RE: [SLUG] Dreamweaver clone for Linux ?

2009-09-17 Thread 高远
http://www.w3.org/Amaya/screenshots/Overview.html Amaya looks much prettier than years ago. And it's from W3C. > Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 11:44:15 +1000 > From: gnu...@aromagardens.com.au > To: slug@slug.org.au > Subject: Re: [SLUG] Dreamweaver clone for Linux ? > > Kyle

Re: [SLUG] Dreamweaver clone for Linux ?

2009-09-17 Thread Steven Tucker
Kyle wrote: Hi Folks, what is the best FOSS Dreamweaver clone for Linux?Junior wants to start building his own website, so he's going to require some assistance. What do folks use pls? +1 for Kompozer. I was in a web design class at uni where we were allowed to use dreamweaver or code

Re: [SLUG] Dreamweaver clone for Linux ?

2009-09-17 Thread Jeff Waugh
> Using WordPress as an example: two years ago, they were basically > addslashes()'ing strings before concatenating them with a MySQL query. > > Now, they've since completely moved to a printf-style model, where they > put some %s tags in a query, and pass the values as function parameters, > no

Re: [SLUG] Dreamweaver clone for Linux ?

2009-09-17 Thread Jeremy Visser
On Thu, 2009-09-17 at 19:43 +1000, Daniel Pittman wrote: > Also, as I note, this is based on *TWO YEAR OLD* information. I don't know > what Drupal and Joomla have done to systematically address these issues since > that time. They could have done a lot, so it’s worth checking out. Using WordPre

Re: [SLUG] Dreamweaver clone for Linux ?

2009-09-17 Thread Michael Chesterton
On 17/09/2009, at 1:16 PM, Kyle wrote: Thanks all for the suggestions. Meryl, he's 9. I.e. the attention span of a goldfish. I think we'll start with baby steps. I wonder if openoffice.org might have something, the word processor can save as html. If you search around, you might be able

Re: [SLUG] Dreamweaver clone for Linux ?

2009-09-17 Thread Daniel Pittman
david writes: > Ishwor wrote: >> >>> Plus you should consider setting up Drupal to manage his pages. >>> >>> 1. Learning the CMS was is better anyway since that is the way real web >>> sites are managed now; >>> >>> 2. He can start out with filtered HTML (which is dead simple), then as he >>> lear

Re: [SLUG] Dreamweaver clone for Linux ?

2009-09-17 Thread Adam Kennedy
2009/9/17 Kyle : > he's 9. I.e. the attention span of a goldfish. Indeed. I was quite surprised at some of the answers you got. Some of the suggestions sounded like the equivalent of teaching about gravity and acceleration by starting "First, lets learn about co-efficients of friction and the ca

Re: [SLUG] Dreamweaver clone for Linux ?

2009-09-17 Thread meryl
Yes 高远 I forgot about Amaya... it is very good and Aptana is hot stuff too. http://www.aptana.com/ Meryl -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html

Re: [SLUG] Dreamweaver clone for Linux ?

2009-09-16 Thread Adrian Chadd
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009, david wrote: > So you are suggesting that all those people running Drupal etc are > insecure? Just curious, because I'm just setting up a Drupal site for > someone. The PHP core has had a few interesting vulnerabilities over the last few years but by and large the availab

Re: [SLUG] Dreamweaver clone for Linux ?

2009-09-16 Thread david
Ishwor wrote: Folks Hi. Plus you should consider setting up Drupal to manage his pages. 1. Learning the CMS was is better anyway since that is the way real web sites are managed now; 2. He can start out with filtered HTML (which is dead simple), then as he learns progress to unfiltered, and

Re: [SLUG] Dreamweaver clone for Linux ?

2009-09-16 Thread meryl
> > This is why I love SLUG. > > Somebody asks for a Linux Dreamweaver alternative, and it goes from > > "do it in vim" to "He should just learn Python". ... and it raises the question; When is one too young to start programming? By the time Kyle's little goldfish is 11 he'll might even be writi

Re: [SLUG] Dreamweaver clone for Linux ?

2009-09-16 Thread Rick Welykochy
Martin Visser wrote: I'm a big Python fan, but I reckon you can code up just as many insecure sites or web frameworks in Python as you can in PHP. Often security probs are PEBKAC, be it the programmer or a hapless user. cheers rickw -- _ Rick Welykochy || P

Re: [SLUG] Dreamweaver clone for Linux ?

2009-09-16 Thread Martin Visser
We just want to make sure Kyle is asking the right question ;-) Regards, Martin martinvisse...@gmail.com On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Blindraven wrote: > This is why I love SLUG. > Somebody asks for a Linux Dreamweaver alternative, and it goes from "do it > in vim" to "He should just lear

Re: [SLUG] Dreamweaver clone for Linux ?

2009-09-16 Thread Martin Visser
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Ishwor wrote: > > PHP is full of bugs and security vulnerabilities(all the time). It > maybe easier to learn+program comparatively but I would rather not > bother with it. > > I would rather suggest that junior start with Python. > I'm a big Python fan, but I r

Re: [SLUG] Dreamweaver clone for Linux ?

2009-09-16 Thread Blindraven
This is why I love SLUG. Somebody asks for a Linux Dreamweaver alternative, and it goes from "do it in vim" to "He should just learn Python". We're tops. !! On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Ishwor wrote: > Folks > Hi. > > > Plus you should consider setting up Drupal to manage his pages. > >

Re: [SLUG] Dreamweaver clone for Linux ?

2009-09-16 Thread Ishwor
Folks Hi. > Plus you should consider setting up Drupal to manage his pages. > > 1. Learning the CMS was is better anyway since that is the way real web > sites are managed now; > > 2. He can start out with filtered HTML (which is dead simple), then as he > learns progress to unfiltered, and eventu

Re: [SLUG] Dreamweaver clone for Linux ?

2009-09-16 Thread Dean Hamstead
Try NVU http://net2.com/nvu/ although its been dead for a long while. http://kompozer.net/ which seems to be under development again! Dean Kyle wrote: Hi Folks, what is the best FOSS Dreamweaver clone for Linux?Junior wants to start building his own website, so he's going to require

Re: [SLUG] Dreamweaver clone for Linux ?

2009-09-16 Thread jon
Or Joomla! -- www.joomla.org. Jon. Troy Rollo wrote: Plus you should consider setting up Drupal to manage his pages. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html

Re: [SLUG] Dreamweaver clone for Linux ?

2009-09-16 Thread Kyle
Thanks all for the suggestions. Meryl, he's 9. I.e. the attention span of a goldfish. I think we'll start with baby steps. :-) Kind Regards Kyle meryl wrote: Kyle wrote: what is the best FOSS Dreamweaver clone f

RE: [SLUG] Dreamweaver clone for Linux ?

2009-09-16 Thread Troy Rollo
org.au] On Behalf Of meryl Sent: Thursday, 17 September 2009 11:44 AM To: slug@slug.org.au Subject: Re: [SLUG] Dreamweaver clone for Linux ? Kyle wrote: > what is the best FOSS Dreamweaver clone for Linux? Bluefish or Quanta Plus would be what I'd recommend if a Dreamweaver style co

Re: [SLUG] Dreamweaver clone for Linux ?

2009-09-16 Thread meryl
Kyle wrote: > what is the best FOSS Dreamweaver clone for Linux? Bluefish or Quanta Plus would be what I'd recommend if a Dreamweaver style coding-helper is required. But Junior will really learn a lot more about standards, web development & clean code if he just uses gedit and follows the W3C sch

Re: [SLUG] Dreamweaver clone for Linux ?

2009-09-16 Thread Ben Donohue
you could try Kompozer http://kompozer.net/ Ben Kyle wrote: Hi Folks, what is the best FOSS Dreamweaver clone for Linux?Junior wants to start building his own website, so he's going to require some assistance. What do folks use pls? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List -

Re: [SLUG] Dreamweaver clone for Linux ?

2009-09-16 Thread Jeremy Visser
On Thu, 2009-09-17 at 10:43 +1000, Kyle wrote: > what is the best FOSS Dreamweaver clone for Linux?Junior wants to > start building his own website, so he's going to require some assistance. > > What do folks use pls? Teach him HTML 5. It's dead easier than HTML 4 in terms of markup simplici

[SLUG] Dreamweaver clone for Linux ?

2009-09-16 Thread Kyle
Hi Folks, what is the best FOSS Dreamweaver clone for Linux?Junior wants to start building his own website, so he's going to require some assistance. What do folks use pls? -- Kind Regards Kyle -- SLUG - Sydney Lin