[SLUG] The 'nanny state' and freedom of choice

From time to time, SLUG, gets into philosophical debates, in relation to Internet Filtering and Free/Open Source Software. I found this parliamentary briefing interesting and thought others may too. Note its focus is tobacco and gambling - so the principles may or may not apply. JUNE 16, 201

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Marghanita da Cruz wrote: From time to time, SLUG, gets into philosophical debates, in relation to Internet Filtering and Free/Open Source Software. I found this parliamentary briefing interesting and thought others may too. Note its focus is tobacco and gambling - so the principles may or ma

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Yes, Australia is definitely a Nanny state... So many examples - particularly in technology. High Speed Trains - we have 200kmh capable XPT trains. Not allowed to run them at their designed speed. Only run at 80-90kmh Uranium. Allowed to dig it up. Not allowed to use it in a pressure cooker or u

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> "David" == David Lyon writes: David> Last technology example... David> Try find any of the great Australian Technology developed by David> Australians in an Australian Museum in Canberra or Sydney - David> it's not there. You should check out the mezzanine level of the PowerHouse museum.

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I'm not having a stab at the PowerHouse.. but why can't we use that AI system on Australia's High Speed Trains? why force those people to work in China not here? why does Nanny say No to trains that run faster than 90kmh? Why does Nanny say NO to having that technology here in Australia? On W

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I'm guessing that the 90km/h limit on the trains is more about the tracks than the trains. On 06/29/2011 11:36 AM, David Lyon wrote: I'm not having a stab at the PowerHouse.. but why can't we use that AI system on Australia's High Speed Trains? why force those people to work in China not here?

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On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 11:05:32AM +1000, david wrote: > > Some years ago in NSW, children of Jehovah's Witnesses were denied blood > transfusions by their parents because of religious beliefs. The state > introduced legislation and stepped in to make such children wards of the > state if th

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In Japan in the 1960's they were running standard trains on standard tracks on the the Shenkazen line at 160kmh - 200kmh. When they wanted to go faster than 200kmh they built special tracks. The XPT trains will run on standard tracks at 160-180kmh. But it isn't allowed. Australian Trains still do

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This whole thread is way off topic. Could it please be moved to slug-chat where it belongs. Cheers, John On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 11:05:32AM +1000, david wrote: > > > Marghanita da Cruz wrote: > > From time to time, SLUG, gets into philosophical debates, in relation to > >Internet Filtering and

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It has everything to do with the tracks and the guage of the tracks. NSW tracks in particular are rated around 110Kms/hour. But with the extreme temperatures (definable difference between seasons) we experience the tracks would require more frequent realignment. Rather than the once or twice a y

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I'm not sure any of those examples support the idea that Australia is a 'nanny state'. On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 11:26, David Lyon wrote: > Yes, Australia is definitely a Nanny state... > > So many examples - particularly in technology. > > High Speed Trains - we have 200kmh capable XPT trains. Not

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The reality is more boring than your theory. I can't speak for years gone by but recently in the last couple of years there was an upgrade of the sleepers from wood to concrete with has caused all sorts of problems and as such the trains can't go as fast as they previously could. It was reporte

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Re: [SLUG] The 'nanny state' and freedom of choice david Wed, 29 Jun 2011 11:05:32 +1000 Some years ago in NSW, children of Jehovah's Witnesses were denied blood transfusions by their parents because of religious beliefs. The state introduced legislation and stepped in to mak

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There are multiple examples of these instances. As Nick said, the State has an obligation to all it's citizens. If parents are not acting responsibly and in the child's best interests then they are negating their responsibilities and thus the State needs to intervene. Unless, of course, the

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On 29/06/11 14:09, Rachel Polanskis wrote: My definition of "nanny state" is that it is a phrase used by those who would let a dog bite you repeatedly while ensuring it is always your right for it to do so. LOL Couldn't have said it better. Except when it's the States dog doing the biting...T

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This is established law. So was Apartheid, slavery, the criminality of Homosexuality and Inquisitions. > Marghanita da Cruz wrote: >>> The 'nanny state' and freedom of choice >> The

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Marghanita da Cruz wrote: This is offtopic. Please take it elsewhere like slug-chat. Erik -- -- Erik de Castro Lopo http://www.mega-nerd.com/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscripti