At 2:58 pm, Saturday, June 1 2002, ramon buckland mumbled:
I thinking of maybe a search/query tool in maybe console and or X
format.
I Often have found myself looking for the package NAME of the software
I know.
apt-cache search .\*
The reason it looks like that is that apt-cache
Hi there,
This is probably OT but someone on the list might be able to point me in
the right direction.
As part of an effort to get Linux into a large site (more than 400
users), I was hoping that someone on the list might be able to point me
to any case studies to do with Total Cost of
Just to indicate why the sysadmin/user ratio is important:
Consider over 6 years. TCO for Linux vs MS.
Assumptions: Sysadmins cost you an average of $75K/year counting
on-costs (ie super, govt taxes, deskspace, leasing equip etc, etc).
If the ratio users they can support is 1:100 for Linux
The ongoing cost of hardware has to be a big factore, that is most MS
products require more resources(memory etc), you could effectively double
the number of years you get out of each unit by using Linux.
Lindows and Unitedlinux
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/05/31/1022569824410.html are
At Sat, 01 Jun 2002 16:52:26 +1000, Bill Taylor wrote:
I managed to get the 8 CDs (May snapshot) tried to load bf 2.4 off the
4th cd, but it needed the 1st cd for the base system.
now i'm stuck in the loop as below
Graeme Robinson wrote on 6/5/02:15:22:
so far very smooth. On reboot I
If the ratio users they can support is 1:100 for Linux (which I suspect
is true) and 1:30 for Microsoft (again this is my experience). The cost
benefit is:
My experience is that I have 50 user, 3 server clients that have no fulltime
support at all.
In fact if we do a good job setting them up,
quote who=David Kempe
My experience is that I have 50 user, 3 server clients that have no
fulltime support at all. In fact - for the scenarios I am thinking of the
ratios would be mostly similar - sorry to burst your bubble on this.
That's the critical difference though - you're comparing
quote who=Dan Treacy
Anyway the problem is thus... somehow downloader for x is minimised or
iconified or whatever the hell you want to call it on the Gnome Panel and
I can't for the life of me get it back to see the status screen etc. This
isn't all that much of a drama as it still
quote who=Stuart
I was hoping that someone on the list might be able to point me
to any case studies to do with Total Cost of Ownership Microsoft vs
Linux for large user numbers. Here's some stuff I need to know:
Here's a relatively recent one, from .au:
On Sun, 2002-06-02 at 20:48, Jeff Waugh wrote:
quote who=David Kempe
My experience is that I have 50 user, 3 server clients that have no
fulltime support at all. In fact - for the scenarios I am thinking of the
ratios would be mostly similar - sorry to burst your bubble on this.
thanks Angus, for your earlier postings to others as well as to mine.
Humble apologies to deb, I agree
Angus Lees wrote:
you are underestimating the smarts of apt ;)
(assuming there are no bugs) apt/dpkg won't let you install
conflicting packages.
this is not helped by the fact that i only
The problem with the system crashing is solved, and all is now well in
the Kendall household. :-)
As Jan suggested, a good thing to try was dropping the resolution of
the X session down from 1600x1200. That seemed to stop the crashes.
I also downloaded the updated XFree86 packages, since:
On Sun, 2002-06-02 at 20:49, Jeff Waugh wrote:
quote who=Dan Treacy
Anyway the problem is thus... somehow downloader for x is minimised or
iconified or whatever the hell you want to call it on the Gnome Panel and
I can't for the life of me get it back to see the status screen etc. This
quote who=Dan Treacy
somehow I popped up a prefernces dialog and went right through that and
unchecked or deselected anything that looked like it might have saved
setup or session or window positon etc.. seems to have worked but not
what I'd call an elegant solution since if it happened
quote who=Peter Rundle
There is some problem with creating additional folders, well they get
created but sometimes they appear as children of Inbox instead of folders
in their own right (iPlanet works fine but courier doesn't, apparently a
disagreement about standards).
And that Courier is
Jeff -
Happened to see this yesterday I think you said (a year ago when I
was looking for a newsletter layout program) that Desktop Publishing for
Linux was poor / not available. This looks like that may be changing.
http://web2.altmuehlnet.de/fschmid/about.html
Regards,
Richard.
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I can provide a similar example to David.
One of my clients is 40 users, 7 gateway/firewall/routers, 2 servers over
7 sites across about 500km and the total support need is about 30
mins/business day on a bad day (dropped tunnels, jammed printer spools,
bloody minded Digi portservers [on the way
At Sun, 02 Jun 2002 22:47:10 +1000, Bill Taylor wrote:
well then, there's your first list of packages to install:
apt-get install lynx less mc
you currently have a *very* basic install of debian - only the barest
essentials are installed during the first phase.
did this, only got lynx
Glen is absolutely right here. If everybody becomes a zealot towards
people who use GPL software, then nobody will want to get burnt.
Without the commercial application of GPL software, it will eventually
become an interesiting academic point.
We need to be supporting comercial enteprises who
did this, only got lynx and mc; debconf seems to be tied up, as the
loop is still running on tty1, so less wasn't configured. I'm patiently
working through the pids, hope to find the culprit.
If that fails, I'll rename a file at a time till the loop dies. killing
the pid doesn't
I have a client's workstation on the bench at the moment which has a
complaint of being _very_ slow on their local ethernet.
I just booted it up on my local network and it gave no symptoms, but I
have since rebooted it and am getting the described symptoms.
An ssh into the box takes over 5
On Mon, 2002-06-03 at 06:51, Richard Ames wrote:
Happened to see this yesterday I think you said (a year ago when I
was looking for a newsletter layout program) that Desktop Publishing for
Linux was poor / not available. This looks like that may be changing.
On Mon, Jun 03, 2002 at 10:46:23AM +1000, Howard Lowndes wrote:
I have a client's workstation on the bench at the moment which has a
complaint of being _very_ slow on their local ethernet.
I just booted it up on my local network and it gave no symptoms, but I
have since rebooted it and am
I'm sure someone asked about this before but have been unable to find
anything usefull in the archives or on the Apache website...
What I want to do is have a webserver fetching some of it's content from a
second apache that is NOT visible to the outside world.
I'm sure it can be done, but
Does anyone here have experience to share setting up a web-cafe style
environment under Linux?
I (indirectly) have someone interested in doing so and would like
comments, etc.
* It seems to me it should be very easy _if_ you've done it before. :)
* What about the Computerbank guys? This seems
On Mon, 3 Jun 2002, Jessica Mayo wrote:
What I want to do is have a webserver fetching some of it's content from a
second apache that is NOT visible to the outside world.
ModRewrite is your friend. You basically define regexps which can map to
random other machines. You might also need
This month, David McGuire will be giving a talk on installing Debian on
an iBook, more specifically how a non-expert did it.
Don't forget to bring GPG keys. Keys are good, and need signing.
Where: Woolloomooloo Bay Hotel - boardroom (upstairs)
When: Wednesday, 11th of June 19:00 - 20:00
Cost:
On Mon, 2002-06-03 at 13:56, Jessica Mayo wrote:
I'm sure someone asked about this before but have been unable to find
anything usefull in the archives or on the Apache website...
What I want to do is have a webserver fetching some of it's content from a
second apache that is NOT visible
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I'm sure someone asked about this before but have been unable to find
anything usefull in the archives or on the Apache website...
What I want to do is have a webserver
On Mon, Jun 03, 2002 at 01:56:31PM +1000, Jessica Mayo wrote:
What I want to do is have a webserver fetching some of it's content from a
second apache that is NOT visible to the outside world.
mod_proxy
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Richard,
Have a look at the Netwinder computers. The 2 predominant models use a Transmeta chip
and a StrongARM chip respectively (from memory).
They are extremely low powered and anything I've read about them has been positive.
I think its more of an application server that does VPN and
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