple answers? it could send multiples provisional responses but not multiple final responses.

Re: [Sip-implementors] Query: Regarding SDP offer/answer: Can UAS sends multiple answers for same offer

2008-05-08 Thread Paul Kyzivat
Iñaki Baz Castillo wrote: > El Thursday 08 May 2008 15:45:53 NC Reddy escribió: >> Hi, >>I have the following question: >> >> >>- Can UAS sends multiple answers for same offer: >>- i.e 183 (Answer-1) >>- 180(Answer-2) >>- 200 Ok(Answer-2) >> >> Does the above UAS behavio

Re: [Sip-implementors] Query: Regarding SDP offer/answer: Can UAS sends multiple answers for same offer

2008-05-08 Thread Paul Kyzivat
see http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-sipping-sip-offeranswer-08.txt NC Reddy wrote: > Hi, >I have the following question: > > >- Can UAS sends multiple answers for same offer: >- i.e 183 (Answer-1) >- 180(Answer-2) >- 200 Ok(Answer-2) > > Does the above

Re: [Sip-implementors] Query: Regarding SDP offer/answer: Can UAS sends multiple answers for same offer

2008-05-08 Thread NC Reddy
Hi, The context for the question is: Can UAS sends multiple Answers on the "same" single dialog with UAC. Scenario: User A make call along with Feature code, AS contact with Announcement server and play the IVR to User A, then AS connects the call to UserB. So when AS receives the UserB An

Re: [Sip-implementors] Query: Regarding SDP offer/answer: Can UAS sends multiple answers for same offer

2008-05-08 Thread Iñaki Baz Castillo
El Thursday 08 May 2008 15:45:53 NC Reddy escribió: > Hi, >I have the following question: > > >- Can UAS sends multiple answers for same offer: >- i.e 183 (Answer-1) >- 180(Answer-2) >- 200 Ok(Answer-2) > > Does the above UAS behavior is valid?. Sure, even if 183 and 180

[Sip-implementors] Query: Regarding SDP offer/answer: Can UAS sends multiple answers for same offer

2008-05-08 Thread NC Reddy
Hi, I have the following question: - Can UAS sends multiple answers for same offer: - i.e 183 (Answer-1) - 180(Answer-2) - 200 Ok(Answer-2) Does the above UAS behavior is valid?. UseCase Scenario Context: - Make call along with feature code -UAC make call to AS (B2BUA) Use

Re: [Sip-implementors] Will header short form always consist in asingle letter?

2008-05-08 Thread Iñaki Baz Castillo
El Thursday 08 May 2008 14:02:59 Avasarala Ranjit-A20990 escribió: > The compact form is defined only for some common headers like From, To, > Via, Content-Encoding, Content-length and Content-type. Since these headers > are kind of mandatory and if message size becomes an issue, their compact > fo

Re: [Sip-implementors] Will header short form always consist in a single letter?

2008-05-08 Thread Iñaki Baz Castillo
El Thursday 08 May 2008 13:52:01 Robert Sparks escribió: > No. If any are ever defined in the future they are guaranteed to be > one letter. > > It's very unlikely that any new compact forms will ever be defined > though- the argument is that if you need that kind of optimization, > SIGCOMP does a

Re: [Sip-implementors] Will header short form always consist in asingle letter?

2008-05-08 Thread Avasarala Ranjit-A20990
The compact form is defined only for some common headers like From, To, Via, Content-Encoding, Content-length and Content-type. Since these headers are kind of mandatory and if message size becomes an issue, their compact forms could be used. But defining compact forms for all the headers does

Re: [Sip-implementors] Will header short form always consist in a single letter?

2008-05-08 Thread Robert Sparks
No. If any are ever defined in the future they are guaranteed to be one letter. It's very unlikely that any new compact forms will ever be defined though- the argument is that if you need that kind of optimization, SIGCOMP does a better job. Here's what 4485 (sip-guidelines) has to say:

Re: [Sip-implementors] 200 OK Retransmission

2008-05-08 Thread JEEVANANDHAM KARTHIC KUMAR
Hello Jitendra, I think application has to trigger BYE after the Timer H fires(ie..my answer is immediately after 31.5 sec). I can't find any RFC spec for this. Hello all, some one having good answer for this question. please welcome. Regards, Karthic -Original Message- From: Jitendra

Re: [Sip-implementors] 200 OK Retransmission

2008-05-08 Thread sanjay.dhand
Hi Jitendra We can send BYE 4 seconds after the last retransmission of 2xx response as this is the maximum time we wait for the ACK to reach. Thanks & Regards, Sanjay Dhand -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jitendra Singh Bhadoriya Sent

Re: [Sip-implementors] 200 OK Retransmission

2008-05-08 Thread Jitendra Singh Bhadoriya
Hi Karthic, I have a doubt here. The retransmission of the 2xx response In case ACK is not received will happen as below 1st 2xx - 0 2nd 2xx - 0.5 sec 3rd 2xx - 1.5 sec 4th 2xx - 3.5 sec 5th 2xx - 7.5 sec 6th 2xx - 11.5 sec 7th 2xx - 15.5 sec 8th 2xx - 19.5 sec 9th 2xx - 23.5 sec 10th 2xx - 2

[Sip-implementors] Will header short form always consist in a single letter?

2008-05-08 Thread Iñaki Baz Castillo
Hi, some headers allow short form: From = f To = t Via = v ... To detect those cases I match header names of one letter length, but will it be valid for the future? I mean: is it possible that in the future it appears a header with a short form of 2 letters? like: New-Header-Name =