We're probably abusing the list here ...
You can imprint a record-oriented structure onto a stream format
by using tags in the stream but trying to support a stream by using
a record format is really ugly (not impossible). It is desirable
to have a format that makes it easy to build higher
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On Sat, Jun 11, 2005 at 09:15:27AM +1000, Jamie Honan wrote:
I can't believe I'm defending xml.
A good mental exercise to remind yourself of why you don't want it
and providing handy straw men for me to knock down.
I'd like to coin the name RML
This one time, at band camp, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Correct... and that's what makes HTML successful. The whole world wide web
thing simply would not have happened if we started out with something as
strict and breakable as XML.
Actually, if the initial spec had said all HTML pages MUST be
On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 10:17:16AM +0100, Rev Simon Rumble wrote:
Actually, if the initial spec had said all HTML pages MUST be valid XML
or the browser MUST give an error and make no attempt at rendering it
and this had been honoured by NCSA and Nutscrape, the web would be in a
much better
I can't believe I'm defending xml.
I'm not a fan of it, but a lot of thought went into it, there's
a lot of agreement on it, and there are some very good ideas in it.
Correct... and that's what makes HTML successful. The whole world wide web
thing simply would not have happened if we started
On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 08:58:38PM +1000, Ian Wienand wrote:
XML is so useful because it provides such good abstractions. You can
define it with a DTD, whack all your data in it, walk it with XPath
and display it with XSLT and some CSS.
That's not really an intrinsic property of XML, that is
Don't confuse the language with the parser. By this criterion even TeX
doesn't make it as a markup language - I have had many, many files fail to
parse over a single error. One TeX parser I used even had an extra help
key: when you pressed it, the response was usually I've given you all the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
By the way, how DO I get perl to read such a file?
Just forget the xml jazz and grep out the mp3 links :)
http://linc.homeunix.org:8080/scripts/bashpodder is about 10 lines of
bash and works nicely.
In addition to hack, John Safran and Dr Karl are also available
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On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 08:34:53PM +1000, Jan Newmarch wrote:
Don't confuse the language with the parser. By this criterion even TeX
doesn't make it as a markup language - I have had many, many files fail to
parse over a single error.
TeX is a
On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 09:30:47AM +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If I change the character this once then that's fixes the problem once,
since it is a news feed I'll just have to face the problem again which
means what I really have to do is write a program to fix the data.
In effect, I'm
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On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 11:04:07AM +1000, Matthew Palmer wrote:
The problem with XML isn't that it's a crap language, it's that people are
very poor at following instructions. When a spec says thou MUST do it this
way, instead of doing it this
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