Re: [SLUG] Linux easy Windoze very hard!

2004-03-07 Thread Richard Neal
Hai I usually show people this review of XP versus Mandrake 9.2 on a brand new Shuttle SB62G2 small form factor system. http://www.sudhian.com/showdocs.cfm?aid=491 Quick rundown of both installs... XP install * 50 minutes (excluding time to format disk) * One DVD-ROM, one driver C

[SLUG] call for votes: BSP talks

2004-03-07 Thread Matthew Palmer
OK, I've gotten myself roped into doing some talks for the BSP next Saturday (must remember to duck *then* dodge next time ). The problem is, there's a lot of different stuff which *could* be useful, but there's only a limited amount of time for me (and others ) to talk. So, in the spirit of open

[SLUG] Best way to get to the BSP?

2004-03-07 Thread Matthew Palmer
I'm trying to work out how I should get my sad arse to the BSP on Saturday. The motorbike is a little sick, and I'll probably need the time on the train trip up to finish off talk slides, so I'm leaning towards the "wonders" of public transport. From the look of the street directory, Redfern is a

Re: [SLUG] call for votes: BSP talks

2004-03-07 Thread Jeff Waugh
> * Playing with the Debian BTS (30 min). What it is, what it does, and how > to do everything from submitting bugs, manipulating bugs, and the many > ways of closing bug reports. If there's enough time, I'll go through some > of the other BTS-associated things (like the PTS). Aye-aye! > * Al

Re: [SLUG] call for votes: BSP talks

2004-03-07 Thread Robert Collins
On Sun, 2004-03-07 at 20:30, Matthew Palmer wrote: > * Version Control Is Your Friend (30 min). Why you should learn a version > control system, and the basics (*very* basics) of using CVS. While the > world seems to be moving to subversion, CVS is still very widely used, and > the basic concepts

Re: [SLUG] Best way to get to the BSP?

2004-03-07 Thread Mary Gardiner
On Sun, Mar 07, 2004, Matthew Palmer wrote: > I'm trying to work out how I should get my sad arse to the BSP on > Saturday. The motorbike is a little sick, and I'll probably need the > time on the train trip up to finish off talk slides, so I'm leaning > towards the "wonders" of public transport.

Re: [SLUG] call for votes: BSP talks

2004-03-07 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sun, Mar 07, 2004 at 08:40:28PM +1100, Robert Collins wrote: > On Sun, 2004-03-07 at 20:30, Matthew Palmer wrote: > > * Version Control Is Your Friend (30 min). Why you should learn a version > > control system, and the basics (*very* basics) of using CVS. While the > > world seems to be movin

Re: [SLUG] call for votes: BSP talks

2004-03-07 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sun, Mar 07, 2004 at 08:39:10PM +1100, Jeff Waugh wrote: > > * Alex Comfort's Joy of Debconf (30 min). What is it, how it works, and > > why it's so cool for your packages. With special emphasis on Debconf > > abuse and how to avoid it. > > Ha ha ha. Will there be pencil sketches of the Joy o

Re: [SLUG] call for votes: BSP talks

2004-03-07 Thread Jamie Wilkinson
This one time, at band camp, Matthew Palmer wrote: >* Methods of package building (30 min). From the basic debian/rules binary, >to dpkg-buildpackage, debuild, and pbuilder. If I've worked it out by then, >also, permanent chroots. i can add some about tla-buildpackage if you like >* Basic debug

Re: [SLUG] call for votes: BSP talks

2004-03-07 Thread Felix Sheldon
Matthew Palmer wrote: TOPICS: * Packaging and Building (1 hour). An amalgum of the above two talks, with all the interdependencies between the two parts followed. Please note that I'll likely only do one or the other - it all depends on whether people want to be bored in short blocks or in one

[SLUG] Perl question

2004-03-07 Thread Alexander Samad
Quick question How can I do this print "This is the value ".$x->SomeFunc(); as print "This is the value $x->SomeFunc()"; seems like the substition stops at the - on the second line Alex signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slu

Re: [SLUG] Perl question

2004-03-07 Thread Michael (Micksa) Slade
Alexander Samad wrote: Quick question How can I do this print "This is the value ".$x->SomeFunc(); as print "This is the value $x->SomeFunc()"; You can go: print "This is the value @{[$x->SomeFunc()]}"; But are you sure you want to do that? ;) Mick. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Ma

Re: [SLUG] call for votes: BSP talks

2004-03-07 Thread Patrick Lesslie
On Sun, Mar 07, 2004 at 08:30:58PM +1100, Matthew Palmer wrote: This is fantastic. I'd love to see all of them :-} FWIW this is the order I'd pick them in. > * Basic debugging with GDB and friends (30 min - 1 hour, depending on how > * Playing with the Debian BTS (30 min). What it is, what i

Re: [SLUG] Generating accented characters

2004-03-07 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo
On Sun, 7 Mar 2004 17:12:09 +1100 Nick Croft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Erik, > > You don't need gnome-applets. All the keymaps are in > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/symbols > and are called via 'setxkbmap map'. The path is hard-wired. > > The Portuguese ones are pt and br. Unfortunately both

Re: [SLUG] Best way to get to the BSP?

2004-03-07 Thread Dave Airlie
> > towards the "wonders" of public transport. From the look of the > > street directory, Redfern is a bit closer to the EE building than > > Central, but I'm not sure if the time difference in walking times is > > worth the extra hanging around I'll need at Central or Hurstville > > (remember, I

[SLUG] Virus W32Bagle.h...

2004-03-07 Thread scott
Hey All, Just wondering how people are dealing with the above mentioned virus on their amavis mail scanners. This virus is sent as a passworded zip file, so amavis cannot unzip it to scan it. Has anyone got a work-around for this? Regards, Scott -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing Li

Re: [SLUG] Virus W32Bagle.h...

2004-03-07 Thread James Gray
On Mon, 8 Mar 2004 10:06 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hey All, > Just wondering how people are dealing with the above mentioned virus on > their amavis mail scanners. > This virus is sent as a passworded zip file, so amavis cannot unzip it to > scan it. > > Has anyone got a work-around for this?

Re: [SLUG] election

2004-03-07 Thread Mary Gardiner
On Fri, Mar 05, 2004, jared w wrote: > Hi > I would like to second Jaime Hemmett for the ordinary committee member if > she accepts :) Updated http://www.slug.org.au/2004/election.html -Mary -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http:

Re: [SLUG] Committee Nomination: Sarah Webster

2004-03-07 Thread Mary Gardiner
On Sat, Mar 06, 2004, Jan Schmidt wrote: > > > > I'd like to nominate Sarah Webster for the position of Treasurer! > > > > Seconded. Added Sarah to http://www.slug.org.au/2004/election.html Can someone send me her email address off-list so that I can check if she's willing to accept? (I know

Re: [SLUG] Committee Nomination: Jaime Hemmett

2004-03-07 Thread Mary Gardiner
On Sat, Mar 06, 2004, Jan Schmidt wrote: > > > > I'd like to nominate Jaime Hemmett for the position of Treasurer! > > > > Seconded. Updated http://www.slug.org.au/2004/election.html -Mary -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: htt

[SLUG] Mutt, exim and maildir

2004-03-07 Thread Alexander Samad
Hi Converted my mail system to maildir (previous thread), all working well converted my mbox folders and my procmail. Now my problem is for some reason messages coming in have no 'lines' attribute in the header so mutt keeps telling me the size of the emails are 0. Any body seen this before. Bi

Re: [SLUG] Mutt, exim and maildir

2004-03-07 Thread Jeff Waugh
> Now my problem is for some reason messages coming in have no 'lines' > attribute in the header so mutt keeps telling me the size of the emails > are 0. You could add the Lines header with procmail, but that's a bit lame. Who cares how many lines there are anyway? But if you realy want to:

[SLUG] Deb SIG bug squash - can #230716 get looked at?

2004-03-07 Thread Michael Lake
Hi all, This is a question about the Deb SIG bug squash this weekend. I have a *repeatable* Debian bug involving libdbi-perl on a Ti PowerBook running Debian stable (Debian bug number #230716). Is this the sort of thing that can get looked at? I have on the machine the latest source for the pack

Re: [SLUG] Deb SIG bug squash - can #230716 get looked at?

2004-03-07 Thread Jeff Waugh
> This is a question about the Deb SIG bug squash this weekend. I have a > *repeatable* Debian bug involving libdbi-perl on a Ti PowerBook running > Debian stable (Debian bug number #230716). Is this the sort of thing that > can get looked at? If that bug is also in sarge, then yes! :-) - Jef

[SLUG] Re: [activities] SLUG Events: Call for volunteers

2004-03-07 Thread Mary Gardiner
On Fri, Mar 05, 2004, Mary Gardiner wrote: > SO... if you want to be part of SLUG events outside monthly meetings: > > 1. Join the activities list at > http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/activities > > 2. reply to this mail and fill out the below (reply to activities > ONLY): > > --- Please f

Re: [SLUG] Deb SIG bug squash - can #230716 get looked at?

2004-03-07 Thread Michael Lake
Jeff Waugh wrote: > > >>This is a question about the Deb SIG bug squash this weekend. I have a >>*repeatable* Debian bug involving libdbi-perl on a Ti PowerBook running >>Debian stable (Debian bug number #230716). Is this the sort of thing that >>can get looked at? > > If that bug is also in

Re: [SLUG] Mutt, exim and maildir

2004-03-07 Thread Alexander Samad
thanks nicier, but as a side question any ideas on how I lost lines, there were there before the change to Maildir On Mon, Mar 08, 2004 at 12:31:08PM +1100, Jeff Waugh wrote: > > > > Now my problem is for some reason messages coming in have no 'lines' > > attribute in the header so mutt keeps t

Re: [SLUG] Mutt, exim and maildir

2004-03-07 Thread Jeff Waugh
> thanks nicier, but as a side question any ideas on how I lost lines, there > were there before the change to Maildir That's just a casualty of the change. It's a dumb header anyway. :-) - Jeff -- GVADEC 2004: Kristiansand, Norwayhttp://2004.guadec.org/ "So I'll

Re: [SLUG] Mutt, exim and maildir

2004-03-07 Thread Jamie Wilkinson
This one time, at band camp, Alexander Samad wrote: >thanks nicier, but as a side question any ideas on how I lost lines, >there were there before the change to Maildir You got the lines count because in mbox format it's easy to work out when parsing the mailbox file. In maildir format, it requir

Re: [SLUG] Mutt, exim and maildir

2004-03-07 Thread Alexander Samad
On Mon, Mar 08, 2004 at 02:32:32PM +1100, Jamie Wilkinson wrote: > This one time, at band camp, Alexander Samad wrote: > >thanks nicier, but as a side question any ideas on how I lost lines, > >there were there before the change to Maildir > > You got the lines count because in mbox format it's ea

[SLUG] Re: [chat] bug squish

2004-03-07 Thread Mary Gardiner
Relevant for the main list (discussion of SLUG events is on-topic), so I'm Cc-ing them in. On Mon, Mar 08, 2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > G'day, > > For this Saturdays bug squish. > > I've never attended so please bear with me. > > I take it participants should bring a lap top to work on? Ye

Re: [SLUG] Re: [chat] bug squish

2004-03-07 Thread Craige McWhirter
On Mon, 2004-03-08 at 14:48, Mary Gardiner wrote: > On Mon, Mar 08, 2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > For this Saturdays bug squish. > > > > I've never attended so please bear with me. ...nor have I and I'm organising it ;) > > I take it participants should bring a lap top to work on? > > Ye

Re: [SLUG] Virus W32Bagle.h...

2004-03-07 Thread Dave Kempe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey All, Just wondering how people are dealing with the above mentioned virus on their amavis mail scanners. This virus is sent as a passworded zip file, so amavis cannot unzip it to scan it. Has anyone got a work-around for this? nope, we have resorted to just blocking

[SLUG] Linux success stories & Open Source Industry Association

2004-03-07 Thread Grant Parnell
Hey the email below would possibly be useful on the OSIA website if it were tidied up a tad. We need some good Australian success stories, probably of a larger scale than below. For those that don't know, the secret's out now so those in the Linux Business now have a national organisation to jo

Re: [SLUG] Linux success stories & Open Source Industry Association

2004-03-07 Thread Del
Perhaps we could round up a few Sydney companies for an informal chat because NSW's lagging behind. I'm all in favour of informal chats. -- Del -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html