Re: [Sip-implementors] REGISTER request, connection termination

2009-12-09 Thread Dale Worley
On Tue, 2009-12-08 at 23:42 +, Brez Borland wrote: > Dale has a point. I was impressed watching talk dedicated to ipv6 > where major minds behind ipv6 development seemed to be straight > ignorant, or least interested, in the notion of private network > implementations such as NAT. their positio

Re: [Sip-implementors] REGISTER request, connection termination

2009-12-09 Thread Dale Worley
On Mon, 2009-12-07 at 17:30 -0500, pvall...@csc.com wrote: > When will that happen to SBCs..:) Actually, SIP works quite well with SBCs, as long as the SBC does not attempt to restrict what features of SIP are used. Unfortunately, many service providers configure their SBCs not only to perform s

Re: [Sip-implementors] REGISTER request, connection termination

2009-12-09 Thread Brez Borland
rs@lists.cs.columbia.edu >> Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] REGISTER request, connection >> termination >> >> Dale has a point. I was impressed watching talk dedicated to >> ipv6 where major minds behind ipv6 development seemed to be >> straight ignorant, or lea

Re: [Sip-implementors] REGISTER request, connection termination

2009-12-09 Thread Tom Uijldert
bia.edu > Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] REGISTER request, connection > termination > > Dale has a point. I was impressed watching talk dedicated to > ipv6 where major minds behind ipv6 development seemed to be > straight ignorant, or least interested, in the notion of > p

Re: [Sip-implementors] REGISTER request, connection termination

2009-12-08 Thread Brez Borland
Dale has a point. I was impressed watching talk dedicated to ipv6 where major minds behind ipv6 development seemed to be straight ignorant, or least interested, in the notion of private network implementations such as NAT. their position is that every device should have a public IP. Which in my opi

Re: [Sip-implementors] REGISTER request, connection termination

2009-12-07 Thread Dale Worley
On Mon, 2009-12-07 at 21:11 +0100, Iñaki Baz Castillo wrote: > El Lunes, 7 de Diciembre de 2009, Dale Worley escribió: > > On Wed, 2009-11-18 at 00:15 +0100, Iñaki Baz Castillo wrote: > > > I still wake up every day asking myself how SIP protocol was born > > > assuming there is no NAT... :( > > >

Re: [Sip-implementors] REGISTER request, connection termination

2009-12-07 Thread Iñaki Baz Castillo
El Lunes, 7 de Diciembre de 2009, Dale Worley escribió: > On Wed, 2009-11-18 at 00:15 +0100, Iñaki Baz Castillo wrote: > > I still wake up every day asking myself how SIP protocol was born > > assuming there is no NAT... :( > > How long have you been involved with the IETF? A lot of IETF people >

Re: [Sip-implementors] REGISTER request, connection termination

2009-12-07 Thread Dale Worley
On Wed, 2009-11-18 at 00:15 +0100, Iñaki Baz Castillo wrote: > I still wake up every day asking myself how SIP protocol was born assuming > there is no NAT... :( How long have you been involved with the IETF? A lot of IETF people hate NATs like the Pope hates Satan. Dale

Re: [Sip-implementors] REGISTER request, connection termination

2009-11-17 Thread Brez Borland
That is a shame indeed.. :( On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 11:15 PM, Iñaki Baz Castillo wrote: > El Miércoles, 18 de Noviembre de 2009, Brez Borland escribió: >> Thank you all, it is clear to me now. >> >> Quick look at 5626. The new spec is big. > > Too big, too complex and too late IMHO. > I still wak

Re: [Sip-implementors] REGISTER request, connection termination

2009-11-17 Thread Iñaki Baz Castillo
El Miércoles, 18 de Noviembre de 2009, Brez Borland escribió: > Thank you all, it is clear to me now. > > Quick look at 5626. The new spec is big. Too big, too complex and too late IMHO. I still wake up every day asking myself how SIP protocol was born assuming there is no NAT... :( -- Iñak

Re: [Sip-implementors] REGISTER request, connection termination

2009-11-17 Thread Brez Borland
Thank you all, it is clear to me now. Quick look at 5626. The new spec is big. But though made it easier on me. At least we came up with the way to tackle these situations. Regards, Brez On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 10:38 PM, Paul Kyzivat wrote: > > > Brez Borland wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> Below

Re: [Sip-implementors] REGISTER request, connection termination

2009-11-17 Thread Iñaki Baz Castillo
El Martes, 17 de Noviembre de 2009, Victor Pascual Avila escribió: > On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 11:27 PM, Iñaki Baz Castillo wrote: > > Read RFC 5256 "Managing Client-Initiated Connections" (previously > > "sip-outboud draft"). It is the new way to handle those situations. > > * rfc5626 Thanks :)

Re: [Sip-implementors] REGISTER request, connection termination

2009-11-17 Thread Paul Kyzivat
Brez Borland wrote: > Hi all, > > Below I assume using tcp transport for registrations. > > As I understand, while using a reliable transport for dialogs the > connection between UAC and the next hop is active until the dialog is > terminated by one party sending BYE and another party respondin

Re: [Sip-implementors] REGISTER request, connection termination

2009-11-17 Thread Victor Pascual Avila
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 11:27 PM, Iñaki Baz Castillo wrote: > Read RFC 5256 "Managing Client-Initiated Connections" (previously "sip-outboud > draft"). It is the new way to handle those situations. * rfc5626 -- Victor Pascual Ávila ___ Sip-implementor

Re: [Sip-implementors] REGISTER request, connection termination

2009-11-17 Thread Iñaki Baz Castillo
El Martes, 17 de Noviembre de 2009, Brez Borland escribió: > Hi all, > > Below I assume using tcp transport for registrations. > > As I understand, while using a reliable transport for dialogs the > connection between UAC and the next hop is active until the dialog is > terminated by one party se

[Sip-implementors] REGISTER request, connection termination

2009-11-17 Thread Brez Borland
Hi all, Below I assume using tcp transport for registrations. As I understand, while using a reliable transport for dialogs the connection between UAC and the next hop is active until the dialog is terminated by one party sending BYE and another party responding back. The connections on both side