Re: [SLUG] Re: Article, Linux, APC

2011-06-23 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo
James Linder wrote: > I agree but I wonder if the ethical argument does not transend reality ... What? Ethical arguments are orthogonal to reality. > To what extent do most users *know* that they are using linux? /proc > /sys /dev/shm lmsensors come to mind, the rest is GNU or GPL. There is abo

[SLUG] Re: Article, Linux, APC

2011-06-23 Thread James Linder
On 24/06/2011, at 8:58 AM, slug-requ...@slug.org.au wrote: > Where to start?? > > I have to agree with Erik De here (thanks for clarifying the real ground on > which the argument stands, Erik.) and will extend the argument too. > > This article reminds me that there are 'Alan Jones' types all

Re: [SLUG] Article, Linux, APC.

2011-06-23 Thread David Lyon
I'm employed as an IT Manager. Heterogeneous environments with Linux and Windows are perfectly acceptable these days. With Android pads coming onto the market, it's reason to have even less Windows machines. Modern Linux is perfectly robust and it all works like a charm so I don't mind taking on

Re: [SLUG] Is Linux Dead a worthy Debate for a SLUG meeting?

2011-06-23 Thread Piers Rowan
On 24/06/11 07:43, David Lyon wrote: Occassionaly you'd see changes in face expression.. Piers likes this. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html

Re: [SLUG] Article, Linux, APC.

2011-06-23 Thread Kevin Shackleton
But they do - employers do pay you to use MS, otherwise their IT manager might have to shoulder some responsibility. Kevin On 24/06/2011 6:24 AM, "David Lyon" wrote: > and late model Ubuntu releases run very nicely on 8 core machines... > > somebody would have to pay me to accept windows over ubu

Re: [SLUG] Is Linux Dead a worthy Debate for a SLUG meeting?

2011-06-23 Thread Marghanita da Cruz
Adrian Chadd wrote: Everything quoted so far leverages free software. "Linux" is a small part of it. I think the GCC developers may be a bit peeved if all the credit went to Linux rather than them (and the Redhat backing it in the past); similarly with LLVM and all the open contributions being m

Re: [SLUG] Article, Linux, APC.

2011-06-23 Thread David Lyon
and late model Ubuntu releases run very nicely on 8 core machines... somebody would have to pay me to accept windows over ubuntu.. On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 8:21 AM, Jeremy Visser wrote: > David Lyon said: > > The computers 'to-die-for' now, are no longer the Windows machines > > but the Android

Re: [SLUG] Article, Linux, APC.

2011-06-23 Thread Jeremy Visser
David Lyon said: > The computers 'to-die-for' now, are no longer the Windows machines > but the Android and Apple computers. > > Clearly, they both are Linux derivates. ... -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/m

Re: [SLUG] Is Linux Dead a worthy Debate for a SLUG meeting?

2011-06-23 Thread David Lyon
Hi Patrick, You know if everybody brought their teenage children (with their android phones) they'd all be sitting there in silence (apart from the sound of electronic bing and ding) and the whole thing could be done as a facebook chat.. Occassionaly you'd see changes in face expression.. David

Re: [SLUG] Kogan Agora Laptop Better with Classic Interface and Flash Disk

2011-06-23 Thread elliott-brennan
Hi Tom, Interesting review and one worth reading. I had been looking at the Kogan books out of interest (I'm not in the market for a new machine but am always curious :)) It's a pity you're so far from Sydney otherwise we could have got you to bring it in :) Regards, Patrick -- SLUG -

Re: [SLUG] Re: Article, Linux, APC.

2011-06-23 Thread Graham Smith
On Thu, 23 Jun 2011 20:53:23 elliott-brennan wrote: > Where to start?? > > I have to agree with Erik De here (thanks for > clarifying the real ground on which the argument > stands, Erik.) and will extend the argument too. > > This article reminds me that there are 'Alan > Jones' types all around

Re: [SLUG] Is Linux Dead a worthy Debate for a SLUG meeting?

2011-06-23 Thread elliott-brennan
I'm not sure, Marghanita. It would be really interesting if it were by way of a debate with standing rules etc and people chosen to argue a position regardless of their personal view. If it were merely a 'discussion' then I just see it as feeding the trolls and looking silly for reacting t

[SLUG] Re: Article, Linux, APC.

2011-06-23 Thread elliott-brennan
Where to start?? I have to agree with Erik De here (thanks for clarifying the real ground on which the argument stands, Erik.) and will extend the argument too. This article reminds me that there are 'Alan Jones' types all around the world and in all kinds of media and it generally cheapens

[SLUG] Live streaming from SLUG - this month (24th June)! - Lightning Talks

2011-06-23 Thread Tim Ansell
Hello everyone, This week we will again be trialing live streaming of SLUG! We have successfully streamed both FP-Syd and SyPy using this set up, so I'm hoping it'll be fairly stable. We will also be uploading videos of the talk to YouTube shortly after the event (my goal is to have them up by the

[SLUG] July 7th: "Python on Wall St: A fairy tale in three parts" - Simon Burton

2011-06-23 Thread Dylan Jay
SyPy: Sydney Python Users group meetup Where does python fit in a world where microseconds count? I will talk a little bit about electronic trading, history and philosophy. Then onto the anatomy of an algorithmic trade shop with perhaps a live demo. Python finds use in rapid prototyping (of

[SLUG] Planet SLUG is down?

2011-06-23 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan
http://planet.slug.org.au/ takes me to a Google error page... -- "Our mission is to enhance learning opportunities for the 400,000 children, aged 4-15, living in remote Australia, by providing each one with a connected XO laptop as part of a sustainable training and support program, by 2014."