On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:36:14 +1000 (EST)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://www.swiss.ai.mit.edu/6805/articles/morris-worm.html
Everyone mentions the morris worm. It's a poor example from
an era where most UNIX boxes didn't even have a root passwd.
?!? Of course they had root passwords. THe
I would take this article with a really BIG grain of salt, considering
the fact that it is written by an apple employee. Talk about biased
journalism!
I see no reason why the os wouldn't be subject to a unix type virus.
-J.L.E Streit-
The Australian yesterday had a column from David Frith on
a bit UNIX experience can tell you), it's just too hard. Virus
writers just don't have the in depth knowledge to break
the security models imposed by UNIX based OS platforms. Of course,
I think you underestimate virus writers, if Linux becomes very popular
(like Windows popular) I can see
But how many of those are there? As the man said (and as anyone with
a bit UNIX experience can tell you), it's just too hard.
Im sorry but thats just stupid, its not too hard. There are probably
just far more bored kids with windows computers.
On Wed, 8 Oct 2003, Ben de Luca wrote:
But how many of those are there? As the man said (and as anyone with
a bit UNIX experience can tell you), it's just too hard.
Im sorry but thats just stupid, its not too hard. There are probably
just far more bored kids with windows computers.
That have access to pre-rolled virus and worm scripts. Add a poor
security model and you have an exploit. On UNIX, the same kids
usually have to work by first principles and they have neither
the will, the patience or the experience. Those that do
are already sysadmins and probably making
** Reply to note from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:29:41 +1000 (EST)
I don't think it's biased. It's based on fact. I admit there's a little
bit of marketing spin in it, but having used OSX for nearly a year
now full time it tallys with my experience.
Rachel,
how different is
On Wed, 8 Oct 2003, Voytek Eymont wrote:
how different is OS 9, is it still *nix based ?
(I just learned my Macs are Imacs using OS 9 )
OS9 and OSX are completely different to one another. OS9 is a custom
Apple designed OS written by Apple engineers in house while OSX
of course is based on a
If you are running MacOS9, you can forget virii to all intents ... they
basically don't exist.
The purist will tell you that there are some, but I've not seen a Mac
virus on one of my boxen for over ten years, and as I've said previously,
several of them are running on the net 24/7.
MacOS9
Ok, I will agree that writing virus's might be more simple and for that
we get many many many many more times as many virus's compared to other
OS's.
But when you look at the mode of entry of the most damaging virus's in
the last 18 months you see that a fair proportion of them are worms,
** Reply to note from Graham Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue, 7 Oct 2003 14:11:57 +1000
To mess up a Linux box, you need to work at it; to mess up your Windows box,
you just need to work on it.
not bad, though I like this one best that Tom sent me :
My wife, bless her cottin socks, is a Mac
fashionable GUIs! mutter mutter...
Cheers,
Jasper
-J.L.E Streit-
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Subject: [SLUG] ot: Mac OSX and virii in the open
Every so often, I have seen a number
: Wednesday, 8 October 2003 7:31 AM
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Subject: Re: [SLUG] ot: Mac OSX and virii in the open
** Reply to note from Graham Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue, 7 Oct 2003
14:11:57 +1000
To mess up a Linux box, you need to work at it; to mess up your
Windows box,
you just need to work
On Wed Oct 08, 2003 at 09:00:42 +1000, Visser, Martin (Sydney) wrote:
The Australian yesterday had a column from David Frith on just this
subject
http://australianit.news.com.au/articles/0,7204,7457276%5E15423%5E%5Enbv
%5E15309,00.html
A quote:
No-one, not even an administrator, is permitted to
Every so often, I have seen a number of Q here regarding Apple Mac hardware,
hence, I'm assuming there are some Mac hardware users here, are there any
Mac OS users though ? Reading through a Mac book I picked up today (of all
places, at everythinglinux) I now know that Mac OS is *nix based.
But,
On Tue Oct 07, 2003 at 12:18:41 +, Voytek Eymont wrote:
Every so often, I have seen a number of Q here regarding Apple Mac hardware,
hence, I'm assuming there are some Mac hardware users here, are there any
Mac OS users though ? Reading through a Mac book I picked up today (of all
places, at
I've been running MacOS 9* for may years and have yet to see a virus.
Several of my macs are exposed to the 'net (ie.. 24/7 connections). I
think it's a case of:
* Nobody can be bothered to write a virus for a mac
* Mac's mostly aren't listening anyway
* Mac's don't have the usual
I think the major reason for a lack of virii on mac's so far is the
over all small number of them.
I have seen Viri on os9 nothing on osx as yet.
On Tuesday, October 7, 2003, at 01:04 PM, David wrote:
I've been running MacOS 9* for may years and have yet to see a virus.
Several of my macs
On Tue, 7 Oct 2003, David wrote:
I've been running MacOS 9* for may years and have yet to see a virus.
Several of my macs are exposed to the 'net (ie.. 24/7 connections). I
think it's a case of:
* Nobody can be bothered to write a virus for a mac
* Mac's mostly aren't listening anyway
*
On Tue, 7 Oct 2003, Ben de Luca wrote:
I think the major reason for a lack of virii on mac's so far is the
over all small number of them.
I disagree. I've had this argument on another list and the pervasive
Windows argument doesn't wash. Writing exploits for Windows is
like shooting fish in
On Tue, 7 Oct 2003 13:29, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 7 Oct 2003, Ben de Luca wrote:
I think the major reason for a lack of virii on mac's so far is the
over all small number of them.
I disagree. I've had this argument on another list and the pervasive
Windows argument doesn't wash.
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