Re: [SLUG] GPS stuff

2001-01-02 Thread Roland Turner
Slowly, I am clearing my backlog... (My stuff arrived from Sydney today. Yay! Now I that have my battery charger back I can recharge batteries for camera, flash, GPS, etc. The last camera batteries went flat a few minutes into the new millenium, whilst crazy Berliners were letting off fireworks u

Re: [SLUG] hrmm.. go Telstra

2000-08-24 Thread Roland Turner
Rachel Polanskis wrote: > Programmers and admins *should not* cater for the needs of users. If you really mean what you typed there, then perhaps you are working in the wrong field. Admins (and lawyers, accountants, HR people, etc.) are employed _solely_ to cater for the needs of "users"(*), ex

Re: [SLUG] Display to monitor on Thinkpad

2000-08-23 Thread Roland Turner
Tim Sutton wrote: > I am the happy new custodian of a Thinkpad 600e running RedHat 6.2 and win2k > (until ESRI make a version of ArcView for Linux). Linux works quite well > except I cannot get the sound to work (I gotta figure out how to install > alsa first). > > What I want to know is how to

Re: [SLUG] Redhat Patch for Netscape Java Prob

2000-08-18 Thread Roland Turner
Matt wrote: > Has IE ever had a problem this bad ? And then some. Look for "exploder" and ActiveX. - Raz -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug

Re: [SLUG] multi-link PPP

2000-08-18 Thread Roland Turner
"Marshall, Joshua" wrote: > Will the connection actually run at 66k with two 33k modem links? What > sort of reliability might I expect, for example, what happens if one link > dies - does it revert to 33k until the other link re-establishes? Yes, but: - You'll have (much) higher latency using

Re: [SLUG] Copyright Amendment

2000-08-18 Thread Roland Turner
John Wiltshire wrote: > Is it just me or has anyone else noticed that the Copyright Amendment > Act currently back in the Senate has some relevance on the DeCSS / > LiViD work inside Australia. I've not yet figured out whether it > expressly permits Open Sorce DVDs on Linux or denys it. Does an

Re: [SLUG] Java Image Library

2000-08-17 Thread Roland Turner
Dean Hamstead wrote: > Im after some java classes that will resize images quickly > and should ideally be (l)gpl or bsd licensed. Jpg is the > main format im after resizing, but the more the merrier. > > This will save us quite a bit of development time. > > We are building a database of images

Re: [slug] A challenge..

2000-08-16 Thread Roland Turner
Ken Yap wrote: > One reason some people want to have a fairly complete distro on CD is > that not everybody wants to do a large scale update of packages via the > Internet in case the disk gets trashed. If I started from the previous > Debian distro 2.1 (yes, I know 2.2 is out), and my disk got t

Re: [SLUG] Stange ping message

2000-08-16 Thread Roland Turner
Ian Ward wrote: > Intermittently (twice in 4 days) they stop working. The call is still up to > Telstra (the techs at telstra could see it), if I ping the clients address I > get the following: > > >From FastEthernet0.civ4.Canberra.telstra.net (203.50.10.6): Source Quench There are presumably

Re: [slug] A challenge..

2000-08-16 Thread Roland Turner
Steven downing wrote: > Ooops, my mistake. I have a similar setup and forgot that about 1 gb was saved for > /home and /usr/local and swap. If you are dual booting, you may wish to explore storing /home on a DOS/Windows partition. There are naming and speed issues, but this will save disk and

Re: [slug] A challenge..

2000-08-16 Thread Roland Turner
Steven downing wrote: > I tried SuSe 6.1 I had lying around, it ran quicker but I prefer Gnome, and > I had to work hard to get it to fit into 2 gig, god knows what packages I > got rid of and might want. Deb 2.2 is out and I'm not so afraid of 'getting > my hands dirty' but after using Linux all

[SLUG] It's been a long wait

2000-08-16 Thread Roland Turner
Sometimes your chickens come home to roost. A few weeks before the initial release of the Mozilla source code, I made a radical proposal to Netscape. (In news://news.mozilla.org/350501A8.5EE6AC4C%40arrakis.com.au (or look for an article by myself titled "Eureka!" in news://news.mozilla.org/netsca

Re: [SLUG] debian 2.2 (potato) released

2000-08-16 Thread Roland Turner
Heracles wrote: > I tried Debian once (version 1.0 I think - it was on my Slackware CD back in > about 93 or 4) and it was a pain to install. I have found SuSE much better. I > admit that Debian MAY have improved a little over the last few years, but why > wear a Debian shirt if you can't even g

Re: [SLUG] What are components?

2000-08-15 Thread Roland Turner
Jamie Honan wrote: > Is my buzz word detector too sensitive, having been decalibrated > by caffinated beans and re-oriented by un-objective paradigms? Naturally everyone that you ask will have different ideas. Therefore, answering purely for myself, a component is a reusable unit of software wit

Re: [SLUG] `at' behaving strangely.

2000-08-15 Thread Roland Turner
Nick Croft wrote: > debian:~# at now + 30 minutes poff debian:~# echo poff | at now + 30 minutes - Raz -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug

Re: [SLUG] diskspace

2000-08-14 Thread Roland Turner
Stephen Mills wrote: > I have a strange problem with available disk space. > > the root partition is 407 megs, for which 380 megs is reported being used, > although this is only 5.5 megs available on the partition. It would help to see the output(s) from the tool(s) that you are using to gather

Re: [SLUG] Win2k & Debian/Mandrake

2000-08-14 Thread Roland Turner
chesty wrote: > > If you do go ahead and download the .deb archive, you'll find yourself > > needing to get more intimate with the package management system than you > > might wish. > > dpkg -i package.deb IFF you have already removed all conflicting pacakges, installed all missing packages on

Re: [SLUG] Security of auto updates; was Debian/Mandrake

2000-08-13 Thread Roland Turner
Michael Lake wrote: > What are the security implications, is rpm update or apt > get-install written in such a way to not pose a problem, am > I being too paranoid? The honest answer is "I don't know". I do know that Debian packages are signed, so it is possible to confirm that the packages that

Re: [SLUG] Daylight saving for Olympics

2000-08-13 Thread Roland Turner
Richard Ames wrote: > Does anyone know a resource that covers this for all Linux distros? The zoneinfo files appear to be a part of libc. Any distribution using the same libc that RH6.1 uses (or later), should presumably be OK. Debian's libc-2.1.3-10 appears to get it right. - Raz -- SLUG - S

Re: [SLUG] Win2k & Debian/Mandrake

2000-08-13 Thread Roland Turner
Dan Treacy wrote: > Second is related to this I'm still tossing up between Mandrake and Debian.. > I've used RH/Mandrake pretty much since I've started using Linux (Although > my first experience was actually with Slackware) but after seeing alot of > the comments both here and elsewhere I'm pret

Re: [SLUG] NFS

2000-08-13 Thread Roland Turner
Jon Biddell wrote: > How do I mount a remote filesystem to appear as part of my current one > ? > > i.e. I need to mount slave:/home/jon to appear under > xena:/home/jon/slave. mount -t nfs slave:/home/jon /home/jon/slave (Notes: - Run as root, obviously. (Non-root approaches exist, bu

Re: [SLUG] Miguel's "Unix Sucks" Paper

2000-08-11 Thread Roland Turner
Jeff Waugh wrote: > > > > Roland Turner wrote: > > > > > > The fact that he's talking about Bonobo configuration backends being > > > written in Perl suggests that the dependence upon X11 root-window > > > resources for application/component

Re: [SLUG] X authentication failure

2000-08-11 Thread Roland Turner
David wrote: > I shut down X/windowmaker and then rebooted the system. Now I can't get X > to restart. I get the following "diagnostics": > > [david@fast david]$ startx > xauth: creating new authority file /home/david/.Xauthority > Authentication failed > xinit: Server error. > [david@fast dav

Re: [SLUG] Miguel's "Unix Sucks" Paper

2000-08-11 Thread Roland Turner
Jeff Waugh wrote: > > Steve Kowalik wrote: > > > > Seems like a lame attempt to sell Bonobo/Helix stuff... > > Of course code reuse is a Good Thing[tm], but most programmers i > > know will not search for hours looking for a module, they will write their > > own. It isn't it just UNIX

Re: [SLUG] Miguel's "Unix Sucks" Paper

2000-08-11 Thread Roland Turner
Jeff Waugh wrote: > http://www.helixcode.com/~miguel/bongo-bong.html > > Comments? He left on the One True Way of propogating httpd.conf changes: /etc/init.d/apache reload I've emailled him. :-) It certainly seems that the days of "pipeline of character streams passing through filt

Bonobo vs. CORBA (Was: [SLUG] Miguel's "Unix Sucks" Paper)

2000-08-11 Thread Roland Turner
John Wiltshire wrote: > However it is fairly clearly COM -> Bonobo, not DCOM -> Bonobo (Gnome > already used CORBA and switched to Bonobo because CORBA didn't quite fit). I won't argue the COM heritage either way, but will point out that Gnome did not "switch" from CORBA to Bonobo. CORBA is (bro

Re: [SLUG] mail service outages

2000-08-09 Thread Roland Turner
Matt Allen wrote: > I know exactly what happened but I dont think im at liberty to say. > > If you knew the chain of events you would switch over to "awww shit. that sucks > and is bad luck" mode, i know i did. Interesting. I'm skeptical, but perhaps you can answer this: were the simultaneous a

Re: [SLUG] mail service outages

2000-08-09 Thread Roland Turner
John Wiltshire wrote: > Just because there is a single IP address doesn't make it a single point of > failure. As you mentioned, it is possible to have a farm of mail servers, > though you forget that you can have multiple routes from the internet > channeling into the farm, with multiple Cisco

Re: [SLUG] Re: Help, please, with shell scripting for computing checksums

2000-08-09 Thread Roland Turner
Angus Lees wrote: > the problem with this (esp in this case) is that the command line is > quite likely to get too long, so you use xargs(1): > > find . -type f -print | xargs md5sum > md5.list I'd suggest a small improvement to this. When used as above, find puts newlines between filenames wh

Re: [SLUG] mail service outages

2000-08-08 Thread Roland Turner
Jamie Honan wrote: > > Mail service outages can only happen to the grossly incompetent, the > > disinterested > > > Major ISPs have no excuse for mail service outages at all. > > Ouch. > > Telstra should make their own excuses, but this is a very hard > one. > > Maybe what you assert would be

Re: ADSL is not a direct connection to *The*Internet* (Was: ADSLrant(was: Re: [SLUG] Telstra Cable Anouncement))

2000-08-08 Thread Roland Turner
DaZZa wrote: > Incorrect assumption. > > My argument was that you _may_ get worse service on Cable - not that you > will. This is a somewhat ingenuous claim. (You were advocating ADSL in preference to cable, the fact that you _may_ get worse service on cable (much as for ADSL, unless you wish

Re: ADSL is not a direct connection to *The*Internet* (Was: ADSLrant (was: Re: [SLUG] Telstra Cable Anouncement))

2000-08-08 Thread Roland Turner
DaZZa wrote: > On Tue, 8 Aug 2000, Roland Turner wrote: > > > > The difference between ADSL and HFC systems is that HFC system uses a > > > _shared_ carrier - it's more of a broadcast system - and ADSL is a > > > _direct_ connection - you get your 1.5 meg A

Re: ADSL is not a direct connection to *The*Internet* (Was: ADSLrant (was: Re: [SLUG] Telstra Cable Anouncement))

2000-08-08 Thread Roland Turner
Andrew Macks wrote: > On Tue, 8 Aug 2000, Roland Turner wrote: > > > The local cable loop _can_ be a bottleneck, but the pressures that bring > > this about are commercial, not technical. Likely circumstances include: > > > > - Optus has grossly underprovisi

Re: ADSL rant (was: Re: [SLUG] Telstra Cable Anouncement)

2000-08-08 Thread Roland Turner
Jason Rennie wrote: > > > Cable is a rather different beast to a dial up modem, and the usage etc is > > > more open to abuse (as optus has discovered), so i think your comaprision > > > doesn't really work that well. > > > > ADSL is open to exactly the same kind of abuse. Failure to restrain > >

Re: ADSL rant (was: Re: [SLUG] Telstra Cable Anouncement)

2000-08-07 Thread Roland Turner
Jason Rennie wrote: > Not to rain on your parade or anthing, but for what it is worth, Optus has > exactly this sort of a problem at the moment, with too many of there users > trying to use all of the bandwidth at once and run it as fast as they can > 24/7. > > Cable is a rather different beast

ADSL is not a direct connection to *The*Internet* (Was: ADSL rant (was: Re: [SLUG] Telstra Cable Anouncement))

2000-08-07 Thread Roland Turner
DaZZa wrote: > The difference between ADSL and HFC systems is that HFC system uses a > _shared_ carrier - it's more of a broadcast system - and ADSL is a > _direct_ connection - you get your 1.5 meg ALL the time - not just when > none of your neighbours are using the net as well as you. That's a

Re: [SLUG] Telstra ADSL RIP-OFF

2000-08-07 Thread Roland Turner
John Wiltshire wrote: > Yes, but if you want a phone line (which most people do), then Cable + Phone > line is $80. ADSL *comes* with a phone line and costs $78. Not only do you At the risk of repeating myself, the ADSL service does not come with a phone line. Quite the contrary, it is a condi

Re: [SLUG] Linux VCR's

2000-08-07 Thread Roland Turner
Jeff Waugh wrote: > While we're on the topic of TV and tuners... Does anyone know of a > fairly controllable and definitely cronnable VCR-like program? joke about configuring cron vs. the average vcr here Cron: Identical interface across all UNIX's. (Actually, small variation to administrative

Re: [SLUG] Telstra ADSL RIP-OFF

2000-08-07 Thread Roland Turner
Scott Howard wrote: > If you have cable you have a phone line (which you use for your voice calls) > and a cable connection. This is not neccesarily the case. You could choose to have no fixed phone at all (I did this for most of 1999 in Montreal), or, if you use Optus (granted, pricing will cha

Re: [SLUG] ISPs and Permanent Static IPs

2000-08-06 Thread Roland Turner
George Vieira wrote: > I just found out that ADSL and HDSL don't have the facility to support > multiple IPs on the 1 link, fair enough I guess as it's basically a dial up > account. Telstra is, once again, displaying its facility for misunderstanding what a technology can be used for. They sold

Re: Warning -Old Foggie Alert; WAS: Re: [SLUG] routing oops

2000-08-05 Thread Roland Turner
Terry Collins wrote: > This arguement will only end in whose caveperson ancestor first stood > on a iron/nickle lode in a thunderstorm. Agreed. - Raz -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug

Re: [SLUG] Re: STG Browser Based Banking Feedback

2000-08-05 Thread Roland Turner
DaZZa wrote: > On Sat, 5 Aug 2000, Rick Welykochy wrote: > > > And of course the bestest in online banks use SSL :) > > So point me at one which does. :) Are you saying that you are aware of an online banking facility which does not? - Raz -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List -

Re: [SLUG] XDM and xinitrc

2000-08-05 Thread Roland Turner
Subba Rao wrote: > I use XDM to start my X-Window sessions. My window manager is FVWM2. > I have $HOME/.fvwm2rc which is being read when FVWM starts. I have my .xinitrc > in $HOME, which is not being read. I have some customizations which are not > being executed. When I try to modify the global

Re: [SLUG] telstra adsl bug?

2000-08-04 Thread Roland Turner
Angus Lees wrote: > before everyone gets really excited about masquerading and adsl, i > think i've uncovered a bug in telstra's end of the adsl > connection.. more details later, i just want to confirm some things > first: > > i presume i'm right in saying that i should *NEVER* see a fragmented

Re: [SLUG] Compulsory listserv?

2000-08-04 Thread Roland Turner
Scott Donkin wrote: > > Christ I'm having a good night... > > I just merrily hit the OK to all the spelling suggestions I got, including > changing unsubscribe to un subscribe. > > The msg I sent should read: > > OK - let's do this again slowly: > Can you please give me the *correct* address A

Re: [SLUG] Re: STG Browser Based Banking Feedback

2000-08-04 Thread Roland Turner
Rick Welykochy wrote: > And of course the bestest in online banks use SSL :) I kind of took that for granted. Has anyone heard of an online banking facility that doesn't? - Raz -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/sl

Re: [SLUG] Re: STG Browser Based Banking Feedback

2000-08-04 Thread Roland Turner
Rick Welykochy wrote: > > David wrote: > > > It's about the only thing Westpac gets right. Their > > internet banking runs on any late model netscrape, on any platform > > (Win/Mac/Unix) - so if Westpac can do it, why can't the others? > > Two cheers here. Westpac's online banking works fine wi

[SLUG] ADSL, physical installation

2000-08-04 Thread Roland Turner
A question for those who have actually had this installed: What is used for a physical interface? Looking at Telstra's docs, the interface is described as an "FCC type 68, 8 pin" connector. What is this? Clearly it's not the usual 605/610 or modular connector, both of which are 6-pin. Do they ins

Re: [SLUG] Widespread authentication

2000-08-02 Thread Roland Turner
Jamie Honan wrote: > (What penalties could be meted out? Banishment?) How about execution? In some parts of the world, the (correct?) identification of the creators of particular pieces of intended-to-be anonymous speech is likely to have this result. The problem is spam, the elimination of ano

Re: [SLUG] Broadband access with permanent IP address?

2000-08-01 Thread Roland Turner
Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: > I'm looking for broadband access with a permanent IP > address and an AUP which allow the setting up of > servers. > > I looked into the BPA Business Plan but they can't guarantee > a permanent IP. ISDN is another option but seems WAY overpriced. It's only over-pric

[SLUG] PHP Experts, Java integration

2000-07-29 Thread Roland Turner
Hi all. First up, thanks for the help to date on PHP. It finally turned out to be a Debian bug: the php3-mysql package does not add itself to php3's configuration (i.e. append an 'extension' line to php3.ini). Most useful. Now a new question: During Friday's discussion on PHP's, ah, strengths an

Re: [SLUG] Home built server question

2000-07-29 Thread Roland Turner
RunTimeError wrote: > From what I understand about computer systems is that the video card is > required by the bios because the video card has its own bios, when you power > the computer, the mainboard bios probes the video card for its bios > information before it proceeds to do anything else.

Flinging (Was: [SLUG] To learn, to troll, to participate?)

2000-07-27 Thread Roland Turner
Anand Kumria wrote: > (practising flinging Tuxes at high speed at people ...) Custard Tuxes? - Raz -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug

Re: [SLUG] lock users to their home directories on a telnet?

2000-07-25 Thread Roland Turner
Andrew Reilly wrote: > I don't have it on my system, but how could a different login shell > stop you from starting a /bin/sh with, say, a vi shell escape? > (... or just typing /bin/sh and being done with it.) In the former case, 'vi -S' (for nvi, other vis have different means, some even look

Re: [SLUG] PHP experts

2000-07-20 Thread Roland Turner
Matt Allen wrote: > All working now my lappy now. > > A Few notes: > > * My Lappy is runnign PHP-4.0.1pl2 > * I had to edit my php.ini file and set the include path to: > include_path=/usr/local/src/SF1.5/www/include:/usr/local/src/SF1.5 > * Dont forget to edit

Re: [SLUG] Sane and scanner

2000-07-20 Thread Roland Turner
Bill wrote: > Just a newbie question for the experts. > > I have an Acer Vuego 610s (SCSI) scanner, which is recognised by RedHat 6.2 > > Can anybody avise which scanner driver under Sane is appropriate? When you say "recognised by RedHat 6.2" what do you mean, exactly? Also, what output does

Re: [SLUG] PHP experts

2000-07-20 Thread Roland Turner
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Matt Allen wrote: > > > > Roland, > > > > "document contains no data" does mean that PHP has basically crapped itself, and > > yes, it does do it at funny times. > > Other causes maybe trying to do math with a $var that is not an INT Or, no doubt, any of a host of oth

Re: [SLUG] PHP experts

2000-07-20 Thread Roland Turner
Jeff Waugh wrote: > Raz, I know you'll understand me when I say, > > apt-get install php3-cgi The magic of Debian. I should have considered that. Thanks. I wonder why they don't just install both at the same time. The, ah, good news is that PHP exhibits the same bebaviour in CGI mode. - R

Re: [SLUG] PHP experts

2000-07-20 Thread Roland Turner
Matt Allen wrote: > "document contains no data" does mean that PHP has basically crapped itself, and > yes, it does do it at funny times. > > What you can do is run Apache from withing gdb and have a look at the backtrace, > they are pretty helpful. > > If you need a hand, let me know. I'm letti

Re: [SLUG] PHP experts

2000-07-20 Thread Roland Turner
Matt Allen wrote: > "document contains no data" does mean that PHP has basically crapped itself, and > yes, it does do it at funny times. > > What you can do is run Apache from withing gdb and have a look at the backtrace, > they are pretty helpful. > > If you need a hand, let me know. There w

[SLUG] PHP experts

2000-07-20 Thread Roland Turner
Hi all. I'm in the process of (attempting to) set up a SourceForge site. I'm told that I'll be giving a talk about it at the SLUG meeting next week, so I'll save the whats and whys for then. I am having difficulty with this fine (cough!) PHP language, in particular its habit of responding to err