[Sip-implementors] Sigcomp

2009-04-27 Thread Prince A P
Hi, Any idea about currently how many live deployments are happening for Sigcomp? Does the Importance of it really going down with high bandwidth availability? rgds, Prince ___ Sip-implementors mailing list Sip-implementors@lists.cs.columbia.edu https

Re: [Sip-implementors] billing in sip

2009-04-27 Thread Alejandro Orellana
As mentioned here SIP does not provided in itself billing related mechanism, however all the information necessary is at hand. Usually the B2BUA would gather the critical information to formulate a Call Detailed Record that is to be sent to an external machine. This is normally done via some sta

Re: [Sip-implementors] query for ACK retransmission

2009-04-27 Thread Singh, Indresh (NSN - US/Boca Raton)
IMHO, First what seems to be really strange in your description below is the amount of 200 OK transmitted within 500 milli-seconds ( 7 times ). This implies that either you hav choosen a really low value of T1 and T2 timer or you are not complying with protocol recommendation w.r.t to retransmitt

[Sip-implementors] Your favorite VoIP faults

2009-04-27 Thread Henning Schulzrinne
As part of a research project, we are working on automated diagnostics of network-related faults in VoIP systems. If you have observed errors that were hard for a lay person to diagnose, whether due to end system problems, proxy idiosyncrasies, NATs, LAN or Internet issues, please send me a

Re: [Sip-implementors] billing in sip

2009-04-27 Thread Vikram Chhibber
You may also like to see IMS 3GPP specifications on billing TS 22.115, TS 32.240, TS 32.260 to get some more idea. On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 7:56 AM, Manish Kambdur wrote: > Hi Nabam, > > No charging/billing messages are defined by the SIP protocol, which implies > that the application is respons

Re: [Sip-implementors] Query for SDP Negotiation

2009-04-27 Thread Vikram Chhibber
It is the UAS who is creating the non-standard answer, in which case, there is no way the UAC can send 4xx response. Also, I do see a common codec which are iLBC and telephone-event. The callee should have used the same dynamic payloads for these codecs as in offer, but it chose difference ones. In

Re: [Sip-implementors] billing in sip

2009-04-27 Thread Manish Kambdur
Hi Nabam, No charging/billing messages are defined by the SIP protocol, which implies that the application is responsible for the billing. That is, SIP does not specify any methods for billing, and you are 'free to choose' and implement any application specific billing solution you need. Most of

Re: [Sip-implementors] Query for SDP Negotiation

2009-04-27 Thread friend friend
Dear Folks,     Thank you for useful responses.   Please clarify one more query.   In case, Both side(caller & callee) call is established and RTP(Both side iLBC) also flowing successfully but one side audio is coming and the other side audio is not coming.   so what would be the problem(Ot

Re: [Sip-implementors] billing in sip

2009-04-27 Thread nabam serbang
Hi Iñaki Baz Castillo, Could you elaborate what does "SIP is not "designed" for billing" mean? I mean there must be some way to do billing on SIP call otherwise how service provider or vendor will get revenue. I understand that one way is by specified duration such as monthly, yearly etc. In

Re: [Sip-implementors] Query for SDP Negotiation

2009-04-27 Thread Attila Sipos
415 is often confused with 488. "415 Unsupported Media Type" is what you would use if if didn't understand the SIP message body content. 488 (which is similar to 606) would be a more suitable response: 21.4.26 488 Not Acceptable Here The response has the same meaning as 606 (Not Acceptable),

Re: [Sip-implementors] Query for SDP Negotiation

2009-04-27 Thread Shanbhag, Somesh (NSN - IN/Bangalore)
Yeah, that is even better .. .what I thought was since CALLEE had already replied not-in-protocol-way, CALLER may terminate the dialog. Somesh -Original Message- From: ext Peter Nijhuis [mailto:peter.nijh...@televersal.com] Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 7:00 PM To: Shanbhag, Somesh (NSN

Re: [Sip-implementors] Query for SDP Negotiation

2009-04-27 Thread Peter Nijhuis
I think Callee should respond with 415 unsupported media type, since it is not supporting media types 102, 0, 8 or 106. Met vriendelijke groet, with kind regards, mit freundlichen Gruß   Peter Nijhuis    > -Original Message- > From: sip-implementors-boun...@lists.cs.columbia.edu [mai

Re: [Sip-implementors] billing in sip

2009-04-27 Thread Iñaki Baz Castillo
2009/4/27 nabam serbang : > Hi, > Could some one tell me how billing is done is SIP? Any call flow example > would highly be appreciated. SIP is not "designed" for billing. Also billing is too much complex and wide to try to explain it in an unique way. Basically billing can be done in a gateway

Re: [Sip-implementors] Query for SDP Negotiation

2009-04-27 Thread Shanbhag, Somesh (NSN - IN/Bangalore)
The basic thing is CALLEE has to take the subset of codecs offered by CALLER and reply back. But in your case, CALLEE is replying with different set of codecs (97 101) in reply to CALLER codecs ( 102 0 8 106 ) IMHO, since the capabilities mis-match, immdiately end the call using BYE / CANCEL wh

Re: [Sip-implementors] [sip-implementors] C-line in SDP

2009-04-27 Thread Meir Leshem
Thanks Amith, In response to your comments: In case of FE NAT, not only the source address of the peer may be changed but also the IP address in the c-line of the SDP is meaningless, so this is a different story and different handling. However if there is a SBC or ALG in between (even in case of

Re: [Sip-implementors] [sip-implementors] C-line in SDP

2009-04-27 Thread Meir Leshem
Thanks Rastogi, but I can not accept your point - the IP address in the C-line is related to the media stream. The only question is if it must be symmetrical (especially assuming no NAT in between). Regards --- Meir Leshem Veraz Networks Tel: +972-3-9709107 Fax:

Re: [Sip-implementors] [sip-implementors] C-line in SDP

2009-04-27 Thread Rastogi, Vipul (Vipul)
Hi, I have a question regarding the IP address in the C-line of the SDP message (RFC 4566). The main purpose of the IP address in the C-line in the SDP message is to indicate to the peer to what IP address it should send its RTP packets. However, my question is related to the RTP packets rece

Re: [Sip-implementors] [sip-implementors] C-line in SDP

2009-04-27 Thread Amith Nambiar
Comments inline. - Original Message - From: Meir Leshem Hi, I have a question regarding the IP address in the C-line of the SDP message (RFC 4566). The main purpose of the IP address in the C-line in the SDP message is to indicate to the peer to what IP address it should send its RTP

[Sip-implementors] Query for SDP Negotiation

2009-04-27 Thread friend friend
Dear Folks,    I have doubt in the following scenario.   Caller's sdp :   v=0 o=- 1234 1 IN IP4 10.10.20.35 s=- c=IN IP4 10.10.20.35 t=0 0 m=audio 12000 RTP/AVP 102 0 8 106 a=rtpmap:102 iLBC/8000 a=rtpmap:0 PCMU/8000 a=rtpmap:8 PCMA/8000 a=rtpmap:106 telephone-event/8000 Callee's negotiated

[Sip-implementors] [sip-implementors] C-line in SDP

2009-04-27 Thread Meir Leshem
Hi, I have a question regarding the IP address in the C-line of the SDP message (RFC 4566). The main purpose of the IP address in the C-line in the SDP message is to indicate to the peer to what IP address it should send its RTP packets. However, my question is related to the RTP packets receive

[Sip-implementors] Query related to SUBSCRIBE Request

2009-04-27 Thread Dushyant Dhalia
In 3GPP specs, related to IMS procedure, it's written that P-CSCF sends the SUBSCRIBE request to I-CSCF which in turns finds the address of S-CSCF through Cx query. My question is why can't P-CSCF send the SUBSCRIBE directly to S-CSCF using Service-Route it received during Registration. Dushy